The Character Romance thread (Official)

Looking how Bethesda avoid successfully this drama over LIs and how MEA went I would say yes for the nex ME. DAI got it right, mostly, they need some work but it's alright for now.

Ps. one thing I dont like about Bethesda is that they dont have the balls to make lgbtq npcs, at least in Skyrim, I have yet to play Fallout 4. I think there's a gay character npc in Fallout 3. 

Do you mean characters that just happen to be LGBT or characters where thats the focus of their storyline? Because every marry-able NPC in Skyrim is bi. Same with romance and flirt characters in FO4. Or do you mean non romanceable characters who are in LGBT relationships already? I think theres one theoretically lesbian couple in the prologue of FO4, probably more that I'm forgetting.

The bolded part, yes! If you are roleplaying a straight character, there's no lgbtq representation at all in the game, besides the playersexual LIs, the characters are so little nuanced that I dont even bother to say that they are bisexual myself. I thought this happened with FO4 too, but I'm glad there's a lesbian couple, it's something! I hope Bethesda gets better with future games but I'm glad that I can self-insert myself as player.

I know about that and I was thinking about mod my game XD but I dont mind it too much to be honest, but yeah it's annoying

I thought he was too funky looking until I saw his thighs tbqh, eventually the rest (and the butt once I saw it) grew on me though. 

Geez. I go away to watch a two hour movie and the thread has moved nearly four pages.


From my brief time with FO4, it annoyed me quite a bit. I didn't try a mod, though. However, if the mod only affects the starting experience, it wouldn't really be enough for me. There are a lot of dialogue prompts about the missing kid, and it's the main plot of the game. Yes, you can ignore it and just do the whole sandbox thing, but these main quests are usually the ones that lead you to major new locations, like the first major city you go to.


This might be semantics on my part, but in the case of a continuing Inquisitor, Dorian wouldn't really be a love interest that you pursue, he would just be there as your partner or not from the previous game. He will essentially just be a gay NPC.

But I doubt that the Inquisitor will be the main protagonist of the next game with the option to pursue new romances. For one thing, how is the Inquisitor supposed to break up with all the people that aren't there? There are also two marriages. The Inquisitor is not Shepard in this regard.

I think the best that anyone who wants the Inquisitor back can expect is some sort of dual-protagonist scenario where we get to control the Inquisitor for a while, but the main PC will be a new person.

Do you know what couple is? Maybe I missed them because I only played the main story with Alduin and some sidequests, I remember a couple of argonians who gave me gay couple vibes, but I dont know if you are referring to them

Bioware it's better when it comes to representation, that's totally true. But as gay player sometimes it gets difficult, romance content cut that always happen to be gay content, or MEA trainwreck are some of the examples. I only played Skyrim, and I did it after knowing Jaal was straight, and it was cathartic for me romancing Vilkas and doing gay sex mods and werewolf fucking teehee 

That wouldn't be a best case scenario for me, because they would essentially be an NPC I have no agency over, like Hawke in DAI.

I gotta say, as much as I love Dorian and the romance, and would like to see them interacting together, I don't like the idea of Bioware putting words into my character's mouth, especially if they are concerning a relationship. If I had a Solas-mancer, I most definitely would not want that loss of agency in dealing with him.

I did a quick search with "alternate start" in the Nexus. There are several different options. Start Me Up apparently has a ton of dialogue edits throughout the game.

From the description: Full version: makes over 800 dialogue edits with voice and lip sync so you don't have to play as the "concerned parent" character, replacing those with voiced and lip-synced lines from the rest of the game (so it's the original voice actors). The dialogue lines vary depending on which start path you choose. There are two choices here - one for if you're using the popular Full Dialogue Interface mod, and another for if you are not.

So you might try that. I didn't bother with any major mods during my free trial. Had I actually bought the game and intended to play it (I just couldn't get into it), I might have gone with something like this.

Yeah I agree...I mean, I don't necessarily like the idea myself, I just can't imagine the Inquisitor being alive and not doing SOMETHING to deal with Solas. Unless they are sort of like the Hero of Ferelden in DAI where they are out in the field, kind of MIA...

They could always do what they did with Awakening, where the LI gives you a letter, or do a ME3 where they have small cameos. 

I'm fine with a dual-protagonist scenario. In fact I think that is among the best options available. The new PC focuses on the main plot of the game, probably the Qun-Tevinter War, while the Inquisitor focuses on Solas in the shadows as the two storylines intertwine with each other. 

I honestly wish they would stop tripping over themselves for an excuse on why we aren't playing the previous PC in a new game. The whole disappearing act is grating on me, especially since most people would understand that the former PCs are busy dealing with their own slice of the world and can't drop and run for this new crisis. More than one hero can exist at a time, since mostly, heroes are normal people who just happen to be where they need to be.

It would be a particularly annoying and low blow to set Solas up the way they did only to have some unknown handle him though. Whatever his purpose or outcome, I will cheerfully rage if Farmer Fucknowswho or Count Can'tbelievethisshit, our new PC, gets to be the ultimate character to interact with Solas. So maybe, this once, they'll make an exception about new PC every game? Dual-protag would be cool. I can go for that. Just... don't waste the story potential and tension between Inquisitor and Solas.