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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2017 20:33:07 GMT
WE HAD TO FIGHT BUT WE DID IT edit. Catilina NINJA'D ME I know it's not the same, but we had to fight for a Sara trailer. Would be nice if one day no fighting was needed for anything.
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Post by Tarkus on Jun 6, 2017 20:37:23 GMT
Congrats to the make Jaal Bi crowd.
I'm curious what differences there will be for Scott romancing Jaal.
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Post by JadePrince on Jun 6, 2017 20:39:34 GMT
I'm honestly shocked. I didn't really think it would happen, but I didn't completely give up hope. If you are happy about this and haven't done it yet, please tweet your thanks at the devs! We want them to know we appreciate them actually listening and doing something about it. Sure it should have been this way at launch, but fuck it, we showed them that the gays won't take being treated poorly laying down anymore. It's 2017 and we won't quietly and gratefully take our stale table scraps anymore. If they want to be known as the top LGBT-friendly game studio, they have to work for it now. They can't keep that title while doing the very least anymore. CONGRATULATIONS ALL MY FELLOW SALTY KIDS. And those still waiting on other improvements, I am crossing every finger I have for you. The fight never ends, but it's nice to have a victory now and then.
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Post by dhalion on Jun 6, 2017 20:40:56 GMT
WE HAD TO FIGHT BUT WE DID IT edit. Catilina NINJA'D ME i believe in the power of nick
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Post by fadburger on Jun 6, 2017 20:43:23 GMT
I do hope they plan on fixing Gil at some point, hopefully it didn't happen yet because they are going to have to do more to rework the Jill shit and give him more content, thus taking longer than restoring stuff or slapping Scott in for a BJ in the culmination scene. Right now the only reason I want to replay the game is to romance Gil, so I do really REALLY want them to do him justice. I won't hold my breath on this count, but it'd really be nice to see SOMETHING done - I know I've said for months now, Gil's story really does need to be rebuilt from the ground up to remove Jill's involvement from it, so it would take more time than patching Jaal's bisexuality back in... But I'm really reluctant to believe it will come. Like, BioWare's always been happy to make grand gestures, which this feels like - 'here, have what should have been there from day one, aren't we magnanimous in offering you this concession?' I've been burned enough that I can only view this with a cynical lens. If genuine fixes come to Gil's romance (and Reyes's as well), I'll be over the moon. But I was surprised enough that this worked, I really can't bring myself to believe that we'll see any improvement here, that we've used up the mojo. There was a dedicated hashtag for making Jaal bi. Nothing of the sort has emerged for Gil or Reyes, which means the public outcry reaching their ears is significantly less. Oh yeah by no means am I expecting anything, this is just my pie in the sky dreams for Gil because he (and his fans) deserve so much more! But I am also not going to hold my breath. I honestly wasn't expecting them to actually make Jaal bi despite the hashtag and outcry even.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Jun 6, 2017 20:48:32 GMT
WE HAD TO FIGHT BUT WE DID IT edit. Catilina NINJA'D ME i believe in the power of nick MAYBE I SHOULD PULLED A .... NICK AND POST DICKS FOR A PROPER CELEBRATION Mods...
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Post by raikas on Jun 6, 2017 20:48:35 GMT
Wow, I'd been assuming that anyone who thought they'd actually make Jaal an option for Scott was setting themselves up for disappointment. I'm impressed to have been wrong about that! The issue with this particular one is that m/m is the only one that can't be completed with the available options. If it was still three, but everyone only had two options, necessitating that everyone play a romance outside of their preference to obtain the achievement, that would be a different story, but that's not the case I'm aware, hence my reference to the issue as an inequitable distribution (which in any case has been remedied now). I agree that it was clearly not fair for people who do choose to play only that one character/romance gender setting, no argument. I was commenting on the notion that "not many gay players" are willing to play characters outside of that setting (the implication being that it would be true regardless of the in-game motivators). Most people play the game once, don't romance anyone and don't actually finish the game, but even aside from that decent numbers of the people who do replay do so across options. That doesn't change the distribution issue, but I think it's condescending to imagine that some majority of people who play gay characters aren't willing to explore the other options in the game at all.
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Post by caladrius on Jun 6, 2017 20:50:20 GMT
I can't believe Jaal is really bi now. I really didn't think they would do it, but I'm amazed they did and so happy. The biggest problem with m/m romances in ME:A, imo, was not having a squadmate romance. I didn't think anything else they could do could really fix that. I'm so glad they listened to us about this issue and I also think it's a great sign that they understood and pointed it out in the patch notes. Now I think we can be a lot more assured that it's unlikely Bioware will make that mistake again and we're unlikely to be shut out of squad LIs in the future. All in all, I think this is really an ideal outcome and I'm super happy with the decision.
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Post by dhalion on Jun 6, 2017 20:50:37 GMT
i believe in the power of nick MAYBE I SHOULD PULLED A .... NICK AND POST DICKS FOR A PROPER CELEBRATION Mods... OR ARE YOU
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Post by Lady Artifice on Jun 6, 2017 20:53:13 GMT
Holy crap, seriously?
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Post by fadburger on Jun 6, 2017 20:53:30 GMT
I can't believe Jaal is really bi now. I really didn't think they would do it, but I'm amazed they did and so happy. The biggest problem with m/m romances in ME:A, imo, was not having a squadmate romance. I didn't think anything else they could do could really fix that. I'm so glad they listened to us about this issue and I also think it's a great sign that they understood and pointed it out in the patch notes. Now I think we can be a lot more assured that it's unlikely Bioware will make that mistake again and we're unlikely to be shut out of squad LIs in the future. All in all, I think this is really an ideal outcome and I'm super happy with the decision. Yeah I am hoping for next time they will want to avoid this whole situation and include the m/m squaddie romance from the get-go, I'm assuming it'd be a lot smoother for everybody if it was implemented from the start.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2017 20:54:43 GMT
MAYBE I SHOULD PULLED A .... NICK AND POST DICKS FOR A PROPER CELEBRATION Mods... OR ARE YOU Haha, watching this gif and listening to Madonna's ''Bitch I'm Madonna'' is like.. fu***** awesome lol!
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Post by dhalion on Jun 6, 2017 20:56:51 GMT
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Jun 6, 2017 20:57:58 GMT
I WAS GOING TO MAKE ONE YOU NINJAD ME!!! BUT I'M IN THREE PLACES MAKING COMMENT ABOUT THIS AT THE SAME TIME OMG THE GIF IS PERFECT LETS TOAST FOR JAAL AND HIS PERFECT BUTT
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Post by kestrel on Jun 6, 2017 20:58:38 GMT
Maybe Bioware will finally give me a disabled protagonist one day now. ;_; I CAN DREAM.
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Post by fadburger on Jun 6, 2017 20:59:51 GMT
PS. for all you guys who haven't come back we are waiting with open arms in the Jaal thread lol
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Post by Steelcan on Jun 6, 2017 21:02:53 GMT
Maybe Bioware will finally give me a disabled protagonist one day now. ;_; I CAN DREAM. Disabled in what way?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2017 21:04:15 GMT
PS. for all you guys who haven't come back we are waiting with open arms in the Jaal thread lol Seconded!
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 6, 2017 21:05:29 GMT
Congratulations to all those this benefits.
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Post by Salty Drell on Jun 6, 2017 21:06:28 GMT
Maybe Bioware will finally give me a disabled protagonist one day now. ;_; I CAN DREAM. May I ask what kind of disabled?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2017 21:07:18 GMT
Maybe Bioware will finally give me a disabled protagonist one day now. ;_; I CAN DREAM. May I ask what kind of disabled? Unvoiced? Idk..
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Post by dhalion on Jun 6, 2017 21:07:21 GMT
PS. for all you guys who haven't come back we are waiting with open arms in the Jaal thread lol I never posted in there before release but i am ready to make my debut
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Jun 6, 2017 21:11:43 GMT
I CAN HAVE A FAMILY NOW!!!!!!!!! I WANT TO ADOPT ANGARA KITTIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by kestrel on Jun 6, 2017 21:14:31 GMT
Maybe Bioware will finally give me a disabled protagonist one day now. ;_; I CAN DREAM. May I ask what kind of disabled? Physically? Chronic illness preferably, but any kind of representation at this point would be so nice.
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