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Post by KingDarious BBB on Feb 17, 2017 17:47:37 GMT
I'm going to destroy this thread for a little while. Not NSFW but you probably shouldn't click if at work. Stop resisting people, Krogan's are the way of future! To all the people that want to romance Krogan. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
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Post by witchcocktor on Feb 17, 2017 18:06:08 GMT
I'm going to destroy this thread for a little while. Not NSFW but you probably shouldn't click if at work. Stop resisting people, Krogan's are the way of future! To all the people that want to romance Krogan. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. No.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 18:07:53 GMT
What's funny is a Krogan sure didn't feel disgusted at the idea of bedding Shepard in ME2
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Post by dalinne on Feb 17, 2017 18:08:59 GMT
I'm going to destroy this thread for a little while. Not NSFW but you probably shouldn't click if at work. Stop resisting people, Krogan's are the way of future! FOR GODSAKE HE IS YOUR TANK-BRED SON, SHEPARD!!!!!!!!!!! I'm OK with a Krogan LI. I didn't like Drack as a LI before when I feel he was basically a Krogan Grandpa, but now he has so Massani vibes... Well, it's official: anyone of the six confirmed squadmates would work for me. Bye
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Post by Ianamus on Feb 17, 2017 19:03:15 GMT
That comic looked cute so I tried to find the full thing. Well... I found it
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 19:05:26 GMT
That comic looked cute so I tried to find the full thing. Well... I found it Where?
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Post by Ianamus on Feb 17, 2017 19:08:27 GMT
That comic looked cute so I tried to find the full thing. Well... I found it Where? Google. And since those panels are the only ones that could be shared in polite company I'll leave it at that. I sort of wish I could un-find it, honestly.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Feb 17, 2017 19:21:46 GMT
I think a Krogan love interest could be cool. Don't know when they would go for it. When they do, I worry that they would make a romance like that a kind of... joke? I guess? Like they don't really take the character or the romance seriously.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 19:23:04 GMT
I quess it would be more like a fling or something...hopefully not as weird as with Javik.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 17, 2017 19:43:57 GMT
I quess it would be more like a fling or something...hopefully not as weird as with Javik. Pretty sure you can't get weirder than rape.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 19:52:11 GMT
I quess it would be more like a fling or something...hopefully not as weird as with Javik. Pretty sure you can't get weirder than rape. Felt more like drunk sex to me. I've got the impression neither Javik nor Femshepard knew what they were doing in that moment. So none of them raped the other one...They were just megahorny. But of course, it's still unpleasant for the gamers to be forced into a sex and drunk scene in a game where we should actually have more freedom about our decisions.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 20:01:24 GMT
Pretty sure you can't get weirder than rape. Felt more like drunk sex to me. I've got the impression neither Javik nor Femshepard knew what they were doing in that moment. So none of them raped the other one...They were just megahorny. But of course, it's still unpleasant for the gamers to be forced into a sex and drunk scene in a game where we should actually have more freedom about our decisions. Javik and Shep were 2 people who got drunk, acted on a moment of lust and one woke up to regret what she did. Anything else is reading into things that only exists in that person's head. But one other thing is, ME3 Citadel DLC was a parody. A joke. It was not really canon. Half the stuff in it was things fans had talked about that they added to the game.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 17, 2017 20:02:02 GMT
Pretty sure you can't get weirder than rape. Felt more like drunk sex to me. I've got the impression neither Javik nor Femshepard knew what they were doing in that moment. So none of them raped the other one...They were just megahorny. But of course, it's still unpleasant for the gamers to be forced into a sex and drunk scene in a game where we should actually have more freedom about our decisions. I never consented, Shepard was never shown to consent, and my Shepard was in a relationship with Kelly yet that scene still triggered. That's rape to me. Javik and Shep were 2 people who got drunk, acted on a moment of lust and one woke up to regret what she did. Anything else is reading into things that only exists in that person's head. But one other thing is, ME3 Citadel DLC was a parody. A joke. It was not really canon. Half the stuff in it was things fans had talked about that they added to the game. Oh yeah, because rape is super funny.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 20:04:46 GMT
Felt more like drunk sex to me. I've got the impression neither Javik nor Femshepard knew what they were doing in that moment. So none of them raped the other one...They were just megahorny. But of course, it's still unpleasant for the gamers to be forced into a sex and drunk scene in a game where we should actually have more freedom about our decisions. I never consented, Shepard was never shown to consent, and my Shepard was in a relationship with Kelly yet that scene still triggered. That's rape to me. It's not supposed to trigger if you are in a locked in relationship. Kelly didn't count for some reason. My Shep lost Thane and Javik never touched her. What you call "rape" is a bug.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 17, 2017 20:06:54 GMT
I never consented, Shepard was never shown to consent, and my Shepard was in a relationship with Kelly yet that scene still triggered. That's rape to me. It's not supposed to trigger if you are in a locked in relationship. Kelly didn't count for some reason. My Shep lost Thane and Javik never touched her. So only players like me get to enjoy being raped. Figures it would only happen to the one romance where sex isn't necessarily involved. Thanks, Bioware. You really shouldn't have. Seriously.
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Post by Catilina on Feb 17, 2017 20:07:16 GMT
I'm going to destroy this thread for a little while. Not NSFW but you probably shouldn't click if at work. Stop resisting people, Krogan's are the way of future! This is ... well ... cute? But probably I need to be more open minded for a hot krogan romance.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 20:08:26 GMT
It's not supposed to trigger if you are in a locked in relationship. Kelly didn't count for some reason. My Shep lost Thane and Javik never touched her. So only players like me get to enjoy being raped. Figures it would only happen to the one romance where sex isn't necessarily involved. Thanks, Bioware. You really shouldn't have. Seriously. It's a very bad bug or Kelly is for some reason not considered a locked in romance. I'm not sure. Actually come to think of it Kelly was really buggy in my ME3 game.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 20:09:04 GMT
Felt more like drunk sex to me. I've got the impression neither Javik nor Femshepard knew what they were doing in that moment. So none of them raped the other one...They were just megahorny. But of course, it's still unpleasant for the gamers to be forced into a sex and drunk scene in a game where we should actually have more freedom about our decisions. I never consented, Shepard was never shown to consent, and my Shepard was in a relationship with Kelly yet that scene still triggered. That's rape to me. James and Shepard was more what you are trying to defend the Javik thing as. Javik and Shep were 2 people who got drunk, acted on a moment of lust and one woke up to regret what she did. Anything else is reading into things that only exists in that person's head. But one other thing is, ME3 Citadel DLC was a parody. A joke. It was not really canon. Half the stuff in it was things fans had talked about that they added to the game. Oh yeah, because rape is super funny. It wasn't intended as rape. It's just an example of a scene where Shepards behaviour was predefined by Bioware with no choice for the gamer to act different. I'm pretty sure, if you ask Bioware if this scene can be interpreted as rape they would answer you with: "NO!" It's no rape scene, I'm pretty sure, it's not intended as one and shouldn't be interpreted as that. It's just a bad example of how to remove the gamers freedom of decision. It was bad, yes...but it's no rape...surely not...
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Post by feainn on Feb 17, 2017 20:10:22 GMT
Well this thread took a weird turn.
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Post by PhatePhoenix on Feb 17, 2017 20:12:25 GMT
That Javik thing is just. [ SHUDDERS] James, too. Gosh, what terrible ideas both those things were. Dies it happen with Dudeshep, or is Femshep the only lucky participant? As the date approaches, I find myself getting more nervous about finding the asexual-compatible LI's in this game. Since romance arcs don't open with "we'll definitely being having sex in this one", I don't want to blunder my way into a romance with a mandatory sex scene. When does the Early Access start? Mid-march??? Come on, data mining! ( Or Bioware could have mercy and tell me one--just one--so I have a safe choice right from the start.)
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Post by theratpack55 on Feb 17, 2017 20:13:53 GMT
Yeah I think calling it rape is a bit much. BW shouldn't have made it trigger without any input from the player but that's a meta problem. There is no indication in the game's story that Shepard was unwilling at the time it happened. (Of course, I'm slightly biased cause I always had the hots for Javik so I was pretty happy even that tiny option to act on it existed... )
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Post by PhatePhoenix on Feb 17, 2017 20:13:56 GMT
I never consented, Shepard was never shown to consent, and my Shepard was in a relationship with Kelly yet that scene still triggered. That's rape to me. James and Shepard was more what you are trying to defend the Javik thing as. Oh yeah, because rape is super funny. It wasn't intended as rape. It's just an example of a scene where Shepards behaviour was predefined by Bioware with no choice for the gamer to act different. I'm pretty sure, if you ask Bioware if this scene can be interpreted as rape they would answer you with: "NO!" It's no rape scene, I'm pretty sure, it's not intended as one and shouldn't be interpreted as that. It's just a bad example of how to remove the gamers freedom of decision. It was bad, yes...but it's no rape...surely not... I'd call it rape if it happened to my asexual, no-romance Shepard. She would not have consented. She would not have been interested. It would have been rape.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 20:17:39 GMT
It wasn't intended as rape. It's just an example of a scene where Shepards behaviour was predefined by Bioware with no choice for the gamer to act different. I'm pretty sure, if you ask Bioware if this scene can be interpreted as rape they would answer you with: "NO!" It's no rape scene, I'm pretty sure, it's not intended as one and shouldn't be interpreted as that. It's just a bad example of how to remove the gamers freedom of decision. It was bad, yes...but it's no rape...surely not... I'd call it rape if it happened to my asexual, no-romance Shepard. She would not have consented. She would not have been interested. It would have been rape. But that's your subjective impression because "you" played as an asexual Shepard...the truth is however, that Bioware put away your freedom of decision in this certain scene...in this scene shepards behaviour was predefined by Bioware. She wasn't supposed to be raped by Javik... I don't say it's good to put away our choice... but it's still NO rape. It was never intended as a rape scene.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 20:18:14 GMT
Javik and Female Shepard only are supposed to sleep together if Shepard is single. It's one of those typical (and irl) moments where the drink overtook all thoughts and common sense and they just went at it. This is in every comedy I ever saw. It was so common even back in the 90's.
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Post by theratpack55 on Feb 17, 2017 20:21:43 GMT
It wasn't intended as rape. It's just an example of a scene where Shepards behaviour was predefined by Bioware with no choice for the gamer to act different. I'm pretty sure, if you ask Bioware if this scene can be interpreted as rape they would answer you with: "NO!" It's no rape scene, I'm pretty sure, it's not intended as one and shouldn't be interpreted as that. It's just a bad example of how to remove the gamers freedom of decision. It was bad, yes...but it's no rape...surely not... I'd call it rape if it happened to my asexual, no-romance Shepard. She would not have consented. She would not have been interested. It would have been rape. My tough renegade Shepard would not have given a pyjak's ass about the prologue kid, yet BW Shepard chased him through a forest in her anguish-filled dreams. We have to accept that BW Shepard isn't necessarily exactly like we imagine our character in our heads all the time, and BW Shepard decided that a drunken romp with a Prothean was a fun idea at the time.
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