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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 13:04:12 GMT
So I found ANOTHER vid of Scott meeting Jaal and this one showed not only his initial meeting and first conversation on the Tempest, but also the follow up conversation as well. And you STILL don't get a chance to flirt with him. They weren't kidding when they said he was difficult to romance. All of the other LI's give you a chance to flirt in the first few conversations. But not Jaal. Fucking Jaal. Is this the same for Sara?? Because if Sara does have the option to flirt...well, there's our answer I believe so, I remember I read that one of the previewers wanted to flirt with Jaal using Sara and said that he was surprised he could not, and even said that he is wary hard to get or he is male only option, but we know that's not the case so I think he is just hard to get lol
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Post by flog61 on Mar 19, 2017 13:05:43 GMT
Is this the same for Sara?? Because if Sara does have the option to flirt...well, there's our answer I believe so, I remember I read that one of the previewers wanted to flirt with Jaal using Sara and said that he was surprised he could not, and even said that he is wary hard to get or he is male only option, but we know that's not the case so I think he is just hard to get lol That's a relief hah ashesborn you found the voice files for Scott flirting with Jaal right? Just not the voice for the romance scenes? Or is there nothing at all
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 13:05:58 GMT
ash wait that makes no sense. Ryder would be flirting first to make Jaal approach him. I can't believe Jaal would just start flirting if he's so hard to romance. That's why I said "emotional button looks just like flirt button". Remember "Anders forced me to gay" and DA2 had completely different buttons for everything. Oh geez... A heart in the head and a large heart are hopefully different enough for people. It's pretty obvious to me at least.
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Post by ash on Mar 19, 2017 13:07:27 GMT
That's why I said "emotional button looks just like flirt button". Remember "Anders forced me to gay" and DA2 had completely different buttons for everything. Oh geez... A heart in the head and a large heart are hopefully different enough for people. It's pretty obvious to me at least. Blue thingie with leaves on if differs from huge red heart too...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 13:08:06 GMT
Oh geez... A heart in the head and a large heart are hopefully different enough for people. It's pretty obvious to me at least. Blue thingie with leaves on if differs from huge red heart too... Haha no kidding! DAO was the tricky one!
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Post by eternalgoddess on Mar 19, 2017 13:08:13 GMT
What about Gil + Reyes + Scott? That would be hot. Nothing about that in files. I was able to find some strange code for Peebee+Vetra+Sara, but again - not sure if it works. Also looks like love triangles are only possible within your squad and even with bi Jaal Liam is still straight, so no love triangle for gay Scott. So your telling me there's still a chance for a lesbian triangle?
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Post by Salty Drell on Mar 19, 2017 13:09:32 GMT
I believe so, I remember I read that one of the previewers wanted to flirt with Jaal using Sara and said that he was surprised he could not, and even said that he is wary hard to get or he is male only option, but we know that's not the case so I think he is just hard to get lol That's a relief hah ashesborn you found the voice files for Scott flirting with Jaal right? Just not the voice for the romance scenes? Or is there nothing at all It's very difficult to locate those voice files among thousands of others, we probably won't find them for a while, but that doesn't mean they're not there.
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Post by ash on Mar 19, 2017 13:10:10 GMT
ashesborn you found the voice files for Scott flirting with Jaal right? Just not the voice for the romance scenes? Or is there nothing at all I told that like 9 times already. I'm not digging through audio or subtitles data. All audoextraction methods for frostbite lose data in process and subs are encrypted differently from DA:I. I'm not a freaking hacker, I'm a game developer who isn't even using frostbite at work. I can only understand easy code data that looks not so different from any code.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 13:10:16 GMT
What about Gil + Reyes + Scott? That would be hot. Nothing about that in files. I was able to find some strange code for Peebee+Vetra+Sara, but again - not sure if it works. Also looks like love triangles are only possible within your squad and even with bi Jaal Liam is still straight, so no love triangle for gay Scott. I wonder who BioFan's triangle was then.
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Post by witchcocktor on Mar 19, 2017 13:11:05 GMT
So I found ANOTHER vid of Scott meeting Jaal and this one showed not only his initial meeting and first conversation on the Tempest, but also the follow up conversation as well. And you STILL don't get a chance to flirt with him. They weren't kidding when they said he was difficult to romance. All of the other LI's give you a chance to flirt in the first few conversations. But not Jaal. Fucking Jaal. Is this the same for Sara?? Because if Sara does have the option to flirt...well, there's our answer Not really. Every other romanceable character in the game, you have the flirt option, even if they reject you. It would be completely unheard of if Jaal wouldn't even have a flirt option with male Ryder, even if he is '' straight. '' Could easily be a trust/loyalty thing, or Jaal is just that hard to get.
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Post by Panda on Mar 19, 2017 13:11:12 GMT
Nope. It clearly has a prerequisite for Ryder rejecting Jaal, everybody saw that too. Nothing about pathfinder being male of female. So if you never flirt with Jaal he will never end up with PB? That seems weird He needs rebound to treat his broken heart.
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Post by flog61 on Mar 19, 2017 13:12:30 GMT
ashesborn you found the voice files for Scott flirting with Jaal right? Just not the voice for the romance scenes? Or is there nothing at all I told that like 9 times already. I'm not digging through audio or subtitles data. All audoextraction methods for frostbite lose data in process and subs are encrypted differently from DA:I. I'm not a freaking hacker, I'm a game developer who isn't even using frostbite at work. I can only understand easy code data that looks not so different from any code. Sorry I was just checking what you had said I wasn't asking you to do even more, we're all really appreciative of what you've done! I just couldn't remember if you've found the flirt voice lines or not that is all
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 13:12:44 GMT
Is this the same for Sara?? Because if Sara does have the option to flirt...well, there's our answer Not really. Every other romanceable character in the game, you have the flirt option, even if they reject you. It would be completely unheard of if Jaal wouldn't even have a flirt option with male Ryder, even if he is '' straight. '' Could easily be a trust/loyalty thing, or Jaal is just that hard to get. ashesborn explained it: "Yep. You can start to attempt to flirt only at r2-3 stage and to lock romance at 4-5, whatever this can mean. While others allow initial flirting at r0-1 and romance locking at 3."
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Post by palinopsia on Mar 19, 2017 13:13:24 GMT
Is this the same for Sara?? Because if Sara does have the option to flirt...well, there's our answer Not really. Every other romanceable character in the game, you have the flirt option, even if they reject you. It would be completely unheard of if Jaal wouldn't even have a flirt option with male Ryder, even if he is '' straight. ''Could easily be a trust/loyalty thing, or Jaal is just that hard to get. I thought male inquisitor couldn't even flirt with Solas? I might be wrong though
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 13:13:59 GMT
Not really. Every other romanceable character in the game, you have the flirt option, even if they reject you. It would be completely unheard of if Jaal wouldn't even have a flirt option with male Ryder, even if he is '' straight. ''Could easily be a trust/loyalty thing, or Jaal is just that hard to get. I thought male inquisitor couldn't even flirt with Solas? I might be wrong though You can flirt with everyone once, and those who reject you can't flirt with again.
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Post by ash on Mar 19, 2017 13:14:54 GMT
Nothing about that in files. I was able to find some strange code for Peebee+Vetra+Sara, but again - not sure if it works. Also looks like love triangles are only possible within your squad and even with bi Jaal Liam is still straight, so no love triangle for gay Scott. I wonder who BioFan's triangle was then. Have no idea. Peebee also has bits of code pretty close to Suvi's romance, but it is code for Peebee's final romance scene and... don't know. Doesn't look like it includes Suvi.
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Post by flog61 on Mar 19, 2017 13:15:09 GMT
I thought male inquisitor couldn't even flirt with Solas? I might be wrong though You can flirt with everyone once, and those who reject you can't flirt with again. Are you talking about DA:I or ME:A?
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Post by witchcocktor on Mar 19, 2017 13:15:10 GMT
Not really. Every other romanceable character in the game, you have the flirt option, even if they reject you. It would be completely unheard of if Jaal wouldn't even have a flirt option with male Ryder, even if he is '' straight. ''Could easily be a trust/loyalty thing, or Jaal is just that hard to get. I thought male inquisitor couldn't even flirt with Solas? I might be wrong though This is not DA:I, though. DA:I only had one guy reject a mlm Inquisitor, and that was Cullen, who was supposed to be bi to begin with. This is MEA, you can flirt with all of the romanceable companions and get shut down. Why would it be ANY DIFFERENT for Jaal?????
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 13:15:20 GMT
Are there any videos of fRyder meeting Jaal and talking to him on the Tempest? If she doesn't get any flirt options either then I think I would be a little relieved at least:-/ Is this the same for Sara?? Because if Sara does have the option to flirt...well, there's our answer I can't find any vids of Sara with full game playthroughs to confirm. But I was thinking the same thing. There are only about a half dozen youtubers with full game playthrough vids and most of them are playing as Scott. And many of them haven't gotten to Jaal yet. So the number is low. Only the 2 that I talked about so far. Yep. You can start to attempt to flirt only at r2-3 stage and to lock romance at 4-5, whatever this can mean. While others allow initial flirting at r0-1 and romance locking at 3. Buuut Vetra is the same about locking romance from what it looks like. Just has earlier flirts. Edit: to clear something up, I'm only talking about flirts that somehow are recognized by game. Vetra's first isn't considered "gamechanger" too. That would jive with something that he says in the second conversation on the Tempest. Something like, "Why should we get to know each other?" And then Scott's like, "Uh, I'll go first. I'm from Earth, the 3rd planet in the Sol System." And Jaal's like, "Thanks......." And when Scott presses him to share about himself, he's like, "We can talk later when we know each other better." So the YouTube method won't help us unless one of them progresses far enough to flirt with Jaal and then posts it today. I'll keep my eye on those just to be safe.
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Post by Salty Drell on Mar 19, 2017 13:15:34 GMT
Not really. Every other romanceable character in the game, you have the flirt option, even if they reject you. It would be completely unheard of if Jaal wouldn't even have a flirt option with male Ryder, even if he is '' straight. '' Could easily be a trust/loyalty thing, or Jaal is just that hard to get. ashesborn explained it: "Yep. You can start to attempt to flirt only at r2-3 stage and to lock romance at 4-5, whatever this can mean. While others allow initial flirting at r0-1 and romance locking at 3." And that fits very well with the "Jaal is hard to romance" info we got. The info we have does seem to be fitting together.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 13:15:39 GMT
You can flirt with everyone once, and those who reject you can't flirt with again. Are you talking about DA:I or ME:A? MEA.
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Post by palinopsia on Mar 19, 2017 13:18:33 GMT
I thought male inquisitor couldn't even flirt with Solas? I might be wrong though This is not DA:I, though. DA:I only had one guy reject a mlm Inquisitor, and that was Cullen, who was supposed to be bi to begin with. This is MEA, you can flirt with all of the romanceable companions and get shut down. Why would it be ANY DIFFERENT for Jaal????? I just meant, it wouldn't be completely unheard of. But yeah I also don't think it would be any different for Jaal, so I agree
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Post by isaidlunch on Mar 19, 2017 13:21:52 GMT
I don't know why but I'm really looking forward to destroying Jaal's heart. I may keep the romance up until the last game in the Ryder saga, just to make the breakup even more delicious.
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Post by Panda on Mar 19, 2017 13:22:34 GMT
I'm pretty convinced myself that Jaal is bi- to refer earlier discussion. It's that there is this small doubt of "maybe not" that keeps coming up Thank god it won't take long anymore. In terms of Jaal being difficult to romance yelp. I tend to fuck romances up even easier one's. Thane, Sebastian, yup can't make it happen. I think I need to wait for some kind of romance guide with Jaal with breaking points XD
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Post by ash on Mar 19, 2017 13:23:32 GMT
I don't know why but I'm really looking forward to destroying Jaal's heart. I may keep the romance up until the last game in the Ryder saga, just to make the breakup even more delicious. I'm looking forward to becoming best friends with Archon if Jaal's straight. Maybe Archon will love me.
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