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Post by caladrius on Mar 19, 2017 15:26:33 GMT
Could be an approval-locked option that isn't related to gender. It could be locked to some quest choice or an earlier dialogue option. It's not got the same icon as other romance dialogue.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 15:27:19 GMT
I wish that people weren't so emotionally invested in this because it causes tensions to get high around all of the uncertainty. It's a shame because this is a fun little mystery for those of us who aren't hoping to romance Jaal, but it's really important for the Jaal-mancers. I don't want to come across as callous because I'm digging around for confirmation. But I also really love speculation and trying to piece together the puzzle. I know I am fine to romance Jaal, but my friends here aren't sure they can, so it's very stressing, but you're right, and I love trying to solve puzzles and mysteries.
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Post by palinopsia on Mar 19, 2017 15:28:03 GMT
The extra dialogue is a little concerning. I think there are several variables that we have to consider with it. - It's not a romance marked dialogue piece, but is it still linked to the romance? - Is it one of the "sibling differences" only? - Is it because the Scott was in a romance and the Sara wasn't? - Is it related to the r1-r7 system that was mentioned, based on choices they made before that scene? - Is Jaal a bi romance, but Sara has more content? Jaal is just.. really confusing. Yeah. I hate it. Why doesn't Scott have it? I've seen a playthrough with single Scott and he didn't have that option. But mayyybe it has something to do with previous dialogue choices. Have to compare those two vids to find out...Doubt it would help, too many variables
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Post by caladrius on Mar 19, 2017 15:28:57 GMT
Honestly, for me it's not even just about Jaal. It's about how shockingly they shorted m/m players if he's not an option. If Liam was an option it would be different, but to say I'll be disappointed in them if they backslid on us since ME3 is an understatement.
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Post by Catilina on Mar 19, 2017 15:30:24 GMT
Honestly, for me it's not even just about Jaal. It's about how shockingly they shorted m/m players if he's not an option. If Liam was an option it would be different, but to say I'll be disappointed in them if they backslid on us since ME3 is an understatement. I have same feeling.
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Post by palinopsia on Mar 19, 2017 15:31:41 GMT
Honestly, for me it's not even just about Jaal. It's about how shockingly they shorted m/m players if he's not an option. If Liam was an option it would be different, but to say I'll be disappointed in them if they backslid on us since ME3 is an understatement. Yep, I keep thinking the same thing, especially when I start feeling really pessimistic about Jaal being bi. And then I remember Aaryn saying "we're very happy with the specifics" (referring to romance options) and I get really angry
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Post by zeowik on Mar 19, 2017 15:32:00 GMT
I wish that people weren't so emotionally invested in this because it causes tensions to get high around all of the uncertainty. It's a shame because this is a fun little mystery for those of us who aren't hoping to romance Jaal, but it's really important for the Jaal-mancers. I don't want to come across as callous because I'm digging around for confirmation. But I also really love speculation and trying to piece together the puzzle. I 100% blame the dev teasing for this. I suspect it made things much worse.
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Post by caladrius on Mar 19, 2017 15:33:55 GMT
Honestly, for me it's not even just about Jaal. It's about how shockingly they shorted m/m players if he's not an option. If Liam was an option it would be different, but to say I'll be disappointed in them if they backslid on us since ME3 is an understatement. Yep, I keep thinking the same thing, especially when I start feeling really pessimistic about Jaal being bi. And then I remember Aaryn saying "we're very happy with the specifics" (referring to romance options) and I get really angry I'm trying not to get salty about it, because there's still a lot of evidence that he's bi and I don't want to be dramatic for no reason. It is pretty shitty that the marketing is leaving gay men, and just us- let's be honest, to drift in the wind about whether or not we're getting anywhere near a comparable amount of content to everyone else.
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Post by witchcocktor on Mar 19, 2017 15:34:00 GMT
Yeah, if Jaal isn't bi they just fukt it up for the gay players. But, we got the bi Jaal codes, and the '' I love you too, Jaal '' Scott voice file, we can just send those to the devs and ask for a goddamn explanation, if the worst comes to worst.
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Post by Reznore on Mar 19, 2017 15:34:51 GMT
It could be locked to some quest choice or an earlier dialogue option. It's not got the same icon as other romance dialogue. In game you get psychological profile for Ryder, I know I had a Ryder full of "empathy " ...I have no idea if it changes anything in game though. Perhaps it's like DA2 and you get the odd option here and there depending on your personality profile ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 15:35:57 GMT
Yep. You can start to attempt to flirt only at r2-3 stage and to lock romance at 4-5, whatever this can mean. While others allow initial flirting at r0-1 and romance locking at 3. Buuut Vetra is the same about locking romance from what it looks like. Just has earlier flirts. Edit: to clear something up, I'm only talking about flirts that somehow are recognized by game. Vetra's first isn't considered "gamechanger" too. I was watching Ashe play and if you choose to stay and do certain things to help the Angara, Jaal seems to think highly of you. Maybe that's part of it. When we first arrive to Aya and before return to Tempest? (I saw someone getting Avela's quest in that time)
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Post by caladrius on Mar 19, 2017 15:36:10 GMT
It could be locked to some quest choice or an earlier dialogue option. It's not got the same icon as other romance dialogue. In game you get psychological profile for Ryder, I know I had a Ryder full of "empathy " ...I have no idea if it changes anything in game though. Perhaps it's like DA2 and you get the odd option here and there depending on your personality profile ? This is definitely an interesting point and could possibly add another entire point to my list of possible confusing reasons for this. lol
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Post by rebelrebel on Mar 19, 2017 15:36:54 GMT
It could be locked to some quest choice or an earlier dialogue option. It's not got the same icon as other romance dialogue. In game you get psychological profile for Ryder, I know I had a Ryder full of "empathy " ...I have no idea if it changes anything in game though. Perhaps it's like DA2 and you get the odd option here and there depending on your personality profile ? Seems plausible. Unfortunately can't find any Sara vids leading up to this particular dialogue, but I remember Scott being kinda evasive with Jaal once in the walkthrough that I've seen. Grrrr, I want this option with Scott!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 15:38:35 GMT
I was watching Ashe play and if you choose to stay and do certain things to help the Angara, Jaal seems to think highly of you. Maybe that's part of it. When we first arrive to Aya and before return to Tempest? (I saw someone getting Avela's quest in that time) She was on Voeld I think.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 15:38:52 GMT
I wish that people weren't so emotionally invested in this because it causes tensions to get high around all of the uncertainty. It's a shame because this is a fun little mystery for those of us who aren't hoping to romance Jaal, but it's really important for the Jaal-mancers. I don't want to come across as callous because I'm digging around for confirmation. But I also really love speculation and trying to piece together the puzzle. I 100% blame the dev teasing for this. I suspect it made things much worse. Yeah, all of the "good bangin" shit combined with the "Oops, sorry, we aren't talking about romances" over and over about m/m romances (after confirming multiple Straight Scott romances) was a major ball drop. It was clunky and poorly thought out at best. It was deliberate handwaving at worst.
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Post by Reznore on Mar 19, 2017 15:38:59 GMT
This is definitely an interesting point and could possibly add another entire point to my list of possible confusing reasons for this. lol Perhaps this is what they mean by JAal is hard to romance ? If say you're logical and professional Ryder , understanding takes longer to build with Angara being a bit on the emotional side?
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Post by caladrius on Mar 19, 2017 15:42:44 GMT
This is definitely an interesting point and could possibly add another entire point to my list of possible confusing reasons for this. lol Perhaps this is what they mean by JAal is hard to romance ? If say you're logical and professional Ryder , understanding takes longer to build with Angara being a bit on the emotional side? I'm not sure if there was anything like that in the code to imply it, but it would definitely be an interesting choice narratively.
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Post by vertigomez on Mar 19, 2017 15:44:36 GMT
Suvi flirt vid below the cut. Wanted to mention something I've liked about ME:A character interactions so far. I like how self-aware the awkwardness is. Like... Ryder is not an automaton nor a super suave sex machine. She's a 22-year-old with a crush. I love it. Like, Shep got awkward AF at times but the game tried to tell you s/he was being smooth... when oftentimes s/he just came off as a lawsuit waiting to happen. One of the only times I remember Shep being awkward and the game ACKNOWLEDGING it as awkward was in the Citadel DLC, when Garrus drags a romanced Shepard out on the dance floor and she sort of stumbles and puts up a half-hearted protest. So I'm just saying I am 100% on board with dorky, romantically-challenged Ryder.
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Post by byne on Mar 19, 2017 15:48:26 GMT
Suvi flirt vid below the cut. Wanted to mention something I've liked about ME:A character interactions so far. I like how self-aware the awkwardness is. Like... Ryder is not an automaton nor a super suave sex machine. She's a 22-year-old with a crush. I love it. Like, Shep got awkward AF at times but the game tried to tell you s/he was being smooth... when oftentimes s/he just came off as a lawsuit waiting to happen. One of the only times I remember Shep being awkward and the game ACKNOWLEDGING it as awkward was in the Citadel DLC, when Garrus drags a romanced Shepard out on the dance floor and she sort of stumbles and puts up a half-hearted protest. So I'm just saying I am 100% on board with dorky, romantically-challenged Ryder. I keep seeing people talking shit about this scene, but I thought it was fuckin adorable. Absolutely no taste, some people.
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Post by Wynne on Mar 19, 2017 15:50:01 GMT
It is not the job of paying customers to "be happy with what they're given."
If they aren't happy, they may take their dollars elsewhere.
If they take their dollars elsewhere, that diminishes Bioware's profits, which in turn diminishes their game-making ability.
It's the job of those providing the content to make players happy to the best of their ability, and if there are easy and relatively inexpensive ways for them to make more of us happy, then it's in their best interest and everyone's interest to provide those things.
That's the way it works. And even beyond simple human compassion for players not of my gender or orientation or race or what-have-you, I like having more options for myself and more money for Bioware.
Enlightened self-interest. Mr. "Cancerous" should look it the fuck up.
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Post by TheGutsyDog on Mar 19, 2017 15:50:06 GMT
Suvi flirt vid below the cut. Wanted to mention something I've liked about ME:A character interactions so far. I like how self-aware the awkwardness is. Like... Ryder is not an automaton nor a super suave sex machine. She's a 22-year-old with a crush. I love it. Like, Shep got awkward AF at times but the game tried to tell you s/he was being smooth... when oftentimes s/he just came off as a lawsuit waiting to happen. One of the only times I remember Shep being awkward and the game ACKNOWLEDGING it as awkward was in the Citadel DLC, when Garrus drags a romanced Shepard out on the dance floor and she sort of stumbles and puts up a half-hearted protest. So I'm just saying I am 100% on board with dorky, romantically-challenged Ryder. Oh my gosh, I just laughed. So hard. That was so cute.
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Post by palinopsia on Mar 19, 2017 15:51:32 GMT
Yeah, if Jaal isn't bi they just fukt it up for the gay players. But, we got the bi Jaal codes, and the '' I love you too, Jaal '' Scott voice file, we can just send those to the devs and ask for a goddamn explanation, if the worst comes to worst. "it's a platonic I love you, no homo man" would probably be their response. (or they would admit to making Jaal bi and then straight, which... lmao) I was actually trying to convince myself that line could just be platonic, but I literally couldn't. I kept listening to it and like... there's no way. That's full homo, man
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Post by ash on Mar 19, 2017 15:52:33 GMT
Soo, anybody knows anything about possibility of sleeping for 23 hours without dying/having alcohol poisoning? I could use some methods. Then I will wake up in a beautiful world where I can go and check on Jaal myself. So far my Ryder has that "emotional and shit" profile, so I'll check if this is the reason.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 15:52:47 GMT
Suvi flirt vid below the cut. Wanted to mention something I've liked about ME:A character interactions so far. I like how self-aware the awkwardness is. Like... Ryder is not an automaton nor a super suave sex machine. She's a 22-year-old with a crush. I love it. Like, Shep got awkward AF at times but the game tried to tell you s/he was being smooth... when oftentimes s/he just came off as a lawsuit waiting to happen. One of the only times I remember Shep being awkward and the game ACKNOWLEDGING it as awkward was in the Citadel DLC, when Garrus drags a romanced Shepard out on the dance floor and she sort of stumbles and puts up a half-hearted protest. So I'm just saying I am 100% on board with dorky, romantically-challenged Ryder. That's pretty adorkable, actually. Not normally my speed, but it works for them. And LOL at Kallo!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 15:57:29 GMT
Suvi flirt vid below the cut. Wanted to mention something I've liked about ME:A character interactions so far. I like how self-aware the awkwardness is. Like... Ryder is not an automaton nor a super suave sex machine. She's a 22-year-old with a crush. I love it. Like, Shep got awkward AF at times but the game tried to tell you s/he was being smooth... when oftentimes s/he just came off as a lawsuit waiting to happen. One of the only times I remember Shep being awkward and the game ACKNOWLEDGING it as awkward was in the Citadel DLC, when Garrus drags a romanced Shepard out on the dance floor and she sort of stumbles and puts up a half-hearted protest. So I'm just saying I am 100% on board with dorky, romantically-challenged Ryder. I love Sara's flirting. She seems to get really silly around LI's! And Kallo was the best in that scene!
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