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Post by flog61 on Mar 19, 2017 16:58:14 GMT
he's followed up with this when I was suggesting gay men might only have one option Well I guess we'll discuss it when the game drops lololol. I'm preparing myself to go to war in the Angry Gay Twitter Brigade if we only get Gil
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Post by sageoflife on Mar 19, 2017 16:58:52 GMT
You guys do realize that the voice actors are under an NDA, right?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 16:58:55 GMT
How about we all leave Tom alone since he will not breach his NDA for this stuff? NDA is not because they choose to say nothing, it's because they can't!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 16:59:34 GMT
Jesus Christ, whole game is soon on YouTube (half of it is already there) because some people are already plying it. Embargo is ending. Why the hell they just can't spill the beans, and I mean EA/marketing with this? It is totally ludicrous to say "you have to play and see" when we can actually find out about it the second someone has uploaded enough of the game to YouTube, or written a blog post about it. This marketing is just as much in denial as the devs, it seems. All this is getting such epic levels of ridiculousness.
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Post by flog61 on Mar 19, 2017 16:59:44 GMT
You guys do realize that the voice actors are under an NDA, right? Wouldn't stop him giving hints as he has for other aspects of the game
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Post by caladrius on Mar 19, 2017 17:00:28 GMT
If Reyes doesn't fill the romance achievement, he might not count. Nobody has found any evidence he's a "full" romance in the code. Otherwise, it might be him instead of Jaal for Scott. IMO, Keri is nex_doc, but some people still don't believe she is. It's true, though, if they don't count Asari, it's pretty close. It's just such laughable BS to not count them. True, but just realized I had forgotten Curator Avena. If the options for Ryders are exact same number that could knock Jaal out. Though I don't think Tom necessarily meant that there will be exactly same numbers, I doubt he remembers it that closely? So I guess his tweets should be taken with grain of salt. That this thread has more than enough. Well, coders thought Avela was for both Ryders, so it actually doesn't really change anything.
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Post by naychan on Mar 19, 2017 17:01:02 GMT
What do you guys think about sending Bioware bills for psychotherapy some of us will have to go through after this awesome marketing? When we can start play with VPN? 20, 18:00? I'm gonna have a heart attack when i'm reading all of this thread.
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Post by witchcocktor on Mar 19, 2017 17:01:47 GMT
Yeah leave Tom alone lol. The only thing he is guilty of is calling Jaal a ladykiller and that was an honest mistake... hopefully.
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Post by xilizhra on Mar 19, 2017 17:02:31 GMT
Having Jaal be straight would be ludicrous, and I'm at least 80% sure he's bi.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 17:02:34 GMT
Yeah leave Tom alone lol. The only thing he is guilty of is calling Jaal a ladykiller and that was an honest mistake lol. That's the thing. People want hints then read into them wrong, attack him, he tries to fix his mistake, that's read into wrong, and it never ends.
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Post by relay314 on Mar 19, 2017 17:03:43 GMT
game playable in 14 hours. MOVE FASTER CLOCK.
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Post by vertigomez on Mar 19, 2017 17:03:48 GMT
Can someone tell him it's not a waiting game for everyone else, since they all know they're getting a squad member+? Like, say it nice, but come on. "It's a waiting game" is so goddamn frustrating. Why is it a waiting game for Jaal alone among the squadmates? WHHHYYYYYYY. The game is being played by people at this moment. It's not out to most people, but it's out. WHY does this one detail have to be a damn secret?
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Post by Panda on Mar 19, 2017 17:04:06 GMT
True, but just realized I had forgotten Curator Avena. If the options for Ryders are exact same number that could knock Jaal out. Though I don't think Tom necessarily meant that there will be exactly same numbers, I doubt he remembers it that closely? So I guess his tweets should be taken with grain of salt. That this thread has more than enough. Well, coders thought Avela was for both Ryders, so it actually doesn't really change anything. Good. I had forgetting who she was for. So if she's for both then Jaal should be for both as well for same options for both genders.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 17:04:23 GMT
Jaal is not even listed as a squadmate on the official site lol
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Post by witchcocktor on Mar 19, 2017 17:04:39 GMT
Yeah leave Tom alone lol. The only thing he is guilty of is calling Jaal a ladykiller and that was an honest mistake lol. That's the thing. People want hints then read into wrong, attack him, he tries to fix his mistake, that's read into wrong, and it never ends. I'm not certain if anyone is attacking him but yes, that's true. But it really could help if he was more careful in what he responds to. I think all the devs and VA's are sort of guilty of this.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Mar 19, 2017 17:04:59 GMT
I've always tried taking this mess with humour, but damn this is taking the best of me.
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Post by flog61 on Mar 19, 2017 17:05:09 GMT
Yeah leave Tom alone lol. The only thing he is guilty of is calling Jaal a ladykiller and that was an honest mistake lol. That's the thing. People want hints then read into them wrong, attack him, he tries to fix his mistake, that's read into wrong, and it never ends. I didn't attack him I was very complimentary of his work in the follow up tweets
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Post by Jaal Is Not Ojingeo on Mar 19, 2017 17:05:26 GMT
he's followed up with this when I was suggesting gay men might only have one option I think if he said 'there is more than one m/m option on tempest' or something it would be pretty obvious who he is talking about. He seems pretty tied right now. It's still frustrating though. As for the asari gender thing, I don't think Bioware understands what their own lore is. They said one thing in Mass Effect 1, said another thing later, it's no wonder people keep saying different things. I think bottom line is, people need to stop using the asari as a "well technically" answer for LGB romances.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 17:05:43 GMT
That's the thing. People want hints then read into wrong, attack him, he tries to fix his mistake, that's read into wrong, and it never ends. I'm not certain if anyone is attacking him but yes, that's true. But it really could help if he was more careful in what he responds to. I think all the devs and VA's are sort of guilty of this. I saw some rude tweets after the ladykiller comment, but tbh, he IS one, but Tom meant no harm or hints he's straight. He is even playing Sara himself. flog61 not you. No worries!
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Post by Jaal Is Not Ojingeo on Mar 19, 2017 17:06:39 GMT
Suvi flirt vid below the cut. Wanted to mention something I've liked about ME:A character interactions so far. I like how self-aware the awkwardness is. Like... Ryder is not an automaton nor a super suave sex machine. She's a 22-year-old with a crush. I love it. Like, Shep got awkward AF at times but the game tried to tell you s/he was being smooth... when oftentimes s/he just came off as a lawsuit waiting to happen. One of the only times I remember Shep being awkward and the game ACKNOWLEDGING it as awkward was in the Citadel DLC, when Garrus drags a romanced Shepard out on the dance floor and she sort of stumbles and puts up a half-hearted protest. So I'm just saying I am 100% on board with dorky, romantically-challenged Ryder. The line's good, but... I do wish that I could have a bit more control over the tone? I'm not objecting to Ryder being dorky, but it was laid on a hair thicker than I'd like. Then again, I've been doing a lot of TOR with my Sith Inquisitor, for whom dorkiness was never on the table (though she's also probably around 22, come to think of it), so I might just need to get used to it. I'm pretty sure she acted that way because the player picked the emotional option. I could be wrong though. It looks like the flirt has two branching paths here.
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Post by ash on Mar 19, 2017 17:06:55 GMT
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Post by caladrius on Mar 19, 2017 17:07:12 GMT
Well, coders thought Avela was for both Ryders, so it actually doesn't really change anything. Good. I had forgetting who she was for. So if she's for both then Jaal should be for both as well for same options for both genders. Hopefully, unless they're counting the Reyes fling, and then we're screwed. lol
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Post by izut on Mar 19, 2017 17:07:25 GMT
You guys do realize that the voice actors are under an NDA, right? And yet, they still seemed to be sure about their characters being bi (Suvi, Cora). They may not say spoilery things but the way they act gives you a lot. They should simply keep it quiet so there would be no negative consequences.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 17:07:27 GMT
So if both Ryders have equal options and Asaris aren't option even though you can romance them wut: Sara: Liam, Vetra, Suvi, Jaal Scott: Cora, Vetra, Gil, Jaal? Reyes? Nexus Doctor? Kallo? I'm being delusional..
EDIT: Fuck, forgot Curator Avena. If she's Scott only she could knock Jaal out
I've been thinking about this. It doesn't make sense. There are 9 romances. One, maybe two, are asari. And there is one straight/gay character for Scott and Sara. So they even out. The rest are bisexual. So even if asari didn't, the numbers would be even: Scott: Cora, Vetra, Jaal?, Gil, Avela, "nex_doc" (6) Sara: Liam, Jaal, Vetra, Suvi, Avela, "nex_doc" (6) So basically, his whole, "I don't think that asari count" thing is bogus because it wouldn't matter unless one of them got an extra "straight" or "gay" exclusive character. Can someone tell him it's not a waiting game for everyone else, since they all know they're getting a squad member+? Like, say it nice, but come on. It's eyeroll inducing for sure. Wouldn't stop him giving hints as he has for other aspects of the game And this is the crux of the issue. There's no consistency and it's hypocriitcal since it's always towards the m/m content.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 19, 2017 17:09:05 GMT
I'm not certain if anyone is attacking him but yes, that's true. But it really could help if he was more careful in what he responds to. I think all the devs and VA's are sort of guilty of this. I saw some rude tweets after the ladykiller comment, but tbh, he IS one, but Tom meant no harm or hints he's straight. He is even playing Sara himself. flog61 not you. No worries! Yeah the whole tweeting constantly demanding answers for Lis/Animations is just nah fam. It's really really not that serious.
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