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Post by Pokemario on Mar 20, 2017 18:35:17 GMT
I've seen a LOT of mistakes in the DAI Prima Guide. Apparently, ME3's also had mistakes. I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing happened with MEA
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Post by uberlurker on Mar 20, 2017 18:35:36 GMT
Hey, DA team? If you could release DA4 before January, that would be sweet. Expect DA4 to be around in 2020, at the earliest.
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Post by saberchic on Mar 20, 2017 18:35:46 GMT
Cora: Scott only, exclusive romance Pee Bee: Scott and Sara, "culminates in a unique friendship after flirted with several times, opening unique content with an additional option for exclusivity" Vetra: Scot and Sara, exclusive romance Liam: Sara only, "culminates in a unique friendship after flirted with several times, opening unique content with an additional option for exclusivity" Jaal: Sara only, "culminates in a unique friendship after flirted with several times, opening unique content with an additional option for exclusivity" Gil: Scott only, "culminates in a unique friendship after flirted with several times, opening unique content with an additional option for exclusivity" Suvi: Sara only, exclusive romance Avela: [nothing is listed for who she is available for or if it's exclusive or not, but she's listed as a romance] Reyes: Scott and Sara, "culminates in a unique friendship after flirted with several times, opening unique content with an additional option for exclusivity" Keri: [nothing is listed for who she is available for or if it's exclusive or not, but she's listed as a romance] I'm disappointed if this is true about Jaal. M/M should have a squad option. However, until I see youtube of Scott being rejected, I'm going to be cautious. ME3 guide had Kaidan as femShep only, so there is that. Has anyone tweeted the devs to see if they actually read the romance section of the guide? I'd like to see if it's accurate.
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Post by Panda on Mar 20, 2017 18:35:54 GMT
Maybe we should all start asking all bisexual LI's back. It clearly was mistake from playerbase to complain about that. Bioware has fucked up numbers all the time after that, it's like they can't count. 3 for m/f romance in squad, 2 for f/m, 2 for f/f, 0 for m/m.. yup all equal and fair
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Post by pupsofwar on Mar 20, 2017 18:35:57 GMT
On the upside, even if the game is financially successful, the rollout has been rough enough that maybe the suits upstairs will figure out they shouldn't give Mac Walters another shot as project lead.
Dude already wasn't good as a lead writer, I'm not sure who thought he was ready for a big promotion.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 18:36:18 GMT
Looking at the guide female players don't get a romance save for Vetra, only something described in a really weird way, as a friendship with an option of exclusivity? Is there some fertile females sharing coop going around a-la Krogans or something lore wise? I am a bit confused. This friendship, exclusivity thing, is just an extension of the way they've tried to make relationships (platonic and romantic) as a whole more meaningful. So, it's my understanding that you can develop a friendship with these characters regardless of whether you decide to romance them, but if you do flirt and so on you have extra opportunities. The exclusivity part means that not all romances need start out as 'locked in' - but rather you can start something casual with them and not become serious, and start a romance with someone else. But, when you get to a certain point, you can choose to be exclusive with that person. It's not in any way indicative that a romance is somehow lesser. Quite the opposite, in fact. Which makes it interesting, and a little worrying, that Suvi is the only one on the Tempest who doesn't have this next to her name. So, does that mean that the moment you picked a heart option with Vetra, you are basically wed, and the rest of the relationships are more like Inquisition where you can use flirts as just conversational options? And, yes, I am with everyone on the apparent oddness of two MW squadmates being bi, but Andromedians looking for human girls only.
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Post by DalyaTheTurtle on Mar 20, 2017 18:36:48 GMT
I say don't go off to some private chat. This is where we know devs have been known to look over, the BSN, not Reddit or some board. If you retreat than it just silences your complaints. We got fucked, they won't even tell us. I don't care about being super nice and making them comfortable anymore. Let them know we're not going to just keep buying their games for any scraps. About Reddit I can say that developers do read it. I know Eric Musco from SWTOR follows SWTOR sub-Reddit and sometimes even comments there. Reddit is easy place for them to check what is happening. A lot of people on the ME subreddit complain because no one ever talks to them there. I actually remember one person saying that it seemed like they talk to us over here more.
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Post by dalinne on Mar 20, 2017 18:37:01 GMT
THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!! Why is the rum gone???? (trying to light up the mood...)
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Post by xilizhra on Mar 20, 2017 18:37:11 GMT
On the upside, even if the game is financially successful, the rollout has been rough enough that maybe the suits upstairs will figure out they shouldn't give Mac Walters another shot as project lead. Dude already wasn't good as a lead writer, I'm not sure who thought he was ready for a big promotion. Do we want the consequences of yet more writer shuffling in ME? That happened in the original trilogy, and it completely wrecked its thematic consistency.
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Post by dhalion on Mar 20, 2017 18:37:21 GMT
I'm eating a pint of ice cream and no one can stop me. *shares in a futile attempt to stop the pain * Good thing I bought 3 pints of non-dairy Ben & Jerry's the other day, but I don't think I can eat at all, I'm one of those people who loses their appetite completely when anxious or depressed so lol
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Post by Suaimhneas on Mar 20, 2017 18:37:22 GMT
Hmm I thought everyone was supposed to have equal romance content? seems the non ship romances have less than the crewmates who are dwarfed by the squadmates of which Cora reigns supreme.
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Post by witchcocktor on Mar 20, 2017 18:37:37 GMT
Cora: Scott only, exclusive romance Pee Bee: Scott and Sara, "culminates in a unique friendship after flirted with several times, opening unique content with an additional option for exclusivity" Vetra: Scot and Sara, exclusive romance Liam: Sara only, "culminates in a unique friendship after flirted with several times, opening unique content with an additional option for exclusivity" Jaal: Sara only, "culminates in a unique friendship after flirted with several times, opening unique content with an additional option for exclusivity" Gil: Scott only, "culminates in a unique friendship after flirted with several times, opening unique content with an additional option for exclusivity" Suvi: Sara only, exclusive romance Avela: [nothing is listed for who she is available for or if it's exclusive or not, but she's listed as a romance] Reyes: Scott and Sara, "culminates in a unique friendship after flirted with several times, opening unique content with an additional option for exclusivity" Keri: [nothing is listed for who she is available for or if it's exclusive or not, but she's listed as a romance] I'm disappointed if this is true about Jaal. M/M should have a squad option. However, until I see youtube of Scott being rejected, I'm going to be cautious. ME3 guide had Kaidan as femShep only, so there is that. Has anyone tweeted the devs to see if they actually read the romance section of the guide? I'd like to see if it's accurate. Well the concerning thing is that some Scott's haven't been able to flirt with Jaal AT ALL. But then there's still a few pople hovering about saying '' yes, you can flirt with Jaal '' I've given up hope completely myself.
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Post by Panda on Mar 20, 2017 18:38:05 GMT
I've seen a LOT of mistakes in the DAI Prima Guide. Apparently, ME3's also had mistakes. I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing happened with MEA Ah hope. I had that once. I wonder if I'm going to turn into witch soon.
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Post by rebelrebel on Mar 20, 2017 18:38:12 GMT
Cora: Scott only, exclusive romance Pee Bee: Scott and Sara, "culminates in a unique friendship after flirted with several times, opening unique content with an additional option for exclusivity" Vetra: Scot and Sara, exclusive romance Liam: Sara only, "culminates in a unique friendship after flirted with several times, opening unique content with an additional option for exclusivity" Jaal: Sara only, "culminates in a unique friendship after flirted with several times, opening unique content with an additional option for exclusivity" Gil: Scott only, "culminates in a unique friendship after flirted with several times, opening unique content with an additional option for exclusivity" Suvi: Sara only, exclusive romance Avela: [nothing is listed for who she is available for or if it's exclusive or not, but she's listed as a romance] Reyes: Scott and Sara, "culminates in a unique friendship after flirted with several times, opening unique content with an additional option for exclusivity" Keri: [nothing is listed for who she is available for or if it's exclusive or not, but she's listed as a romance] I'm disappointed if this is true about Jaal. M/M should have a squad option. However, until I see youtube of Scott being rejected, I'm going to be cautious. ME3 guide had Kaidan as femShep only, so there is that. Has anyone tweeted the devs to see if they actually read the romance section of the guide? I'd like to see if it's accurate. Thing is, looks like there isn't even an option to flirt with Jaal as Scott.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 18:38:20 GMT
Poly Vetra.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 18:38:24 GMT
LMAO YEAH REMEMBER THAT? THEY LITERALLY FUCKING SAID THAT HAHAHAHA (I AM NOT OKAY) Thanks for reminding me. Now I can be even more salty, as if that was possible lmao "Gay men are fully capable of smooching female aliens." - BW probably So we are back to old stereotype of "gays are men who want to be women" (I've actually fucking heard it from my idiot-ex when I still presented as a hetero woman). I begin to believe that quite a bunch of straight males really carry this subconcious belief, because what else can explain this fuckery.
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Post by Lady Artifice on Mar 20, 2017 18:38:25 GMT
Since it didn't make sense to put gay and bi men in the squad, it also doesn't make sense for this gay to pay full price for the game. Hey, DA team? If you could release DA4 before January, that would be sweet. This would be a good tone for a Dev directed tweet.
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Post by darkrogue on Mar 20, 2017 18:38:30 GMT
Out of curiousity, what was everyone's opinion here about Inquisition? I enjoyed the game, and the characters, but it's painful to replay, mostly in terms of grinding (thank god for PC mods). The story is a bit cliche, not as grey as I would've liked, and tbh, DAII had more unique and diverse characters imo. That isn't to say I didn't immensely love them. I hated the war table. With a passion.
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Post by vertigomez on Mar 20, 2017 18:38:45 GMT
I'm eating a pint of ice cream and no one can stop me. *shares in a futile attempt to stop the pain * mmm now I want some americone dream. Caramel Cookie Crunch. Maybe the stomach pain will distract me from the sympathy pain. I'm eating a pint of ice cream and no one can stop me. *shares in a futile attempt to stop the pain * Is it too early to drink? It's 5 o'clock somewhere. I learned that staying up aaaallll night for this info. So yes. Booze.
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Post by PhatePhoenix on Mar 20, 2017 18:39:05 GMT
Maybe we should all start asking all bisexual LI's back. It clearly was mistake from playerbase to complain about that. Bioware has fucked up numbers all the time after that, it's like they can't count. 3 for m/f romance in squad, 2 for f/m, 2 for f/f, 0 for m/m.. yup all equal and fair It's flunking hard. Like, I get both sides. But this is painful to watch, and it's not fair. Maybe only the ME team, since they seem to struggle so much with numbers.
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Post by lauratsoni on Mar 20, 2017 18:39:12 GMT
this is BULLSHIT. i want to hope that the prima guide is wrong, as it has been before, but honestly? i can't blame anyone who is too exhausted for hope right now. these past weeks have been such a fucking rollercoast, i wanna give you all big gay hugs. also, if jaal is straight, i'd like to have some polite words with bioware about what was found in the data-mining. did they make him bi, and then change their minds and decided that he's straight? because that's FUCKED UP (if that's the case).
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Post by lukensen87 on Mar 20, 2017 18:40:22 GMT
Cora: Scott only, exclusive romance Pee Bee: Scott and Sara, "culminates in a unique friendship after flirted with several times, opening unique content with an additional option for exclusivity" Vetra: Scot and Sara, exclusive romance Liam: Sara only, "culminates in a unique friendship after flirted with several times, opening unique content with an additional option for exclusivity" Jaal: Sara only, "culminates in a unique friendship after flirted with several times, opening unique content with an additional option for exclusivity" Gil: Scott only, "culminates in a unique friendship after flirted with several times, opening unique content with an additional option for exclusivity" Suvi: Sara only, exclusive romance Avela: [nothing is listed for who she is available for or if it's exclusive or not, but she's listed as a romance] Reyes: Scott and Sara, "culminates in a unique friendship after flirted with several times, opening unique content with an additional option for exclusivity" Keri: [nothing is listed for who she is available for or if it's exclusive or not, but she's listed as a romance] I'm disappointed if this is true about Jaal. M/M should have a squad option. However, until I see youtube of Scott being rejected, I'm going to be cautious. ME3 guide had Kaidan as femShep only, so there is that. Has anyone tweeted the devs to see if they actually read the romance section of the guide? I'd like to see if it's accurate. Thank you, but I don't think they would make such mistakes again after ME3, so no more space for my pointless hope anymore
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 18:40:28 GMT
I always felt that Jaal would be bi. Now I can't even trust my own intuition anymore, ffs. I begin to doubt myself, and who knows where it will lead me? All this just because they made Jaal straight. I need a therapist after this. I thought he'd be bi too. The first time I saw him I thought it couldn't be more obvious - he looks like he was intentionally designed to be attractive to both male and female players, he's a completely new race and a squadmate. They had every reason to make him available to all players. And we've never had an alien m/m romance (and I thought we would, after Thane) and if Jaal wasn't bi that would mean there wouldn't be a m/m squad romance... Everything about him just screamed bisexual. Guess I was wrong. Send the bills to Bioware. Maybe then they'll understand how much fucking impact their games actually have on people's lives... Ugh. For fuck's sake. I'm so done with this game. I will be so satisfied with myself when I buy it two years from now for 2 € from Instant Gaming. Maybe we will have modded romances then. And quick save.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 18:40:37 GMT
I'm never going to trust BioWare ever again lmao. I'll probably still enjoy the game and love it to some extent, yeah, but this is a deep blow. So much queerbaiting, so much hinting and these lying tweets... If they had not promoted this game with #prettygoodbanging all the fucking time, if they had outright told people that no, men don't get a squadmate LI, I wouldn't be this fucking bitter right now. They are part of EA but I still hoped, they had some kind of decency left in them. This is just cruel and - sorry not sorry - the lead devs and the marketing team are fucking assholes.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 18:41:08 GMT
Out of curiousity, what was everyone's opinion here about Inquisition? I enjoyed the game, and the characters, but it's painful to replay, mostly in terms of grinding (thank god for PC mods). The story is a bit cliche, not as grey as I would've liked, and tbh, DAII had more unique and diverse characters imo. That isn't to say I didn't immensely love them. Probably better asked on Inquisition forums a few days down the road. You will get more interesting discussion and it won't drown in the Andromeda stuff. Dorian is my beau there.... MM options don't appeal exclusively to gay males. Just like FF are not attractive only for lesbian players...
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