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Post by sageoflife on Mar 20, 2017 21:27:12 GMT
Can everyone with a Twitter account please start asking the devs why, if non-squad romances are so great, gay men are the only orientation expected to settle for them? And without harassing or threatening them, if you don't mind. (sad that I have to add that caveat)
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Post by Zero on Mar 20, 2017 21:27:27 GMT
Sims 4 also almost has no gender locked clothes or hairstyles, I love playing it in times like these because I have my perfect 100% gay city v_v; They even patched in free update to make trans, non-binary and genderfluid characters. Gender really isn't obstacle of making any kind of character anymore. Sims 4 really might be most inclusive game around in that regard. Sims has almost always been ahead of its time, I think the sims 4 really is the most inclusive game right now.
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Post by Ianamus on Mar 20, 2017 21:28:29 GMT
And as far as the 'it wouldn't make sense' argument...it doesn't make sense THAT HE'S STRAIGHT. From all we know of Angaran culture and Jaal himself, he was the perfect candidate for a pansexual squadmate. He comes from an entirely progressive, free love culture and is up for banging a woman of another species from another galaxy but won't stretch to her dude counterpart? OMG Bioware SJW pandering to red pillers and gamergaters and shit y did u make Jaal straight when he's obvs bi? I don't see why him being an alien from a different galaxy should automatically make him bisexual. From our perspective he's also an alien from another galaxy- but from what I can see he's garnering a lot of interest from users who are attracted to men and not a lot from the users who aren't. The fact that people here care about the gender of the alien LI's is more than enough proof for me that the aliens themselves would generally care about gender too.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 21:28:50 GMT
And as far as the 'it wouldn't make sense' argument...it doesn't make sense THAT HE'S STRAIGHT. From all we know of Angaran culture and Jaal himself, he was the perfect candidate for a pansexual squadmate. He comes from an entirely progressive, free love culture and is up for banging a woman of another species from another galaxy but won't stretch to her dude counterpart? OMG Bioware SJW pandering to red pillers and gamergaters and shit y did u make Jaal straight when he's obvs bi? And conveniently it seems there are no options for Scott to flirt with Jaal, thus avoiding any rejection or any line where Jaal says "no homo" ffs
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Post by metta on Mar 20, 2017 21:28:56 GMT
I've calmed down a bit.
I'm never pre-ordering a game ever again (I should of learned my lesson from Batman's PC port).
And I will be playing the game for a few hours...then get a refund. They don't deserve my money.
It seems I will be DA only player from now on (if they don't fuck up too).
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 20, 2017 21:28:59 GMT
If you really want to know ME team's intention toward gay people, even ignore the trilogy debacle, there is no sex scene with any of the gay romance but fade to black, they don't even bother program a scene, the exclusive gay character has no unique face, no companion romance, lowest number of options.
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Post by dhalion on Mar 20, 2017 21:29:06 GMT
Those of you who've posted your twitters in this thread, is it alright if I follow you? it's ok for me (my twitter account is usually used for animal activism so beware of ugly images)That's okay, I already follow a bunch of animal sanctuary and activism pages on FB and such (Farm Sanctuary, etc) so I'm sadly used to seeing those things.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 21:29:40 GMT
Those of you who've posted your twitters in this thread, is it alright if I follow you? it's ok for me (my twitter account is usually used for animal activism so beware of ugly images)Fixed that for you, no shame in that, be proud of it.
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Post by Iakus on Mar 20, 2017 21:29:55 GMT
You know, my most recent Inquisitor was a woman... What if I, as a gay man, don't want to play as a woman, though? Straight guys, straight women, and gay women can all get the achievement by playing their gender and orientation combination. Curiously enough, I cannot do the same. *shrug* I wanted to do the Solas romance. Can't do it on a man, or any race other than elf. There was no achievement attached to it, true. But I wanted to see the content.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Mar 20, 2017 21:30:32 GMT
it's ok for me (my twitter account is usually used for animal activism so beware of ugly images)That's okay, I already follow a bunch of animal sanctuary and activism pages on FB and such (Farm Sanctuary, etc) so I'm sadly used to seeing those things. that's great then! I will follow you back
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Post by theladyheart on Mar 20, 2017 21:31:03 GMT
I want a gay dragon LI. Do it or else Bioware. YAAASSSS, I want a dragon shapeshifter as an LI so I can literally RIDE my husbando into battle. Ride...
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Mar 20, 2017 21:31:08 GMT
Also, for anyone coming across this thread baffled by the rage over a video game waifu; I actually don't much care about the romances. It's the fact that gay men, once again, are clearly treated differently to lesbians and straight guys/girls. TWO fucking squadmates, minimum, for all the others. ZERO for gay men. Just the GESTURE of one guy on the squad would have been fine for everyone here, whether he was to their taste or not. I have no doubt that this was indeed fear of backlash from a certain shitty vocal counterculture. So congrats, Bioware, on being utterly pathetic and spineless.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 20, 2017 21:31:37 GMT
Sadly Sims 4 isn't on sale on origins anymore. It's EA, but it has gay romances Maybe I'll grab that instead when the price drops again. 60 euros for older game just isn't right. Pffft Sims franchise is such a money hog But damn kudos to them to not giving a fuuuuuck about the haters. My sims in m/m relationships are even wanting to "try for baby" with each other, and I'm like "WHAT?! STOP IT, NO!!! WE ARE NOT READY FOR THIS!!" I just want a damn season in the base game for once. They always removed the most popular content.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Mar 20, 2017 21:32:09 GMT
it's ok for me (my twitter account is usually used for animal activism so beware of ugly images)Fixed that for you, no shame in that, be proud of it. Awwww
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Post by sageoflife on Mar 20, 2017 21:32:21 GMT
If you really want to know ME team's intention toward gay people, even ignore the trilogy debacle, there is no sex scene with any of the gay romance but fade to black, they don't even bother program a scene, the exclusive gay character has no unique face, no companion romance, lowest number of options. Well, to be fair, the sex scenes are rather embarrassing.
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Mar 20, 2017 21:32:48 GMT
And as far as the 'it wouldn't make sense' argument...it doesn't make sense THAT HE'S STRAIGHT. From all we know of Angaran culture and Jaal himself, he was the perfect candidate for a pansexual squadmate. He comes from an entirely progressive, free love culture and is up for banging a woman of another species from another galaxy but won't stretch to her dude counterpart? OMG Bioware SJW pandering to red pillers and gamergaters and shit y did u make Jaal straight when he's obvs bi? I don't see why him being an alien from a different galaxy should automatically make him bisexual. From our perspective he's also an alien from another galaxy- but from what I can see he's garnering a lot of interest from users who are attracted to men and not a lot from the users who aren't. The fact that people here care about the gender of the alien LI's is more than enough proof for me that the aliens themselves would generally care about gender too. Because Jaal is a character crafted by writers who can make that mental connection between an openness to explore and a good opportunity to have a character available to both genders.
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Post by Petroshenko on Mar 20, 2017 21:33:24 GMT
Those of you who've posted your twitters in this thread, is it alright if I follow you? (my twitter account is usually used for animal activism so beware of ugly images) Yes I noticed a really hot "otter" in your profile pic! Unless u ain't hairy then delete my post
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Post by Panda on Mar 20, 2017 21:33:38 GMT
They even patched in free update to make trans, non-binary and genderfluid characters. Gender really isn't obstacle of making any kind of character anymore. Sims 4 really might be most inclusive game around in that regard. Is that recent cause that's awesome! I haven't played in awhile cause I usually go in and out of obsessing over that game, but I might play that while I wait for 12am. It's not that new, has been around a while I think. I don't have the game myself, but saw news about it and then some videos. It should have this in character creator:
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Post by Cyonan on Mar 20, 2017 21:33:40 GMT
If you really want to know ME team's intention toward gay people, even ignore the trilogy debacle, there is no sex scene with any of the gay romance but fade to black, they don't even bother program a scene, the exclusive gay character has no unique face, no companion romance, lowest number of options. Well, to be fair, the sex scenes are rather embarrassing. but are they "Morrigan having sex in her underwear which is actually less revealing than her normal clothes where she doesn't wear a bra" embarrassing?
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Post by feainn on Mar 20, 2017 21:35:13 GMT
I can't be bothered to catch up on the pages I've missed, I'm too salty, but has anyone actually asked the devs about Jaal?
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Post by dhalion on Mar 20, 2017 21:35:31 GMT
Those of you who've posted your twitters in this thread, is it alright if I follow you? I won't mind. I am not really active though unless I am using my pitchfork lol. That's okay, mine's pretty barren too lol And as far as the 'it wouldn't make sense' argument...it doesn't make sense THAT HE'S STRAIGHT. From all we know of Angaran culture and Jaal himself, he was the perfect candidate for a pansexual squadmate. He comes from an entirely progressive, free love culture and is up for banging a woman of another species from another galaxy but won't stretch to her dude counterpart? OMG Bioware SJW pandering to red pillers and gamergaters and shit y did u make Jaal straight when he's obvs bi? I don't see why him being an alien from a different galaxy should automatically make him bisexual. From our perspective he's also an alien from another galaxy- but from what I can see he's garnering a lot of interest from users who are attracted to men and not a lot from the users who aren't. The fact that people here care about the gender of the alien LI's is more than enough proof for me that the aliens themselves would generally care about gender too. FWIW, the first time I saw Jaal I had no idea if he was male or female (because the Angara look so non-human) and I was still immediately intrigued. No idea what point I'm trying to make, running on no sleep, just throwing that out there.
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Post by amoebae † on Mar 20, 2017 21:35:55 GMT
I made us a thing:
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Post by Frhozen on Mar 20, 2017 21:36:24 GMT
And now I'm conflicted. On the one hand I do want to play the game, on the other hand, I also really want to vote with my wallet against being treated like a second-class citizen. *sigh* #firstworldproblems
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 20, 2017 21:36:40 GMT
If you really want to know ME team's intention toward gay people, even ignore the trilogy debacle, there is no sex scene with any of the gay romance but fade to black, they don't even bother program a scene, the exclusive gay character has no unique face, no companion romance, lowest number of options. Well, to be fair, the sex scenes are rather embarrassing. The thing is it's available for others, and it costs resources. If they bother to spend those resources for multiple scenes for straight romances and not for gay romance, it indicates their intention. At the end of the day, it's about playing it safe for them.
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Post by SofaJockey on Mar 20, 2017 21:37:12 GMT
Can everyone with a Twitter account please start asking the devs why, if non-squad romances are so great, gay men are the only orientation expected to settle for them? And without harassing or threatening them, if you don't mind. (sad that I have to add that caveat) The caveat is important, a Twitter account can be blocked in a second if the point isn't made reasonably and will deter the reading of other tweets. And as an aside, Ian was reading feedback in this thread: bsn.boards.net/thread/5130up until a lock at midnight PST, so if anyone wants to pop a calm piece of feedback in there, you have few hours... Bear in mind that Ian may well have nothing to do with the romance decisions, so it's just a: 'to pass back'.
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