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Post by conanzms on Mar 20, 2017 22:25:03 GMT
At the same time, they wouldn't have the money or resources they have now. It's a double edged sword. And remember, EA is an inclusive company, which has plenty of lgbt content out there under its name. These decisions are never a cut and dried as they might seem. I just really don't want people to give BioWare a pass for something that they still have at least some amount of control over. EA has never have a problem with gay contents. They do a lot of business decisions that may piss off the dudebros, adding a rainbow shirt in their Fifa game, showing up often at gaycons, no problem at all with Sims 4 sex-free customization. The problem is not with EA, but with Mass Effect team, they have pulled this shit way before EA, all the way back to ME1. There is a clear difference between DA games and ME games. ME games don't care about gay players in EVERY single of their game. Yeah, you guys are right, ME team definitely at least should have the decency to fight for it, but they did not care in the end. I'm just in denial when the same developers gave us DAI would choose to screw us over with this, I mean DAI is like a (not saying it like a bad thing, but) SJW's wet dream we had straight, gay, lesbian, and bi/pan LIs IN THE SQUAD, with a prominent trans character featured in. I guess the project leads on DA and ME had different priorities in mind, (petition to have project leaders for future MEs to be gay, or bi, whatevs
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Post by Artemis on Mar 20, 2017 22:25:03 GMT
Ah no problem. I've done that before in Sims 3... made all townies totally hot and all 100% in gay or lesbian relationships Down with heteronormativity Check out MC Command Centre on Mod The Sims. You can set it to never produce townies, or to produce as many as you want. You can set up culling, and all sorts. (This is for TS4. For TS3 there is the nraas set of mods - should be easily found in google) do you have a link for this? I've tried to get it through Mod The Sims but the link is always blocked for some reason.
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Post by riou on Mar 20, 2017 22:25:07 GMT
So, I'm talking to someone who was equally invested in Jaal. Here's a real kicker, IF it's true:
It's not that Scott gets rejected if you try and flirt with Jaal.
Apparently the flirt option doesn't even appear in the first place. Scott can't even TRY to flirt with him.
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Mar 20, 2017 22:25:56 GMT
Yeah, Bioware reaaaally needs to drop the 'we're so progressive, be kind to each other gaiz' narrative when they've been cucked by a bunch of Trump voting basement dwellers. Excellent use of the pejorative "cuck" here, well done. Only lacks "snowflakes" and "triggered." Well they clearly have done it so as not to trigger homophobic snowflakes.
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Post by Raga on Mar 20, 2017 22:25:58 GMT
Vetra not explicit. Haven't seen anything for Jaal yet.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 20, 2017 22:26:03 GMT
So, I'm talking to someone who was equally invested in Jaal. Here's a real kicker, IF it's true: It's not that Scott gets rejected if you try and flirt with Jaal. Apparently the flirt option doesn't even appear in the first place. Scott can't even TRY to flirt with him.It actually makes sense because the codes are there, they just disable it.
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Post by amoebae † on Mar 20, 2017 22:27:07 GMT
All the previewers are confirming as well. The game is over. Don't forget about the writer. I didn't know the writer had confirmed it. On twitter, or...?
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 20, 2017 22:27:21 GMT
So, I'm talking to someone who was equally invested in Jaal. Here's a real kicker, IF it's true: It's not that Scott gets rejected if you try and flirt with Jaal. Apparently the flirt option doesn't even appear in the first place. Scott can't even TRY to flirt with him.It actually makes sense because the codes are there, they just disable it. They couldn't even be assed to put in a rejection. smh
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Post by riou on Mar 20, 2017 22:27:41 GMT
Alright then! Who wants to put together an effort to find someone to create a Bi Jaal mod and rub in the dev's faces or something.
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Post by Suaimhneas on Mar 20, 2017 22:27:57 GMT
(petition to have project leaders for future MEs to be gay, or bi, whatevs Or just not Mac Walters
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Post by izut on Mar 20, 2017 22:28:17 GMT
Don't forget about the writer. I didn't know the writer had confirmed it. On twitter, or...? Twitter. Someone even posted it here. Can't remember what page was that.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 20, 2017 22:28:49 GMT
People who've been looking, can someone tell me how explicit the Rydette x Vetra and the ( sorry sorry sorry) Rydette x Jaal scenes are? The Vetra romance isn't explicit. Vetra and Ryder kiss while it looks like they're going to lay down on the bed as it fades to black. It alludes to sex, but doesn't actually show it.
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Post by caladrius on Mar 20, 2017 22:29:24 GMT
I believe that's what we'd already thought, the flirt just never happens. I assume as a long con so that I, personally, couldn't cancel my pre-order in time after the theoretical rejection line was found and posted by reviewers.
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Mar 20, 2017 22:30:21 GMT
Imma mod the shit out of Fallout 4 and replay that instead. Come through, gay rage! They have the top tier husbando anyway. They do after I've modded a hefty beard and 50 pounds of muscle/fat on to him.
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Post by amoebae † on Mar 20, 2017 22:30:29 GMT
Check out MC Command Centre on Mod The Sims. You can set it to never produce townies, or to produce as many as you want. You can set up culling, and all sorts. (This is for TS4. For TS3 there is the nraas set of mods - should be easily found in google) do you have a link for this? I've tried to get it through Mod The Sims but the link is always blocked for some reason. That's weird, I can't access it either. I wonder if he's taken it down and started hosting elsewhere? I'll ask my peeps on tumblr and see what I can find out.
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Post by miso9 on Mar 20, 2017 22:30:41 GMT
That would mean no 'homosexual lesbian' in this game. Not cool wishing to take out representation of a different sexual minority to replace it with our own. i know that some people believe that you can't be asexual and a lesbian at the same time. i respect that i guess? but i disagree. (fwiw i am a lesbian, and i'm not ace.) don't much feel like discussing it, i feel like it's been rehashed a couple times here already. Asexual lesbians don't feel sexual attraction to women, they love women completely platonically. Their sexuality is very different than mine, according to every clinical definition we have different sexual orientations, their experiences don't resemble experiences of people who share my sexuality. And what bothers me in it the most is not even the appropriation and erasure, but the validation of homophobic stereotypes about lesbians it would de facto lead to. Oh hey, this is a lesbian who doesn't even like vagina, guess lesbian bed death is true, heh heh.
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Post by Frhozen on Mar 20, 2017 22:30:47 GMT
(petition to have project leaders for future MEs to be gay, or bi, whatevs One of us, one of us,...
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Post by bemimi † on Mar 20, 2017 22:30:55 GMT
Alright then! Who wants to put together an effort to find someone to create a Bi Jaal mod and rub in the dev's faces or something. Honestly if the code is similar to DAI's & they just blocked Scott from flirting with Jaal...totally doable.
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Post by riou on Mar 20, 2017 22:30:57 GMT
I believe that's what we'd already thought, the flirt just never happens. I assume as a long con so that I, personally, couldn't cancel my pre-order in time after the theoretical rejection line was found and posted by reviewers. Well, I won't lie. This is the first time I have been seriously tempted to withdraw my pre-order even though it's literally the day of release (the game unlocks for me at 9pm PDT), but since I told myself I wouldn't do that, I won't. But this pisses me off.
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Post by Mir Aven on Mar 20, 2017 22:31:50 GMT
I wonder on another note though, how the devs expect good feedback from us when they're spending 80% of their time talkin to fans via twitter, where you can barely post 3 sentences in a tweet. I really doubt they're on Reddit on a regular basis, even though some people seem to believe that. I think that was the reason why they moved to twitter in the first place.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 20, 2017 22:32:10 GMT
EA has never have a problem with gay contents. They do a lot of business decisions that may piss off the dudebros, adding a rainbow shirt in their Fifa game, showing up often at gaycons, no problem at all with Sims 4 sex-free customization. The problem is not with EA, but with Mass Effect team, they have pulled this shit way before EA, all the way back to ME1. There is a clear difference between DA games and ME games. ME games don't care about gay players in EVERY single of their game. Yeah, you guys are right, ME team definitely at least should have the decency to fight for it, but they did not care in the end. I'm just in denial when the same developers gave us DAI would choose to screw us over with this, I mean DAI is like a (not saying it like a bad thing, but) SJW's wet dream we had straight, gay, lesbian, and bi/pan LIs IN THE SQUAD, with a prominent trans character featured in. I guess the project leads on DA and ME had different priorities in mind, (petition to have project leaders for future MEs to be gay, or bi, whatevs Team Dragon Age and Team ME lead by different people, they have different teams, so just because both teams are under Bioware don't mean they are the same. They didn't fight for it because EA didn't force them. If EA was against gay, DA wouldn't be such a "SJW's wet dream" as you put it since EA may see it as unappealing to straight guys. Mass Effect team makes every conscious decision to do what they did. They try to lean heavily toward straight guys, not saying that it's wrong if it's their decision to prioritize certain consumers, but not to even have 1 single gay companions while having 5 romances for straight guys are not a time constraint issue, it's a deliberate issue to appeal to the dudebros. Ironically, all the dudebros are calling this game SJW, Cora has "butch" hair. While trying to appeal to a certain demographic, ironically enough, they're losing everyone. I just love the irony here. lol
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Post by epenthesis on Mar 20, 2017 22:32:24 GMT
True. In the end, gay men get fukt in almost every category. 1) Least amount of options 2) Both options are NPC with CC face 3) Both options aren't that story relevant 4) Gay guy has a romance/story that again, highlights his gayness, just like with Steve and Dorian 5) No male m/m alien 6) Fade-to-black sex scenes 7) Most likely less story/romance content So yeah, it's pretty annoying, to say the least. And I'll bet they're surprised to find that we're not thrilled to have been thrown these scraps. It's not 2012 anymore; the bar is much higher in terms of quantity and quality of content. (And it's higher because they raised it themselves! They eagerly told us how there were more and better romances than ever, neglecting to mention that one set of players was going to get every last drop of the improvement.)
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Post by Frhozen on Mar 20, 2017 22:32:43 GMT
Alright then! Who wants to put together an effort to find someone to create a Bi Jaal mod and rub in the dev's faces or something. Honestly if the code is similar to DAI's & they just blocked Scott from flirting with Jaal...totally doable. If they didn't delete the audio files for it. IIRC, people have only been able to find one Scott/Jaal line in audio form so far, right?
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Post by Artemis on Mar 20, 2017 22:32:45 GMT
Excellent use of the pejorative "cuck" here, well done. Only lacks "snowflakes" and "triggered." Well they clearly have done it so as not to trigger homophobic snowflakes. well done
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Post by amoebae † on Mar 20, 2017 22:32:56 GMT
So, I'm talking to someone who was equally invested in Jaal. Here's a real kicker, IF it's true: It's not that Scott gets rejected if you try and flirt with Jaal. Apparently the flirt option doesn't even appear in the first place. Scott can't even TRY to flirt with him.Now see... ...I think this means he was intended to be bi at some point, hence all the coding, and they changed their minds (maybe several times), but because they didn't have time they didn't implement any flirts that can be rejected, and cut all flirts entirely instead.
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