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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Mar 20, 2017 23:28:17 GMT
Uh, yeah, since I'm no longer that bothered about the game I just caved and watched the majority of the Gil romance and lmao what the hell. It's like something from Queer As Folk or Coming Out On Top. It feels totally divorced from Mass Effect.
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Post by roseofquartz on Mar 20, 2017 23:28:27 GMT
At least with Fallout 4, they don't treat gay people as some kind of disease that need to be hidden away. I'll give them that. There is even a lesbian couple before the bomb drop. I still don't feel like we should be using Fallout 4's romance as something to base off of. Don't get me wrong, I loved aspects of it and I love all the characters (even preston, shut up), but story wise, is it better, or worse then what we are typically given by Bioware?
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 20, 2017 23:28:27 GMT
Good lord is seeing the DAO scenes the throwback.
Oh Alistair. You manchild you. But yeah I don't recall the scenes being that bad but I mostly skipped them because what on earth is that damn music.
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Post by Natashina on Mar 20, 2017 23:28:30 GMT
Morning all, how are we today? Jaal is straight, most of the thread is pissed off and the game launches in about 6 1/2 hours. Coffee?
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Post by sandalisthemaker on Mar 20, 2017 23:28:38 GMT
Prince, I get that you are upset about Jaal. We all are, but there really is no need to constantly drag poor Gil through the dirt because of it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 23:28:53 GMT
Ok, so I am downloading Dragon Age: Origins on my PS3. Out of curiosity I typed in the male protagonist and Zevran's romance on YouTube, since I know Zevran is a bi option for male and female I think? Now unless this is a PC mod or something, this romance scene is so much better than MEA's scraps. I know it's a different team but... this was what, 2009??? If that is a genuine scene, and not a mod, then I think I've might the right choice playing this over MEA. Genuine. *heavy breathing* It is so damn hot... I am in love with Zevran already. I still love love the original Mass Effect trilogy. Always. But screw Andromeda I am finally playing Dragon Age and banging me that EILF
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Post by byne on Mar 20, 2017 23:29:22 GMT
*reads the last few pages* Guys I have a confession to make I actually like asari
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Post by ash on Mar 20, 2017 23:30:05 GMT
Nah. He explains you how to drive the Nomad and on that all his plot importance is over *while Suvi appeared numerous times) from what I've seen while looking at my bf playing. He already did pretty much shitton of stuff (game appears to be really short plot-wise and apparently this "trust system" was bullshit too - he never took Liam with him, never talked to him then decided to go through all convos at once and got quick access to his loyalty and option to romance him because he simply did plot-critical points. "No, this time your romance won't be tied to plot! Brand-new system". Yeah. Of course. Gods, for now it's like 90% of their statements are reminding me of NMS fiasco. They promised too and haven't delivered shit. Maybe in a year or two game will be finished. It isn't looking finished at all for now. Eww that's shit. Also the game's short? Fuck me. Another reason I prefer BW game's linear. They were decent length and honest about it instead of this oooh 100 hours of collectathon bullshit and 12 hours if you do the main shit. Man what a disappointment. I feel more let down than I was by fallout 4. Least I can mod that shit to hell and build epic houses. Well, he's been playing for 16 hours now as his savefile states. He's not "complete all fetchquests" guy but tries to do most things and also is pretty slow - can just walk around for 30 minutes straight. And he's already done with Kadara. I think you can have "oooh, 100+ hours of gameplay" - if you set your goal to have 100% viability on all 5 planets and to scan every single shit.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 20, 2017 23:30:34 GMT
The most well done one is still from Kaidan for me, even with the underwear since it was an act before sex. It shows the romantic side of the sex, not the lust itself.
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Post by roseofquartz on Mar 20, 2017 23:30:58 GMT
Oh my god, and the male elf even has a different love scene with Zevran, like... wow those scenes completely top anything ME has ever done. Why the hell has it taken me so damn long to play Dragon Age. It's like I've found God. (Please tell those scenes are in the PS3 version and it's not a mod please) You actually like those awkward models bumping against each other? I prefer the fade to black. As far as I can tell from a glance, that is the unmodded scenes? Do me a favour, Prince, go look at the romance scenes for Fenris or Anders and tell me what you think
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Post by caladrius on Mar 20, 2017 23:31:07 GMT
To be honest, I am really disappointed since I watched Gil's video. I mean, I'm glad I did.. so I can just go for Reyes. It isn't what I was hoping for at all, though. This comes after thinking before seeing it that I would probably really like his path.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 23:31:23 GMT
*wakes up after nap to see if people have calmed down* *sees Nat angry* Can you guess that I just heard the bad news? I promise everyone I will be calmer. You guys need a bit of a calmer and more hopeful voice. We'll get through this. If those that are upset (hiya!), start putting emails and tweets together. Open up Notepad or google docs for it. Wording is extremely critical. I'm angry, but I also know that these are just human beings. I also know that they don't mean to make some folks feel like shit. I'm hoping this will be something they can learn from. I'm also trying to remember that not everyone on this team is a long-time BioWare employee. Some are brand new to the company. Some have gone into the ME:A team with a much different perspective. So I am trying very hard to cut them a little slack here. The only one that I will probably be bitter towards in the long run is one Mr. Mac "Gotta bang da Asari" Waters. The buck stopped with him. So he looked at a coded and detailed Jaal romance and decided, "Nope! Now give me my blue space babe." Seriously, Mac's love with Asari reminds me of Quentin Tarantino's foot fetish. Lol so I am not the only one who sees the similarities between Mac and Quentin haha
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Post by zeowik on Mar 20, 2017 23:31:56 GMT
No bi Jaal mod for me, I passed through enough angst with my Warden and the inevitable US, and bi Cullen mod. So no more. No more headcanon for me. I haven't played Skyrim and I heard that you can marry lizard men, the nearest thing to an alien in my books so... It's in my to do list Just a heads up TES is more about world building than plot or characterization. I love the series but realize you have to write your own stories in your head. Most of the love interests are blank slates for the romance who will marry you after doing a quest or two for them, and you have to imagine how the romance plays out. Even the ones with more personality have less than the 'flings' of the ME universe. I'm not bashing TES. I just don't want you going in not realizing TES takes the "role playing" aspect to the extreme of the player filling in the blanks. Also, with mods (at least for PC) you can romance Khajiit (cat people) too. It's curious you can't in the vanilla game, it's probably either due to time constraints making the game or due to running out of space on the Xbox 360, which at the time reserved a huge chunk of the DVD for Microsoft OS stuff and couldn't require HDD installs since not all Xbox 360 models had one.
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Post by dhalion on Mar 20, 2017 23:32:07 GMT
Oh my god, and the male elf even has a different love scene with Zevran, like... wow those scenes completely top anything ME has ever done. Why the hell has it taken me so damn long to play Dragon Age. It's like I've found God. (Please tell those scenes are in the PS3 version and it's not a mod please) m!elf player here, don't worry, that vid is legit (maybe that's why I thought the other vid was modded lol, literally never not played an elf in DAO)
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 20, 2017 23:32:28 GMT
Eww that's shit. Also the game's short? Fuck me. Another reason I prefer BW game's linear. They were decent length and honest about it instead of this oooh 100 hours of collectathon bullshit and 12 hours if you do the main shit. Man what a disappointment. I feel more let down than I was by fallout 4. Least I can mod that shit to hell and build epic houses. Well, he's been playing for 16 hours now as his savefile states. He's not "complete all fetchquests" guy but tries to do most things and also is pretty slow - can just walk around for 30 minutes straight. And he's already done with Kadara. I think you can have "oooh, 100+ hours of gameplay" - if you set your goal to have 100% viability on all 5 planets and to scan every single shit. *disgusted noise*
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Post by PhatePhoenix on Mar 20, 2017 23:32:39 GMT
Zevran appreciation always makes me happy.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 20, 2017 23:33:17 GMT
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Post by Steelcan on Mar 20, 2017 23:33:32 GMT
*reads the last few pages* Guys I have a confession to make I actually like asari ur ded 2 me
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Post by izut on Mar 20, 2017 23:33:52 GMT
Morning all, how are we today? Jaal is straight, most of the thread is pissed off and the game launches in about 6 1/2 hours. Coffee? ~3 days for me And still no trailer with Sara.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 20, 2017 23:33:52 GMT
*reads the last few pages* Guys I have a confession to make I actually like asari
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Post by Suaimhneas on Mar 20, 2017 23:34:04 GMT
Oh my god, and the male elf even has a different love scene with Zevran, like... wow those scenes completely top anything ME has ever done. Why the hell has it taken me so damn long to play Dragon Age. It's like I've found God. (Please tell those scenes are in the PS3 version and it's not a mod please) You actually like those awkward models bumping against each other? I prefer the fade to black. As far as I can tell from a glance, that is the unmodded scenes? Do me a favour, Prince, go look at the romance scenes for Fenris or Anders and tell me what you think I'd say DA2 scenes were a bit more subdued, but to their credit I think it was like that with all the romances not just the gays TM
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Post by Vy on Mar 20, 2017 23:34:13 GMT
Alright, I'm home now...*stretches hands* I was really hoping I wouldn't have to type any of this. First, a gif of my reaction. Like I said before, I'm fully aware that I'm in a minority; I'm reminded of it regularly. This doesn't change the fact that it really stings when I'm reminded that I'm second-class because of it, especially by a developer that has cultivated a reputation for being an ally to the LGBT community (admittedly mostly thanks to the Dragon Age team). Between DA2, ME3, and especially DA:I, I honestly thought things were looking up for LGBT representation in Bioware games. Truth be told I was incredibly excited by the prospect of being able to play through the new game and romance my favorite male squadmate as a male protagonist when I couldn't do that in the original trilogy - I just assumed ME:A would follow DA:I's lead, and I fully expected Liam and/or Jaal to be bi when their characters were first announced. Well, recent information indicates that this won't be the case. And honestly? I'm just...done. Between this and the myriad other issues with the game that're coming to light, I think I'll wait for a sale, if I ever pick it up at all. When I'm in a better headspace, I think I'll write a note to the devs about this. On a semirelated note, it really annoys me that Mass Effect seems to be the only major space opera RPG. I was brainstorming an idea for one (based partially on some of the issues I've seen in this thread), but I'm not sure where would be an appropriate place to share it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 23:34:23 GMT
Sorry, but Gil is the definition of a token gay character. "We are trying to move away from token characters and make things feel more natural and realistic" They really do live in a bubble. For all the mistakes he made, I genuinely feel Casey cared. Why do you think he's a "token gay character"? I've seen this said a few times now and I'm not understanding this nor the claim (made by someone else, I think) that his whole story revolves around being gay. I mean, I know you don't like Gil. But what exactly is this claim based on? He is the only gay male on the Tempest/main cast. he has no face model unlike the squadmates. Has less content, less scenes, less overall content, arguably has little to no importance to the plot, his scenes are shockingly tame and censored and overall it feels like he is just there to be placate the gay/bi male fanbase. Thus is why I feel he is a token character. The game wouldn't change one bit without him, which is sadly how I feel.
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