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Post by Lady Artifice on Mar 20, 2017 23:58:21 GMT
I think you're underestimating some people's eagerness to attribute everything they don't like to SJWs. I mean in all the reviews I've read no one has brought up SJW's as a reason to rate the game lower I haven't read many article reviews, but several of the youtube video reviews I've seen have done that.
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Post by marshalmoriarty on Mar 20, 2017 23:58:28 GMT
(Reads his earlier posts from about a week ago)
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Yep, I think I said all that needs to be said there. So... DA4 anyone?
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 20, 2017 23:58:49 GMT
I think you're underestimating some people's eagerness to attribute everything they don't like to SJWs. I mean in all the reviews I've read no one has brought up SJW's as a reason to rate the game lower You would think that they have a gay parade in the game if you read Youtube comments.
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Mar 20, 2017 23:59:19 GMT
Dude, yes, this. In the space of one game he goes from a rakeish 'I take it as it comes, I don't settle down, I just do' to 'let's have a kid and be a big gay family with my hag, 22 year old guy I've started dating!' It's just...bizarre tonally when in context of the Mass Effect series. When I watched the 'let's have a kid' scene I had to double take. It's totally bizarre when it comes to ME. You know what it feels like? They wrote a '' revolutionary '' story and put all the eggs in the basket called Gil and called it a day, that's enough for gay guys right? While first, it really sounded spectacular, but the more you think about it and the more you realize this is Mass Effect, it makes no goddamn sense. It's shoddy, it's weird, it's way too fast. You know what they could've done and made Gil's romance THAT MUCH BETTER?
Remove the baby thing, and allocate more time on making Gil more plot relevant. Make the romance feel like it takes place in the world of Mass Effect instead of gay soap opera. There should be some conflict, tender moments, a realization of love, yadayada. Then, the final scene, Gil says '' So, we've been together for quite some time now.. I love you, I really do and.. I was thinking, would you ever consider, in the future... starting a family with me? '' Boom, hearts melt everywhere, such a heartfelt thing to say. And to this, your Ryder can say '' Oh my god Gil, of course I would '' or '' I have my hands full of Gil Brodie, I think I'll be just fine with just you, and me, together forever '' and boom. Amazing, emotional, and a choice that gives you some freedom to roleplay and headcanon what happens afterwards. It's that easy. Exactly. It's like a super patronising, amateurish soap opera that has nothing to do with Mass Effect and supports the idea that he was put in as the token gay romance rather than an important character who happened to be written as a m/m romance also.
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Post by riou on Mar 20, 2017 23:59:33 GMT
Erm... guys? I really REALLY don't want to revive the flames of rage, but there's a new small piece of contradictory info. Sorry if this has been posted before. Will this ever end? The amount of salt I would take this information with is absurd. Mt. Everest doesn't even begin to describe it. What's the highest mountain period? Like in our solar system?
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Post by PhatePhoenix on Mar 20, 2017 23:59:34 GMT
Erm... guys? I really REALLY don't want to revive the flames of rage, but there's a new small piece of contradictory info. Sorry if this has been posted before. [ MUFFLED SCREAMING] what is the truth
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Post by amoebae † on Mar 20, 2017 23:59:35 GMT
Quality over quantity. F/f romances in DAI sucked all the way. That's your opinion. I've seen loads of people in love with Josie and Sera romances. The Iron Bull was super not my cup of tea, but I still acknowledge that I had him as a viable option and that a lot of m/m players were happy with him. Yeah, it's all down to personal preference, but the point is everyone had a choice, and with at least one full squad* romance to boot. There's always going to be the risk that some people don't personally like any of the romance options in a game, but that's unavoidable. The key is that everyone is offered the same choice and the same quality. They were pretty close to that in DAI (the biggest disparity was straight women getting extra - but that's not the crime that straight men getting more would have been, because power relations, etc.). But with MEA we're almost back to ME2 levels of endless tits and ass for straight men, while everyone else is an afterthought. For sure, f/f players are only lucking out because a) asari (who were created as a male wet dream); token full lesbian check box; c) because one writer pushed really fucking hard for it. Was there anyone pushing really fucking hard for Jaal? I'd like to know that. *feels weird saying squad for DA
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Post by Suaimhneas on Mar 21, 2017 0:00:24 GMT
Erm... guys? I really REALLY don't want to revive the flames of rage, but there's a new small piece of contradictory info. Sorry if this has been posted before. EUGH can BioWare just take me out back and end this, Old Yeller style.
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Post by witchcocktor on Mar 21, 2017 0:00:41 GMT
Erm... guys? I really REALLY don't want to revive the flames of rage, but there's a new small piece of contradictory info. Sorry if this has been posted before. No, stop it now. This has to be another '' special bond '' thing that VGS mentioned earlier.
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Post by dhalion on Mar 21, 2017 0:01:06 GMT
Erm... guys? I really REALLY don't want to revive the flames of rage, but there's a new small piece of contradictory info. Sorry if this has been posted before. Haven't seen this before, but one of the first reviewers to claim Jaal is bi turned out to be misinterpreting things. Maybe this happened here too?
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Post by ash on Mar 21, 2017 0:01:58 GMT
I think I understand now. His romance is locked with RNG. You have 5% chance for him to be bi.
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Post by Ianamus on Mar 21, 2017 0:01:59 GMT
The amount of salt I would take this information with is absurd. Mt. Everest doesn't even begin to describe it. What's the highest mountain period? Like in our solar system? Olympus Mons?
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Post by Natashina on Mar 21, 2017 0:02:02 GMT
While I love the romances, I'm not playing ME:A just for them. I'm not knocking on folks for having that their primary reason to want to play. It's just as valid as any other excuse. I'm curious about everything else at this point and just like with DA:I, I'm taking any reviews very lightly until I play the game myself.
DA4 doesn't even have a ballpark of a release date. In fact, they only officially announced it about a month or two ago. However, I know for a fact that one of the devs that working on DA4 lurks on the site. He sometimes posts in various idea threads for DA4. If you're that upset (and I wouldn't blame you,) you could go hang out in there. Just be nice. This would be an excellent time to post ideas for the game.
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Post by DalyaTheTurtle on Mar 21, 2017 0:02:43 GMT
Erm... guys? I really REALLY don't want to revive the flames of rage, but there's a new small piece of contradictory info. Sorry if this has been posted before. Whoever is in charge of marketing needs to be fired. The embargo is gone just about everything has been leaked let the devs answer questions already instead of allowing the story to be controlled by speculation and leaks.
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Post by amoebae † on Mar 21, 2017 0:02:44 GMT
I've stolen the idea from ash to have the † in my name (and sig). It's the new 'aufgestockt' but with 100% more salt.
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Post by caladrius on Mar 21, 2017 0:03:09 GMT
Unfortunately, that's pretty true. I have a high confidence it's not a forced breakup unless certain choices are made, but I don't know the details of his quest yet, which is also concerning. I think Reyes probably has a better "in world story" than Gil, but Gil is more embedded in the main group. But we got two options that are, imo, just really removed from the plot and light on content. It sucks either way. Ugh, another ME3 Kelly Chambers situation. This never would have happened if we had Doctor DILF here with us. Yes, I'm still salty. To me, Gil reads as being similar to Cortez. He's kind of a side, fluff relationship with not much connection to anything else. There's some specific things about his romance that bother me, but I don't want to go too deep into spoilers in case you're avoiding that. Reyes seems like if there was a romance with Aria, except he's a dude.
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Post by pucchi on Mar 21, 2017 0:03:18 GMT
I'm really sorry if posting that tweet made everyone upset, but I'd be remiss if there was something new and wasn't shared imho. As devoid of hope as I am right now.
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Post by Steelcan on Mar 21, 2017 0:03:33 GMT
I mean in all the reviews I've read no one has brought up SJW's as a reason to rate the game lower I haven't read many article reviews, but several of the youtube video reviews I've seen have done that. well there's problem numbers 1-99 right there. I'd recommend Video Game Sophistry's as well as ACG's. I'm sure in the next few days we'll get our Angry Joe review, a Zero Punctuation and the like as well. overall though, you're better off sticking with the "traditional" reviewers like Gamespot and the guys all linked in the review thread
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Post by Natashina on Mar 21, 2017 0:03:42 GMT
I think I understand now. His romance is locked with RNG. You have 5% chance for him to be bi.
I hate this marketing strategy. I think this is starting to beat "Let fans vote for Fem Shep's look" in terms of incoherent and plain dumb.
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Post by byne on Mar 21, 2017 0:03:44 GMT
No, stop it now. This has to be another '' special bond '' thing that VGS mentioned earlier. What if the 'special bond' thing is just what the 'culminates in a unique friendship' thing means?
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Post by witchcocktor on Mar 21, 2017 0:03:45 GMT
Erm... guys? I really REALLY don't want to revive the flames of rage, but there's a new small piece of contradictory info. Sorry if this has been posted before. Haven't seen this before, but one of the first reviewers to claim Jaal is bi turned out to be misinterpreting things. Maybe this happened here too? Has to be, this is the '' two human silhouettes standing next to each other '' trigger thing that the reviewer claimed. It can't be anything else. But I guess the '' special connection '' you share is so strong that some people think he is bi, lol.
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Post by Dirk on Mar 21, 2017 0:03:53 GMT
inb4 Scott/Jaal romance is bugged.
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Post by riou on Mar 21, 2017 0:03:54 GMT
I think I understand now. His romance is locked with RNG. You have 5% chance for him to be bi.
I swear to fucking god if this is bait I will burn Bioware to the fucking ground.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 21, 2017 0:04:01 GMT
The amount of salt I would take this information with is absurd. Mt. Everest doesn't even begin to describe it. What's the highest mountain period? Like in our solar system? Olympus Mons.
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Post by ash on Mar 21, 2017 0:04:01 GMT
Maybe by "fuck him as a guy" he meant "destroy his home planet because he won't agree to destroy Uranus love you"?
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