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Post by Suaimhneas on Mar 21, 2017 0:38:45 GMT
Can anyone please tell me who wrote Jaal so I could check the twitter? Cathleen Rootsaert, I don't think she has one?
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Post by brendanrouth on Mar 21, 2017 0:39:10 GMT
Can anyone please tell me who wrote Jaal so I could check the twitter? Cathleen Rootsaert. She's not on Twitter.
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Post by justiceway on Mar 21, 2017 0:39:22 GMT
As a trans guy i can confirm the way the handled the trans npc was terrible
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Post by zeowik on Mar 21, 2017 0:39:34 GMT
I was about to post stuff about this: (in spoilers because some HZD stuff too)
Compare and contrast:
My God seriously it's like they are ticking check boxes to make EVERYONE angry.
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Post by lauratsoni on Mar 21, 2017 0:39:42 GMT
i hate the fact that someone on marketing is probably already putting a positive spin on this. 'well, it was a shitstorm but a shitstorm that got the gays talking! look at all those pages!!!' also i'm done with false hope i'm gonna eat some goddamn grapes and watch some goddamn hayley kiyoko on youtube. I AM HEALED :hearteyes:
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Post by byne on Mar 21, 2017 0:39:44 GMT
I was about to post stuff about this: (in spoilers because some HZD stuff too)
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Man, HZD was so fucking good. BW should take note.
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Post by ash on Mar 21, 2017 0:39:51 GMT
But that was a custom Sara, xbone just had some bug with textures, no? But anyways all data was pulled from early access one, which was already patched with day one. No, it looks like it was an earlier version of Sara and the people who made the video were playing the disc version offline without having installed the patches. Different sources tell different stories. One claim that it was an earlier version of Sara while others said that the guy that uploaded that vid later said that it was a custom one. Just like "Jaal is bi" situation. Nobody knows. What Sara? There is no Sara. What Jaal? We have no Jaal in our game. You haven't seen anybody.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 0:40:15 GMT
ash I can't deal with your avatar It is so cripplingly adorable and cute and sad and truthful at the same time It is... so reflective of the state of my sanity right now
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Post by Frhozen on Mar 21, 2017 0:40:42 GMT
Can anyone please tell me who wrote Jaal so I could check the twitter? Cathleen Rootsaert, I don't think she has one? Coincidence? I don't think so.
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Post by Luelle on Mar 21, 2017 0:41:39 GMT
No, it looks like it was an earlier version of Sara and the people who made the video were playing the disc version offline without having installed the patches. Different sources tell different stories. One claim that it was an earlier version of Sara while others said that the guy that uploaded that vid later said that it was a custom one. Just like "Jaal is bi" situation. Nobody knows. What Sara? There is no Sara. What Jaal? We have no Jaal in our game. You haven't seen anybody.
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Post by brendanrouth on Mar 21, 2017 0:41:49 GMT
Lowkey infuriated at this Daniel Starkey twink for throwing a monkey wrench in my otherwise relatively complete grieving process at the last minute. Still, I'm not holding out hope or anything.
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Post by DalyaTheTurtle on Mar 21, 2017 0:42:07 GMT
I was about to post stuff about this: (in spoilers because some HZD stuff too)
Compare and contrast:
So this just shows how different the DA and ME team are right, because there's no way the people who wrote Krem also wrote this character.
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Post by zeowik on Mar 21, 2017 0:42:27 GMT
Just don't give his writer grief over this debacle. There's no way she could have known so many other devs would string everyone along for months about him.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 0:42:44 GMT
As a trans guy i can confirm the way the handled the trans npc was terrible I can't see many trans men or women finding this to be a positive representation or inclusion. No one does that? Its different but... one time I got introduced as my siater's "gay brother". It pissed me off so much I introduced my "straight Pisces father" and "straight Taurus" mother.
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Post by Steelcan on Mar 21, 2017 0:43:13 GMT
I was about to post stuff about this: (in spoilers because some HZD stuff too) First Witcher 3 now Horizon maybe BW should stick to what they're best at and stop trying to force things. I wonder if this is just a rough transition, BioWare is clearly losing the crown when it comes to massive western RPGs and I wonder if this is just the rough patch where people have to adjust to it.
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Post by dalinne on Mar 21, 2017 0:43:30 GMT
This Jaal Drama rollercoaster has started to make me hate him
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Post by amoebae † on Mar 21, 2017 0:43:54 GMT
I was about to post stuff about this: (in spoilers because some HZD stuff too)
Compare and contrast:
I'm at that MEA trans woman screenshot... I've never known a trans person to immediately disclose their trans status and birth name to someone they've literally just met. At this point I'm thinking, is this how BW views trans people:
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Post by Puberty on Mar 21, 2017 0:44:17 GMT
It seems like romance disappointment is a bit more universal. My best friend (straight guy) has decided to be celibate in MEA. The process was as follows: Cora: "tries too hard" "Can I talk to the manager haircut" Peebee: the only response I got from him was "not going to happen" Vetra: "I don't feel safe"Keri: "Wank, fake British accent" Avela: "that's it I'm going to celibate" That's the excuse I was constantly getting when I asked guys why in the hell they didn't romance Cassandra. She was "too much" for them, or my favorite; "I wouldn't be doing her, she'd be doing me." Despite her whole entire personality being a hopeless romantic and so girly these guys literally took a look at her and just said nope. It sucks because gay Ryders do not have this option to be oh-so picky. They're stuck with what they have and are forced to compromise with that whereas the straight men can hate on someone for their haircut and choose from a variety of options. What's even more frustrating is at the end of the day, they'll be the ones to have their voice heard. Bioware will most likely add more attractive looking options for the straight males in the next game while everyone else is paid dust.
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Post by ash on Mar 21, 2017 0:45:51 GMT
The Jaal gender check lines are always there and still there for both Ryders. Is it possible to determine which lines of code the first flirt is? I wonder if there's something that blocks Scott that was overlooked At this point I'm not sure. Really. Scott/Jaal present in one file. "rest". I can assume that this is their "trash" folder if not one thing... Bi Vetra is in that folder too. As well as endgame shit (Meridian stuff and etc.). I think we need to summon the spirit of Megamanexe4 to steal some old xbone disc and look again. Or maybe bi Jaal is exclusive content for only one platform. That'd be funny too. ash I can't deal with your avatar It is so cripplingly adorable and cute and sad and truthful at the same time It is... so reflective of the state of my sanity right now Yeah. I stored this catpic for a special occasion. Cathleen Rootsaert, I don't think she has one? Coincidence? I don't think so. She never had one, even when she was the one who finally did bi Kaidan after him being handled to her.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 0:45:51 GMT
Lowkey infuriated at this Daniel Starkey twink for throwing a monkey wrench in my otherwise relatively complete grieving process at the last minute. Still, I'm not holding out hope or anything. For real, even though I don't trust those tweets at all-it's nearly impossible to move on when people keep picking at our wounds. I was starting to chill, now my salt level is rising again. I'm making a promise to myself to just not get invested in a game pre-launch ever again. Well, I'm going to try my best anyway. :sob:
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Post by riou on Mar 21, 2017 0:46:27 GMT
At this point the devs could pull a bunch of virtual party poppers and spray virtual confetti everywhere and be all "SURPRISE! Jaal actually is bi because nobody knows how to fucking activate the flirt option!" and I would not be surprised in the slightest.
Goddamnit.
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Mar 21, 2017 0:46:31 GMT
As a trans guy i can confirm the way the handled the trans npc was terrible I can't see many trans men or women finding this to be a positive representation or inclusion. No one does that? Its different but... one time I got introduced as my siater's "gay brother". It pissed me off so much I introduced my "straight Pisces father" and "straight Taurus" mother. An interaction I once had: 'Oh, are you James' gay brother?' 'No. I'm James' pissed off brother.'
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Post by zeowik on Mar 21, 2017 0:46:57 GMT
As a trans guy i can confirm the way the handled the trans npc was terrible I can't see many trans men or women finding this to be a positive representation or inclusion. No one does that? Its different but... one time I got introduced as my siater's "gay brother". It pissed me off so much I introduced my "straight Pisces father" and "straight Taurus" mother. I'm closeted still, with no plans to change that any time soon (since it would amount to an "oh by the way I'm gay" pointless thing). Well over a decade ago I came out to someone who seemed to be hinting she wanted to go out with me because I didn't want to hurt her feelings. She casually brought up I'm gay in front of a nephew and niece this holiday just assuming I must be out at this point. I mean there was no malice but it's like ARGGGGH. I absolutely flipped out ridiculously but they were just like "we won't tell anyone and you're still our uncle." They assumed I was asexual.
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Post by izut on Mar 21, 2017 0:47:06 GMT
Can anyone please tell me who wrote Jaal so I could check the twitter? I think Cathleen Rootsaert (spelling?) but thought she didn't have twitter Yeah, seems like she doesn't. So I can't who confirmed Jaal being bi, but it was someone from the official (is it how you call these acc in English?) twitter of someone. And this person apologized.
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Post by dhalion on Mar 21, 2017 0:47:17 GMT
I'm at that MEA trans woman screenshot... I've never known a trans person to immediately disclose their trans status and birth name to someone they've literally just met. At this point I'm thinking, is this how BW views trans people: Oh my god I can't stop laughing
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