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Post by llandwynwyn on Mar 21, 2017 0:54:39 GMT
ok, I'm going to sleep. I expect Jaal to be... who knows at this point. I bet people will be claiming he's "fully" gay or trans or an unicorn
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Post by Space Whale on Mar 21, 2017 0:54:45 GMT
I was about to post stuff about this: (in spoilers because some HZD stuff too)
Compare and contrast:
So this just shows how different the DA and ME team are right, because there's no way the people who wrote Krem also wrote this character. This right there. Krem was everything, tru fucking quality. And then there's this bullshit. So sad.
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Post by Suaimhneas on Mar 21, 2017 0:55:01 GMT
Everytime we get a tweet from this dude we lose more and more of his story, I think we might need to accept the harsh truth guys
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Post by riou on Mar 21, 2017 0:55:08 GMT
Phew, we can write Mr. Starkey off: I honestly feel better with this certainty. Well fuck.
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Post by dhalion on Mar 21, 2017 0:55:10 GMT
I'm just going to stick to my first ever playthrough of Dragon Age Origins. Too much pain, hurt and confusion for MEA right now. Thank god though this experience hasn't tainted my opinions of the original trilogy. Still my fave games ever. Andromeda is like the Star Wars prequels I pretend don't exist. Get out of this nightmare str8 alien world and into Zevran's arms, it's much nicer there, can confirm
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 21, 2017 0:55:36 GMT
My guess is the former are ones that can be casual or allow you to romance other people or become exclusive whereas the latter is you can only romance them. Could be, but that seems odd since there are so many with that description, including Gil, who you can have a baby with. Only just above half, so it's not that strange a number. Bioware talked about how some romances start off that way. That only happens if you decide to become serious with Gil. His friend is being a surrogate mother, and if you're in a romance with him she offers to have another kid for you and Gil if you agree to it.
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Post by smellycatbutts on Mar 21, 2017 0:55:57 GMT
Sounds like he wasn't being honest about romancing him as a man. Just like I thought! He played the game, but didn't romance Jaal, was relying on this board's datamining results. Turd. :poop:
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Post by PhatePhoenix on Mar 21, 2017 0:56:02 GMT
Phew, we can write Mr. Starkey off: I honestly feel better with this certainty. Well, at least that's over.
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Post by conanzms on Mar 21, 2017 0:56:05 GMT
Sounds like he wasn't being honest about romancing him as a man. Wait, so his 'proof' is datamined codes??? LMAO he knows jack squad more than us!
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Post by DalyaTheTurtle on Mar 21, 2017 0:56:22 GMT
So this just shows how different the DA and ME team are right, because there's no way the people who wrote Krem also wrote this character. At the same time, I saw plenty of criticism about the way he was basically a tool for exposition. "Hello, I'm Krem, yes, I'm trans, this is what trans means, some people don't like trans people, are you one of them?" Obviously I'm paraphrasing. Gaider went on to say that they wouldn't do it in the same way if they had to do it over. It's very difficult, because obviously representation matters, and it was great to have Krem there. This was the first time they've tried this (excluding Serendipity, and of course Mae is only in the comics so far), and to their credit they did ask trans people for advice before hand. But again we have a trans character, rather than a character who just happens to be trans. I admit I don't envy the writers who do want to get this all right. It's difficult. True and I do remember some of that from the old BSN. I dunno maybe it's just me, but even after it is revealed(which I recall Bull did not Krem himself) I felt like Krem didn't bring it up unless you specifically asked. I'm not trans however so I don't really wanna speak on how those who are perceived him.
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Post by evanaurora on Mar 21, 2017 0:56:24 GMT
Phew, we can write Mr. Starkey off: I honestly feel better with this certainty. jesus fucking christ
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Post by brendanrouth on Mar 21, 2017 0:56:54 GMT
CASE. FUCKING. CLOSED:
Fucking amazingly, this is (by proxy) the first time a BioWare person has commented on this dumpster fire. TBH this is exactly the kind of certainty and closure I needed though so thank you Mr. Starkey the Twink for helping us shut the book on this.
Jaal is not bi. Everyone go home and play some Dragon Age.
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Post by roseofquartz on Mar 21, 2017 0:57:10 GMT
I hate remnant sudoku.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 0:57:10 GMT
Well at least that was the shortest of the Bi Jaal false hope cries. 3 hours and 3 minutes till I get to romance Gil and pretend it's good enough!
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Post by witchcocktor on Mar 21, 2017 0:57:10 GMT
well that takes care of that, back to the salt mines with you!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 0:57:13 GMT
False alarm, told you.
Jaal is 100% straight we all know this as the God's truth.
Back to making formal complaints to BioWare/ME team about there awful regressive LGBT representstion so they finally address this issue themselves.
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Post by roseofquartz on Mar 21, 2017 0:59:11 GMT
How hard would it be to just patch Jaal in as bi like he clearly originally was supposed to be? The code is there.
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Post by zeowik on Mar 21, 2017 0:59:35 GMT
CASE. FUCKING. CLOSED: Fucking amazingly, this is (by proxy) the first time a BioWare person has commented on this dumpster fire. Jaal is not bi. Everyone go home and play some Dragon Age. So there we have it. Official confirmation from someone that can't say who they are. So.. do they have any idea how much stress, confusion, anger, and hurt they have caused with this debacle? I really, really hope someone can get an answer about the "bi Jaal" code found in the files. I really want to know the story behind that.
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Post by riou on Mar 21, 2017 0:59:42 GMT
So he didn't romance him, but he could flirt? And sounds like he wasn't turned down? Hold up. The devs are confused that Jaal didn't turn down Scott. ....So the datamined revealed a bug in the programming code??????
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Post by smellycatbutts on Mar 21, 2017 1:00:45 GMT
CASE. FUCKING. CLOSED: Fucking amazingly, this is (by proxy) the first time a BioWare person has commented on this dumpster fire. TBH this is exactly the kind of certainty and closure I needed though so thank you Mr. Starkey the Twink for helping us shut the book on this. Jaal is not bi. Everyone go home and play some Dragon Age. Delete your account, Mr. Starkles.
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Post by amoebae † on Mar 21, 2017 1:00:46 GMT
This is the most beautiful comment that could have come straight after everything that has just happened.
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Post by brendanrouth on Mar 21, 2017 1:01:13 GMT
So he didn't romance him, but he could flirt? And sounds like he wasn't turned down? Hold up. The devs are confused that Jaal didn't turn down Scott. ....So the datamined revealed a bug in the programming code?????? If so I am absolutely getting my life from this dumpster fire. Burn it down. BURN IT ALL DOWN!!!!
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Post by evanaurora on Mar 21, 2017 1:01:15 GMT
'they were a bit confused, saying Jaal should reject Scott.'
this is............ so messy.............................................................................................................
can't wait to see how they have the alien who apparently has a 'very different concept of gender' (sure.......) pat dudeRyder on the back and tell him 'bro, no homo'
like..............................................
jesus christ
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Post by Puberty on Mar 21, 2017 1:01:15 GMT
That's the excuse I was constantly getting when I asked guys why in the hell they didn't romance Cassandra. She was "too much" for them, or my favorite; "I wouldn't be doing her, she'd be doing me." Despite her whole entire personality being a hopeless romantic and so girly these guys literally took a look at her and just said nope. It sucks because gay Ryders do not have this option to be oh-so picky. They're stuck with what they have and are forced to compromise with that whereas the straight men can hate on someone for their haircut and choose from a variety of options. What's even more frustrating is at the end of the day, they'll be the ones to have their voice heard. Bioware will most likely add more attractive looking options for the straight males in the next game while everyone else is paid dust. Oh no it wasn't about personality it was about the "spiky bits poking out of her head" Ah, you're right. Because why would straight men judge a person based off their personality, but rather a damn hairstyle. I guess it's just easier for them to process hate for a haircut rather than think about anindividuals morals, values, and passions- but hey. Ya know.
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Post by zeowik on Mar 21, 2017 1:01:28 GMT
How hard would it be to just patch Jaal in as bi like he clearly originally was supposed to be? The code is there. I avoided saying this. If the data is there how hard would it be? It may not exist in any meaningful form, without any audio or scenes though. The question is why was it there? When did they decide to make him straight, or is the code a huge red herring and he was never bi? I'm swinging back to the "they made him straight to not weird out the straight bro dudes" line of thought again, which isn't right since I can't make such an accusation. It LOOKS bad though.
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