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Post by BansheeOwnage on Jan 29, 2017 4:43:40 GMT
I've said it before, I'll say it again: I don't want to be looking at my character. I want to see the guy.
We've had this problem with the Thane and Garrus scenes in the trilogy. They might be able to pull off that they don't know how to design the body of a turian or if it'd be off putting to some viewers (they have said this), but Thane's model would be easy, since he looks just like a male human (body wise). I know... I hate these kind of things. I have no interest in seeing my characters boobs. I'm female... I know how they look. I have no inclination to see another woman's boobs.
Eh, is the sad destiny of the straight woman player (and gay male player). I know we don't have to use spoilers, but to be consistent: You're not the only ones, actually. I'm a lesbian and I don't want to see my own character's boobs either. It's just weird. It'd be more like seeing my own boobs rather than my partner's. Yay? One of the things I am perplexed about regarding the Blackwall romance is that the only nudity in it is your own character, naked, alone. Because I'm sure that's what straight women (the expected audience of that romance) are going to like...  ??? So while it would be incredibly dumb and ironic, I wouldn't be surprised if most of the nudity in Sara's male option scenes come from Sara herself rather than the guy in it  Seems strange with Cullen since they stated he was straight as shown in the mage origin in DAO. Mass Effect in general has tons of cut content about straight LI with same gender Shep, but I think they're not related to their intentions of making them bi. The only I'm sure was intended to be bi from the start of her romance arc was Tali, but her VA refused because she wasn't comfortable with it, I think.Wait, really? Don't want to jump the gun in case it's not true, but what the hell? It's called freaking voice acting for a reason! You'd probably be okay with voicing a horrible person, but same-sex content? Nope, that crosses the line, it does!  And you can bet that if it was a gay actor refusing to do a straight scene because it "made them uncomfortable" they wouldn't be able to get away with it nearly as easily. This kind of thing genuinely pisses me off. *snip* At this stage though, given the original trilogy, I think that straight men and lesbian women are going to have the most options. And better ones too, since they may have more than two of the starting squadmates to choose from. We know Scott has Cora and Peebee, and lesbian women have Peebee and maybe (this is speculation) Vetra. Straight women will only have Liam, and gay men may not have any of the five starting squadmates (Liam, Cora, Peebee, Vetra, Drack), which wouldn't surprise me given the original trilogy's handling of gay romances, and dev tweets about how the orientation and romances for squadmates and characters has to feel right, which gives me the gut feeling and disappointment that Liam is only for Sara, and not for Scott, which is why I'm disappointed. Obviously Liam for Scott would be great in and of itself, but also because it would mean EVERYONE has a starting squadmate as a LI. This "it has to feel right" thing irks me to no end. How could it not feed into stereotypes one way or the other? In real life, there are all kinds of non-straight people, just as there are all kinds of straight people. People aren't the way they are because "it feels right", it's just random. Maybe they should just flip coins to determine squadmate sexuality or something, honestly, because it might be better than them picking themselves  If I was doing the picking, I'd try to make sure each group got some diversity in terms of type of character/romance compared to previous games, because then I'd at least be doing something positive. For instance, the first thing that comes to mind is that so far there have been no gay knights in shining armour of either gender, or bi ones. And there have been quite a few games. Can we let the gay guys and girls have an Alistair or a Cullen? Maybe even a Cassandra or Aveline? |
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Post by PhatePhoenix on Jan 29, 2017 7:22:21 GMT
*snip* At this stage though, given the original trilogy, I think that straight men and lesbian women are going to have the most options. And better ones too, since they may have more than two of the starting squadmates to choose from. We know Scott has Cora and Peebee, and lesbian women have Peebee and maybe (this is speculation) Vetra. Straight women will only have Liam, and gay men may not have any of the five starting squadmates (Liam, Cora, Peebee, Vetra, Drack), which wouldn't surprise me given the original trilogy's handling of gay romances, and dev tweets about how the orientation and romances for squadmates and characters has to feel right, which gives me the gut feeling and disappointment that Liam is only for Sara, and not for Scott, which is why I'm disappointed. Obviously Liam for Scott would be great in and of itself, but also because it would mean EVERYONE has a starting squadmate as a LI. This "it has to feel right" thing irks me to no end. How could it not feed into stereotypes on way or the other? In real life, there are all kinds of non-straight people, just as there are all kinds of straight people. People aren't the way they are because "it feels right", it's just random. Maybe they should just flip coins to determine squadmate sexuality or something, honestly, because it might be better than them picking themselves If I was doing the picking, I'd try to make sure each group got some diversity in terms of type of character/romance compared to previous games, because then I'd at least be doing something positive. For instance, the first thing that comes to mind is that so far there have been no gay knights in shining armour of either gender, or bi ones. And there have been quite a few games. Can we let the gay guys and girls have an Alistair or a Cullen? Maybe even a Cassandra or Aveline? Since the leaks say that Jaal is gonna be a romance option for guys, too, (LINK: here, clarified here) I'm really hoping he ends up being a knight-esque figure. From the 0.2 seconds we've seen of him, I'm getting a serious vibe from him? Which is already really different from most bi/gay men we've seen in previous games, if I'm remember correctly. Fenris was super-serious, but, definitely not a knight-in-shining-armor. Steve was... friendly, and good guy, but a non-combatant, so, not quite a knight-in-shining-armor. Also, dead husband. And if Vetra pulls through as an option for Sara, she could definitely be the Cassandra/Aveline-type character. I mean, Turians are basically the Soldier Species, ya? ( wasn't it said that pb and vetra have an interesting relationship?) ( wasn't there also something that implied poly-esque relationships?) ( i'm not saying i'm just saying.) But that's lots of "hope" and not a lot of "proof", so. |
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Post by dalinne on Jan 29, 2017 11:03:00 GMT
This "it has to feel right" thing irks me to no end. How could it not feed into stereotypes on way or the other? In real life, there are all kinds of non-straight people, just as there are all kinds of straight people. People aren't the way they are because "it feels right", it's just random. Maybe they should just flip coins to determine squadmate sexuality or something, honestly, because it might be better than them picking themselves If I was doing the picking, I'd try to make sure each group got some diversity in terms of type of character/romance compared to previous games, because then I'd at least be doing something positive. For instance, the first thing that comes to mind is that so far there have been no gay knights in shining armour of either gender, or bi ones. And there have been quite a few games. Can we let the gay guys and girls have an Alistair or a Cullen? Maybe even a Cassandra or Aveline? Since the leaks say that Jaal is gonna be a romance option for guys, too, I'm really hoping he ends up being a knight-esque figure. From the 0.2 seconds we've seen of him, I'm getting a serious vibe from him? Which is already really different from most bi/gay men we've seen in previous games, if I'm remember correctly. Fenris was super-serious, but, definitely not a knight-in-shining-armor. Steve was... friendly, and good guy, but a non-combatant, so, not quite a knight-in-shining-armor. Also, dead husband. And if Vetra pulls through as an option for Sara, she could definitely be the Cassandra/Aveline-type character. I mean, Turians are basically the Soldier Species, ya? ( wasn't it said that pb and vetra have an interesting relationship?) ( wasn't there also something that implied poly-esque relationships?) ( i'm not saying i'm just saying.) But that's lots of "hope" and not a lot of "proof", so. Jaal is confirmed to be a LI for Scott??? That's great for Scotties but... Please, be bi, pretty please, LI for Sara too, pretty pretty PLEASE  |
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Jan 29, 2017 11:28:51 GMT
I read that too about Tali VA and without proofs I prefer not to believe it, Miranda, Thane and I think Jack too have dubbed lines for s/s romance, which is a bummer. If I was doing the picking, I'd try to make sure each group got some diversity in terms of type of character/romance compared to previous games, because then I'd at least be doing something positive. For instance, the first thing that comes to mind is that so far there have been no gay knights in shining armour of either gender, or bi ones. And there have been quite a few games. Can we let the gay guys and girls have an Alistair or a Cullen? Maybe even a Cassandra or Aveline? I don't mind if Jaal/Vetra are the LGBTQ knight-esque figures in this game because there're no knights in this universe, but if in the next DA game the fate give us a homosexual non-human KISA-like character I will riot!!  The thing about KISAs is that they have to be human, I mean they better  |
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Post by The Elder King on Jan 29, 2017 11:29:54 GMT
Since the leaks say that Jaal is gonna be a romance option for guys, too, I'm really hoping he ends up being a knight-esque figure. From the 0.2 seconds we've seen of him, I'm getting a serious vibe from him? Which is already really different from most bi/gay men we've seen in previous games, if I'm remember correctly. Fenris was super-serious, but, definitely not a knight-in-shining-armor. Steve was... friendly, and good guy, but a non-combatant, so, not quite a knight-in-shining-armor. Also, dead husband. And if Vetra pulls through as an option for Sara, she could definitely be the Cassandra/Aveline-type character. I mean, Turians are basically the Soldier Species, ya? ( wasn't it said that pb and vetra have an interesting relationship?) ( wasn't there also something that implied poly-esque relationships?) ( i'm not saying i'm just saying.) But that's lots of "hope" and not a lot of "proof", so. Jaal is confirmed to be a LI for Scott??? That's great for Scotties but... Please, be bi, pretty please, LI for Sara too, pretty pretty PLEASE The source saying Jaal is a LI for Scott confirmed him for Sara too, so if it's a LI a It'll almost surely be for both. |
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Post by dalinne on Jan 29, 2017 11:32:43 GMT
Jaal is confirmed to be a LI for Scott??? That's great for Scotties but... Please, be bi, pretty please, LI for Sara too, pretty pretty PLEASE The source saying Jaal is a LI for Scott confirmed him for Sara too, so if it's a LI a It'll almost surely be for both.  WEEEEEE!!!!!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2017 14:43:34 GMT
Warning: This post is going to be a bit long, so apologies in advance, and if you'd rather ignore my speculative ramblings, by all means scroll on down past this post and ignoreOk, *puts speculative hat on* Liam: I think it is a guarantee that Liam will be a love interest option for Sara Ryder. This can be almost assured based on the history of past Mass Effect and Dragon Age games, that the starting male human squadmate/companion be an option for players pursuing a M/F romance. I at this current moment in time do not think Liam will be a love interest option for Scott Ryder. The trailer, and tweets from Scott's voice actor Tom Taylorson confirm a bromance relationship between Scott and Liam. Whilst this shouldn't necessarily come to mean that Scott and Liam don't have a romance (or indeed gay men cannot have a bro type friendship with one another), I'd argue given some comments from developers regarding romances and sexuality, Mass Effect's track record regarding human male squadmates being bisexual and/or able to romance the male protagonist, and the overall sense from the game and developers that it would be out of character for Liam and Scott to have a romance given their 'bro' status makes me think presently that Liam is straight, and only a love interest option for Sara. (personal note: my biggest hope as some of you know regarding the romances in Mass Effect: Andromeda is that gay players playing as Scott will finally be able to romance a male squadmate from the start of the game, and this case the likely and most desirable candidate we know of is Liam. Plus, have you seen him? He is beautiful) Cora: Confirmed love interest option for Scott Ryder. There has been no information or any indication given to suggest Cora isn't also a love interest option for Sara as well. But, given in Mass Effect 3 Kaidan was available to male Shepard's, and Ashley wasn't available to female Shepard's, there may well be a reverse where Cora this time around is the bisexual human squadmate, and Liam is exclusive to the female protagonist. (personally that makes no sense, and since Kaidan was ONLY available to mShep in ME3, it would be even more stupid to reverse this) Also, if Cora is also available to Sara Ryder, it would make lesbian women players have two options on the squad, possibly three. I personally don't have a problem with that (as long as I get Liam BioWare) but there will inevitably be upset at any one orientation getting more options on the squad than others. Peebee: Given @daveliam 's information, we know Peebee is available to Scott and Sara. This means straight male players have two options (Cora and Peebee) and lesbian players know they have at least one. (as I have said with this possibly going up to three, since Cora may be available to Sara as well, and so may Vetra) Drack: I am personally unaware as to whether there is a high demand from the fanbase for a krogan romance, but it shouldn't be completely out of the realms of possibility for Drack to be a potential love interest. They are a different series and development team, but, Dragon Age did grant everyone a romance with Iron Bull. I watched both his romances on YouTube, and I certainly don't see why a krogan romance would be difficult to also do. However Mass Effect has a different development team, and there has been nothing to suggest Drack is a love interest at this time. It is also worth noting that in the past three Mass Effect games, not every single squadmate was a love interest. I think it is safe to assume that there will be members in ME:A's squad who are also off limits as far as romance is concerned. Thus, Drack may not be a love interest. This could also be true of Vetra. Vetra: In contrast to Drack, there has been certainly a lot of vocal desire from both straight men and lesbian women to see Vetra be a romance option. Given Nyreen was known to have had a former romantic relationship with Aria, Vetra can easily be bi, or exclusive to either Scott or Sara, though the latter option will inevitably draw fury from the players who don't get her as a love interest, so you have been warned BioWare (  ). At this moment in time I am unsure about Vetra's status. One of the developers tweeted in response to a fan's lighthearted tweet that he'll sue if he can't romance Vetra. The dev's tweet was "Noted"  , so take from that what you will. But like I mentioned before above regarding why Drack might not be a love interest, this could also be true of Vetra. Jaal: PhatePhoenix I saw in one of your posts that there have been leaks about Jaal? That he is a romance option for Scott? If you don't mind, since I was unaware of this, would it be ok for you to link it or share it? As for my own speculations, given the strong vocal desire from gaymers to be able to romance an alien, and of course plenty of straight women yearning for another possible Garrus-esque romance, I think BioWare would be being very unfair were they to deny Jaal to anyone. Especially since he is also beautiful. I think it is safe to be hopeful for Jaal as a love interest option for both Scott and Sara. There, phew. That's all my speculations on the status of the known squadmates. Like I said, speculation. The only confirmation we have is Scott and Cora from the trailer, and Scott/Peebee and Sara/Peebee via dave's info, alongside Scott and an as of yet unknown male human NPC. That's all for now folks! (thanks for taking the time to read and not judging me for how much endless speculating I've been doing here  )
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Post by The Elder King on Jan 29, 2017 14:58:42 GMT
I seriously doubt they'll put two female bisexuals in the squad, 3 is impossible.
I still remain on the opinion that Peebee is bi, Cora straight and Vetra, if a romance, lesbian, or at least the most likely outcome. But I doubt we're going to find out about all three before release.
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Post by Joey on Jan 29, 2017 15:39:19 GMT
This "it has to feel right" thing irks me to no end. How could it not feed into stereotypes on way or the other? In real life, there are all kinds of non-straight people, just as there are all kinds of straight people. People aren't the way they are because "it feels right", it's just random. Maybe they should just flip coins to determine squadmate sexuality or something, honestly, because it might be better than them picking themselves If I was doing the picking, I'd try to make sure each group got some diversity in terms of type of character/romance compared to previous games, because then I'd at least be doing something positive. For instance, the first thing that comes to mind is that so far there have been no gay knights in shining armour of either gender, or bi ones. And there have been quite a few games. Can we let the gay guys and girls have an Alistair or a Cullen? Maybe even a Cassandra or Aveline? , I'm really hoping he ends up being a knight-esque figure. From the 0.2 seconds we've seen of him, I'm getting a serious vibe from him? Which is already really different from most bi/gay men we've seen in previous games, if I'm remember correctly. Fenris was super-serious, but, definitely not a knight-in-shining-armor. Steve was... friendly, and good guy, but a non-combatant, so, not quite a knight-in-shining-armor. Also, dead husband. And if Vetra pulls through as an option for Sara, she could definitely be the Cassandra/Aveline-type character. I mean, Turians are basically the Soldier Species, ya? ( wasn't it said that pb and vetra have an interesting relationship?) ( wasn't there also something that implied poly-esque relationships?) ( i'm not saying i'm just saying.) But that's lots of "hope" and not a lot of "proof", so. Wait, leaks? What leaks? Can you give me the source? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2017 16:33:38 GMT
Alright guys! Here's the link! bsn.boards.net/thread/3634/character-romance-options-spoilers?page=2Page 2 of this thread. Just read the spoilers. Remember this is still all speculation. I trust the info because of their legit sources, but nothing is confirmed until the devs say so or we see it for ourselves. I'm excited too, but things can change, so let's not set ourselves up for disappointment. So far the devs have joked we can "kiss and bang" Jaal, but who he romances is from the leaks, not the devs! |
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Post by fialka on Jan 29, 2017 16:34:41 GMT
Since the leaks say that Jaal is gonna be a romance option for guys, too, I'm really hoping he ends up being a knight-esque figure. From the 0.2 seconds we've seen of him, I'm getting a serious vibe from him? Which is already really different from most bi/gay men we've seen in previous games, if I'm remember correctly. Fenris was super-serious, but, definitely not a knight-in-shining-armor. Steve was... friendly, and good guy, but a non-combatant, so, not quite a knight-in-shining-armor. Also, dead husband. And if Vetra pulls through as an option for Sara, she could definitely be the Cassandra/Aveline-type character. I mean, Turians are basically the Soldier Species, ya? ( wasn't it said that pb and vetra have an interesting relationship?) ( wasn't there also something that implied poly-esque relationships?) ( i'm not saying i'm just saying.) But that's lots of "hope" and not a lot of "proof", so. Wait, leaks? What leaks? Can you give me the source? If I recall one of the posters here said he "knows someone who knows someone who saw..." the sex scenes between Sara and Jaal, as well as Scott and Jaal. And was concerned at the fact that there was reportedly more nudity in Sara's scene than Scott's (a valid criticism, though I suspect that extra nudity is Sara's). So take it with a large grain of salt, because while I trust that poster isn't lying, he is getting third-hand information. However! It does coincide with some of the teases the devs put out regarding Jaal (or 'the Angaran' at least): "ALL the bang." We also know there was a tweet long ago before his reveal involving sex scenes and monocles...  So, I think him being a romance is a safe bet... just a matter of 'for who?' I would have speculated him as a bi option anyway, but that third-hand leak certainly makes a stronger case for it. (Also I won't name the poster because I believe he said he feels he might've said too much. So I'll let him comment on his own if he chooses. If you're really curious you could find it earlier in this thread.) |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2017 16:37:32 GMT
Wait, leaks? What leaks? Can you give me the source? If I recall one of the posters here said he "knows someone who knows someone who saw..." the sex scenes between Sara and Jaal, as well as Scott and Jaal. And was concerned at the fact that there was reportedly more nudity in Sara's scene than Scott's (a valid criticism, though I suspect that extra nudity is Sara's). So take it with a large grain of salt, because while I trust that poster isn't lying, he is getting third-hand information. However! It does coincide with some of the teases the devs put out regarding Jaal (or 'the Angaran' at least): "ALL the bang." We also know there was a tweet long ago before his reveal involving sex scenes and monocles... So, I think him being a romance is a safe bet... just a matter of 'for who?' I would have speculated him as a bi option anyway, but that third-hand leak certainly makes a stronger case for it. (Also I won't name the poster because I believe he said he feels he might've said too much. So I'll let him comment on his own if he chooses. If you're really curious you could find it earlier in this thread.) I have a strong feeling Jaal is definitely a romance for the female Ryder. Gamble liked my tweet comparing him to Garrus and saying we ME fangirls never thought anyone could come close to being as wanted as our fav Turian. He knows what the females want lol but the bi thing I hope is true for guys. |
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Post by Panda on Jan 29, 2017 16:38:13 GMT
I'm pretty set with ME:A romances, thinking of romancing Vetra with sis!Ryder and Jaal with bro!Ryder. At the moment it seems like this might come true, but you never know. DAI sure had some LI surprises for me like race-gating. I still hope this plan holds ^^;
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Post by fialka on Jan 29, 2017 16:51:55 GMT
I have a strong feeling Jaal is definitely a romance for the female Ryder. Gamble liked my tweet comparing him to Garrus and saying we ME fangirls never thought anyone could come close to being as wanted as our fav Turian. He knows what the females want lol but the bi thing I hope is true for guys. And, there's that one too! There's so much *wink nudge* going on about Jaal it's kind of ridiculous that they won't just confirm him! I mentioned this in the Vetra thread, but it's kind of hilarious how Aaryn Flynn's all 'I'm not inclined to speak of the romances before launch...' while Mike Gamble and Ian Frazier clearly want to talk about them a lot! Tsk, tsk, guys... But yeah, I'm stoked that Jaal will likely be an option for Sara (gonna have a very hard time choosing between him and Liam that first playthrough, I suspect...). But I do hope the guys (and girls who prefer to play as guys) get him as an option as well. Especially since I doubt Liam will be one, sadly. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2017 16:55:46 GMT
I have a strong feeling Jaal is definitely a romance for the female Ryder. Gamble liked my tweet comparing him to Garrus and saying we ME fangirls never thought anyone could come close to being as wanted as our fav Turian. He knows what the females want lol but the bi thing I hope is true for guys. And, there's that one too! There's so much *wink nudge* going on about Jaal it's kind of ridiculous that they won't just confirm him! I mentioned this in the Vetra thread, but it's kind of hilarious how Aaryn Flynn's all 'I'm not inclined to speak of the romances before launch...' while Mike Gamble and Ian Frazier clearly want to talk about them a lot! Tsk, tsk, guys... But yeah, I'm stoked that Jaal will likely be an option for Sara (gonna have a very hard time choosing between him and Liam that first playthrough, I suspect...). But I do hope the guys (and girls who prefer to play as guys) get him as an option as well. Especially since I doubt Liam will be one, sadly. If Jaal ended up as the Dorian of MEA I am sure fangirls would lose their minds in a bad way, and the devs know it lol but making him bi would be nice for guys! People are worried Vetra will not be a romance option for Scott because we already have Cora and PeeBee, but the way I see it, PeeBee really shouldn't count as a female option because Asari aren't really related by gender and can mate with anyone or species. This makes me hope guys can romance a Turian like we girls got the chance to do. Verta would be great for Scott! |
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Post by The Elder King on Jan 29, 2017 17:08:52 GMT
if asari isn't related by gender we shouldn't consider them women LI. Which they are. Peebee is a alien woman, and a romance for both Scott and Sara, so she is bisexual/pansexual. Bull was the same, since he's pansexual, and he still counted as one of three original male LI for DAI.
I think it's just better to not not get hopes too up in this regard.
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Post by Talaith on Jan 29, 2017 17:10:56 GMT
If Jaal ended up as the Dorian of MEA I am sure fangirls would lose their minds in a bad way, and the devs know it lol but making him bi would be nice for guys! I understood Dorian being gated, since straight females already had Cullen. I'm more inclined to place Jaal alongside Iron Bull (and everyone can ride the bull), since they're both in the "exotic outsider" category. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2017 17:12:13 GMT
Pee Bee totally counts as a female option. She's a female.
I think it's looking unlikely for Vetra. I think that the two things against her are her reluctance to take the mission (just seems like it's hinting at a backstory that will preclude romance) and the fact that the other two female squaddies are LI's. It's not totally out of the question that she is, of course. This could be the first game where all female squaddies are romances and her backstory could be totally unrelated (like having a sick parent at home or something). But I just think that she's not going to be one. Of course, I have been very wrong with my speculation in the past.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2017 17:12:58 GMT
if asari isn't related by gender we shouldn't consider them women LI. Which they are. Peebee is a alien woman, and a romance for both Scott and Sara, so she is bisexual/pansexual. Bull was the same, since he's pansexual, and he still counted as one of three original male LI for DAI. I think it's just better to not not get hopes too up in this regard. PeeBee would definitely be like Bull. And what I mean by related by gender is, "oh she's female so she can't have a female Asari as the father of her child" since Asari can have a child with any sex or species. That's why I don't count her as the limit to the female LI for Scott along with Cora. People are worried that Scott has too many female choices, so Vetra will be a lesbian or not interested. I don't see that happening. |
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Post by The Elder King on Jan 29, 2017 17:19:09 GMT
if asari isn't related by gender we shouldn't consider them women LI. Which they are. Peebee is a alien woman, and a romance for both Scott and Sara, so she is bisexual/pansexual. Bull was the same, since he's pansexual, and he still counted as one of three original male LI for DAI. I think it's just better to not not get hopes too up in this regard. PeeBee would definitely be like Bull. And what I mean by related by gender is, "oh she's female so she can't have a female Asari as the father of her child" since Asari can have a child with any sex or species. That's why I don't count her as the limit to the female LI for Scott along with Cora. People are worried that Scott has too many female choices, so Vetra will be a lesbian or not interested. I don't see that happening. How so? The fact that asari can mate with everyone doesn't mean that they're fine with everyone or not have preference between men and women. But romances won't be limited in the squad and crew. We'll have romance options in the various planets or Nexus or places outside the Tempest. The squad isn't really any indication of the number of total LI. My reasoning for Vetra being lesbian or not a LI has little to do with too many choices for Scott. I just thought that they won't make all the women in the squad romances, as they didn't in the past. Aside that, since it seems she might be a LI, I just don't think they'd make two bisexual LI and one straight LI from those three. I can very well be wrong since we're just speculating. I just personally think it's unlikely. Edit: the fact that they're for everyone doesn't change the fact Peebee is a woman available to both genders, so she counts as every bisexual LI in Bioware games. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2017 17:23:00 GMT
PeeBee would definitely be like Bull. And what I mean by related by gender is, "oh she's female so she can't have a female Asari as the father of her child" since Asari can have a child with any sex or species. That's why I don't count her as the limit to the female LI for Scott along with Cora. People are worried that Scott has too many female choices, so Vetra will be a lesbian or not interested. I don't see that happening. How so? The fact that asari can mate with everyone doesn't mean that they're fine with everyone or not have preference between men and women. But romances won't be limited in the squad and crew. We'll have romance options in the various planets or Nexus or places outside the Tempest. The squad isn't really any indication of the number of total LI. My reasoning for Vetra being lesbian or not a LI has little to do with too many choices for Scott. I just thought that they won't make all the women in the squad romances, as they didn't in the past. Aside that, since it seems she might be a LI, I just don't think they'd make two bisexual LI and one straight LI from those three. I can very well be wrong since we're just speculating. I just personally think it's unlikely. Basically Asari are for everyone, so placing them under the romance limit because they are female just seems odd to me. My (probably totally wrong) guess would be this: Cora is straight and for Scott only Liam is straight and for Sis Ryder Jaal is bi PeeBee is pansexual Vetra is either straight or bi Drack and Kallo are not romances Reyes is apparently gay That leaves a lesbian LI to be announced and maybe another straight female for Scott and male for his sister Add to the many romances you can have without the crew and I think everyone will end up satisfied in the end. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2017 17:26:23 GMT
Basically Asari are for everyone, so placing them under the romance limit because they are female just seems odd to me. <snip> But why? She's a female and she's available for Scott. So why wouldn't she "count" towards the total number of romance options for him? I'm trying to understand your logic, but I'm just not following. Why would a bisexual character not count towards the total number? S/he is still an option, right? Resources still go into making that story happen. She's still a major character with a distinct storyline. I'm just not understanding your rationale. |
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Post by The Elder King on Jan 29, 2017 17:29:44 GMT
How so? The fact that asari can mate with everyone doesn't mean that they're fine with everyone or not have preference between men and women. But romances won't be limited in the squad and crew. We'll have romance options in the various planets or Nexus or places outside the Tempest. The squad isn't really any indication of the number of total LI. My reasoning for Vetra being lesbian or not a LI has little to do with too many choices for Scott. I just thought that they won't make all the women in the squad romances, as they didn't in the past. Aside that, since it seems she might be a LI, I just don't think they'd make two bisexual LI and one straight LI from those three. I can very well be wrong since we're just speculating. I just personally think it's unlikely. Basically Asari are for everyone, so placing them under the romance limit because they are female just seems odd to me. My (probably totally wrong) guess would be this: Cora is straight and for Scott only Liam is straight and for Sis Ryder Jaal is bi PeeBee is pansexual Vetra is either straight or bi Drack and Kallo are not romances Reyes is apparently gay That leaves a lesbian LI to be announced and maybe another straight female for Scott and male for his sister Add to the many romances you can have without the crew and I think everyone will end up satisfied in the end. We'll have to disagree, especially because I don't think asari are necessarily all pansexual. They can still have preference in gender. As Aria actually shown. So Peebee can very well be bisexual. I also think there are zero chances Vetra (if LI) is straight, expect in the case Cora is straight. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2017 17:29:55 GMT
Basically Asari are for everyone, so placing them under the romance limit because they are female just seems odd to me. <snip> But why? She's a female and she's available for Scott. So why wouldn't she "count" towards the total number of romance options for him? I'm trying to understand your logic, but I'm just not following. Why would a bisexual character not count towards the total number? S/he is still an option, right? Resources still go into making that story happen. She's still a major character with a distinct storyline. I'm just not understanding your rationale. In DAI we had for females: Cullen Solas Blackwall For males we had: Cassandra Josephine Dorian was gay and Sera was a lesbian Bull would be like PeeBee. He was for both sexes but that did not stop us females from getting lots of male LI, so why should PeeBee limit the female options for Scott? |
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Post by The Elder King on Jan 29, 2017 17:32:45 GMT
But why? She's a female and she's available for Scott. So why wouldn't she "count" towards the total number of romance options for him? I'm trying to understand your logic, but I'm just not following. Why would a bisexual character not count towards the total number? S/he is still an option, right? Resources still go into making that story happen. She's still a major character with a distinct storyline. I'm just not understanding your rationale. In DAI we had for females: Cullen Solas Blackwall For males we had: Cassandra Josephine Dorian was gay and Sera was a lesbian Bull would be like PeeBee. He was for both sexes but that did not stop us females from getting lots of male LI, so why should PeeBee limit the female options for Scott? Nope. Their original plan was 6 romances, Bull, Wall and Dorian as male LI, Cass, Sera and Jose as female LI. They went for a 2/2/2 ratio, before they had the time extension and added two. But in their original plan Bull counted as one of three. And again, you're assuming that every asari is pansexual, which is clearly wrong. Aria is bi with a STRONG leaning towards women. She's not pansexual at all. |
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, so take from that what you will. 
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So, I think him being a romance is a safe bet... just a matter of 'for who?' I would have speculated him as a bi option anyway, but that third-hand leak certainly makes a stronger case for it.
