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Post by Natashina on Feb 24, 2017 17:17:01 GMT
Determining a character's sexuality based upon pre-release info and some footage is a fool's game. I watched a few predictions about DA's romances be dead wrong. Like the folks that thought that Vivienne was going to be a straight romance because she fit the "ice queen" trope much like Miranda.
I can say that I hope any bisexual or gay male character that is available does have a bit of the "calm, cool and collected" demeanor. I had a lot of friends in the old Gay KISA* thread from the BioWare forums that would love to see that.
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Post by naytnavare on Feb 24, 2017 17:18:46 GMT
This is my best guess, based on both what I was told and my own opinions (italicized is my own guess, non-italicized is what I was told by the friend, bolded is what we see from one of the articles) : Straight Men's Options: Cora, Vetra, Peebee, some kind of NPCStraight Women's Options: Liam, Jaal, ReyesGay Women's Options: Peebee, Vetra, Suvi Gay Men's Options: Gil, ReyesEDIT: whoops, forgot to add the bi women to the straight men's options With respect, I doubt male Ruder will only have ONE squad LI.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Feb 24, 2017 17:19:50 GMT
This is my best guess, based on both what I was told and my own opinions (italicized is my own guess, non-italicized is what I was told by the friend, bolded is what we see from one of the articles) : Straight Men's Options: Cora, Vetra, Peebee, some kind of NPCStraight Women's Options: Liam, Jaal, ReyesGay Women's Options: Peebee, Vetra, Suvi Gay Men's Options: Gil, ReyesEDIT: whoops, forgot to add the bi women to the straight men's options With respect, I doubt male Ruder will only have ONE squad LI. Yeah, sorry, that's 'cause I forgot to add Peebee and Vetra. According to the leak, they're bi.
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Post by Natashina on Feb 24, 2017 17:23:15 GMT
Our frustration is stemming from the fact that a lot of people come in to argue with us, using arguments about real life gay people and terms that are used to demean LGBT people in real life. Saying things like our sexuality being a "lifestyle" is not allowing us to treat it like escapism. We want it to be total escapism, but we can't do that unless mods are on top of the trolls. Otherwise, we'll be in a cycle of discomfort and tension and rage. With all due respect, it feels, from my end, more like you're shifting the blame towards us for taking it personally. None of us on the mod team are trying to do that at all. However, we can't be everywhere at once, and we can't always stop people from doing this. We aren't blaming anyone for being upset. All of us mods try to do what we can to keep things civil and curb rude language like that. Which is why we when we do notice, we come in and tell people to cool it. Folks reporting this behavior helps a ton. By reporting these posts, it guarantees that the entire mod team can see what's going on. If it helps, I'll be personally be keeping an eye on this thread over the next few days. I do have to get some sleep soon since it's late for me, but I will stick around and try to nip stuff like that in the bud. I also promise I will be available later this afternoon/early evening as well after rest.
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Post by Sole Survivor on Feb 24, 2017 17:23:24 GMT
So, what's the consesus now for expected romances...? Straight Males- Jaal, Laim Straight Females- Cora Bi Females- PeeBee, Vetra, Lexi Gay Males (possibly Bi)- Gil, Reyes Asexual- Kallo That's my prediction, seems to be the average prediction of the boards. Again like in Dragon Age Inquisition, straight men are f*cked. While women got Cullen, Solas and Blackwall, the only straight romances men had was Cassandra, who will drop you like a toy if she is divine and how she is "always separated by duty" if she isn't. I wouldn't be surprised if they give more romances to female characters than they give men (either straight or gay romances)
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Post by witchcocktor on Feb 24, 2017 17:23:56 GMT
Like seriously. I come back to terms like "homosexual lifestlye" being used lol. M/m seems to be the hot button issue lately, and that's to be expected when everyone has squadmate info but them and they have the NERVE to start asking questions. In related news, the info we got about Liam yesterday has given me hope he isn't straight. Bioware loves their straight guy romances to be calm and cool (Kaidan, jacob, solas, blackwall, cullen etc). Liam is apparently a bit of a hot head. He's cocky, can get worked up easily, and sometimes lets his emotions get the best of him. Doesn't sound like the guy bioware usually makes straight. There's a chance! From the looks of it Jaal is more likely to be straight than Liam. At this point I will be happy if just one of them is not straight. Both Liam and Jaal sound good to me. It's a shame that we don't see many other male characters. I would love to see how Gil and Reyes look. Didn't daveliam leak somewhere that Gil is a red-headed? It's difficult to keep track of the news and leaks sometimes. I don't remember if it was Gil specifically, but we do know from dave's leaks that for gay male Ryder.. 1) there's a dark skinned, possibly latino male human with dark, short hair and stubble, and his romance scene fades to black (and if I recall, has no nudity in the romance scene?) 2) there's a pale, male human with red hair and '' Alistair-like '' hair style and some stubble, and his romance scene fades to black as well I recall Gil being called extremely handsome as well, and responding well to male Ryder's flirts.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 17:24:55 GMT
So, what's the consesus now for expected romances...? Straight Males- Jaal, Laim Straight Females- Cora Bi Females- PeeBee, Vetra, Lexi Gay Males (possibly Bi)- Gil, Reyes Asexual- Kallo That's my prediction, seems to be the average prediction of the boards. Again like in Dragon Age Inquisition, straight men are f*cked. While women got Cullen, Solas and Blackwall, the only straight romances men had was Josephine. I wouldn't be surprised if they give more romances to female characters than they give men (either straight or gay romances) How are straight men f*cked? They have at least 4 choices up there.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 17:25:32 GMT
Again like in Dragon Age Inquisition, straight men are f*cked. While women got Cullen, Solas and Blackwall, the only straight romances men had was Josephine. I wouldn't be surprised if they give more romances to female characters than they give men (either straight or gay romances) How are straight men f*cked? They have at least 4 choices up there. Also where the hell is Cassandra on your straight romances for men in DA:I?
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Post by Dirk on Feb 24, 2017 17:26:06 GMT
Determining a character's sexuality based upon pre-release info and some footage is a fool's game. I watched a few predictions about DA's romances be dead wrong. Like the folks that thought that Vivienne was going to be a straight romance because she fit the "ice queen" trope much like Miranda. I can say that I hope any bisexual or gay male character that is available does have a bit of the "calm, cool and collected" demeanor. I had a lot of friends in the old Gay KISA* thread from the BioWare forums that would love to see that. *Knight In Shining ArmorOh yes, I was on the old KISA thread. I would love a KISA romance, but at this point I am so desperate that I am okay with any squad mate m/m romance. We don't really know if we are going to have many choices in m/m romance.
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Post by witchcocktor on Feb 24, 2017 17:26:08 GMT
No shit! I'm going on a rampage if there is no alien boys willing to kiss my nuts. I mean lips.
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Post by Sole Survivor on Feb 24, 2017 17:26:19 GMT
Again like in Dragon Age Inquisition, straight men are f*cked. While women got Cullen, Solas and Blackwall, the only straight romances men had was Josephine. I wouldn't be surprised if they give more romances to female characters than they give men (either straight or gay romances) How are straight men f*cked? They have at least 4 choices up there. They have just Cora, the other ones are bisexual. Why women are going to get exclusive characters like Liam and Jaal, plus 50 lesbian romances, but men only can choose 1 straight women and other women that you risk they leave you for another girl?
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Feb 24, 2017 17:26:24 GMT
So, what's the consesus now for expected romances...? Straight Males- Jaal, Laim Straight Females- Cora Bi Females- PeeBee, Vetra, Lexi Gay Males (possibly Bi)- Gil, Reyes Asexual- Kallo That's my prediction, seems to be the average prediction of the boards. Again like in Dragon Age Inquisition, straight men are f*cked. While women got Cullen, Solas and Blackwall, the only straight romances men had was Cassandra, who will drop you like a toy if she is divine and how she is "always separated by duty" if she isn't. I wouldn't be surprised if they give more romances to female characters than they give men (either straight or gay romances) I mean, this way of doing it gives straight men four options, including all three female squadmates. So I don't get your issue here.
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Post by sageoflife on Feb 24, 2017 17:26:35 GMT
I for one doubt, and really hope not, that Bioware would be stupid enough to restrict one orientation to NPC romances, even if they're trying to give the non-combat crew the same level of attention as the squadmates.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 17:28:09 GMT
How are straight men f*cked? They have at least 4 choices up there. They have just Cora, the other ones are bisexual. Why women are going to get exclusive characters like Liam and Jaal, plus 50 lesbian romances, but men only can choose 1 straight women and other women that you risk they leave you for another girl? So a straight man can't romance a bisexual female? I'm confused.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Feb 24, 2017 17:29:18 GMT
Our frustration is stemming from the fact that a lot of people come in to argue with us, using arguments about real life gay people and terms that are used to demean LGBT people in real life. Saying things like our sexuality being a "lifestyle" is not allowing us to treat it like escapism. We want it to be total escapism, but we can't do that unless mods are on top of the trolls. Otherwise, we'll be in a cycle of discomfort and tension and rage. With all due respect, it feels, from my end, more like you're shifting the blame towards us for taking it personally. I am not shifting blame. I am however saying that if you do take things personally that are not meant to be personal, you are contributing to the situation in the appropriate proportion. Trolls will always be trolls and their share of the blame is not in question. It is always primarily their fault. But it doesn't end there. I am also not making any statements about what should be, i.e. the ideal world in which everyone is 100% tolerant and supportive and no altercations occur. I'm only commenting on what is, namely that if you visibly react, some people will only come back harder. I fully support your desire to have 100% escapeism. However the trolling cycle isn't something you can escape from fully because it's intrinsic to the medium. We need to acknowledge this reality and take the appropriate measures for ourselves, before we ask them from another.
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Post by naytnavare on Feb 24, 2017 17:29:37 GMT
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Post by Sole Survivor on Feb 24, 2017 17:32:06 GMT
They have just Cora, the other ones are bisexual. Why women are going to get exclusive characters like Liam and Jaal, plus 50 lesbian romances, but men only can choose 1 straight women and other women that you risk they leave you for another girl? So a straight man can't romance a bisexual female? I'm confused. A bisexual female, means + 1 romance for Straight male + 1 romance for Lesbian female So, that would mean +3 romances for FemRyder plus her straight and specifically lesbians ones While men get +1 for Cora (That is not standard beauty) and +1 for Gil (And we know how Mass Effect treat M/M) So, if I am good at maths, that would mean, similar to Dragon age inquisition, 5 romances for MaleRyder, and 99999999 romances for FemRyder, plus marriage and romancing the antagonist, I wouldn't be surprise if they give the kett to women too.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Feb 24, 2017 17:32:29 GMT
Part of me even wonders if Dr Lexi will be an option at all. It's hard to believe that there will be a fourth f/f option with substantial content, so that would just leave her solely as a m/f option, but that doesn't make much sense to me either. If there's another female option for guys, it seems more likely that it would be a human woman. Maybe an Angaran woman, but human seems more likely.
Then again, she's voiced by Natalie freaking Dormer, for goodness sake. And they're aware of how upset people were when they couldn't romance Samara.
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Post by naytnavare on Feb 24, 2017 17:33:10 GMT
How are straight men f*cked? They have at least 4 choices up there. They have just Cora, the other ones are bisexual. Why women are going to get exclusive characters like Liam and Jaal, plus 50 lesbian romances, but men only can choose 1 straight women and other women that you risk they leave you for another girl? Hey, Soul Survivor, don't look now, but Piper, Cait, Curie and Magnolia were all bi. 😇
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Post by vertigomez on Feb 24, 2017 17:33:49 GMT
How are straight men f*cked? They have at least 4 choices up there. They have just Cora, the other ones are bisexual. Why women are going to get exclusive characters like Liam and Jaal, plus 50 lesbian romances, but men only can choose 1 straight women and other women that you risk they leave you for another girl? Jesus Christ. Even ignoring how much of this is baseless speculation and outright exaggeration (fifty lesbian romances lmfao), believing that a bisexual LI is going to drop you for the other gender reeks of insecurity and ignorance. That's not how sexuality works. The only LI in all these games who dumps you for no reason is Jacob, and that's 'cause he's a tool.
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Post by Panda on Feb 24, 2017 17:34:06 GMT
So, how many romances do you think will be outside the "main" ones among the crew and squad? They sound like they could easily be one night stands, but I wonder if it's possible to keep going back to maintain a sort of relationship with them. Didn't they hype the game up saying it had more romances than previous ME games? Or was it previous Bioware games, hmm. Found quote: “By my count, if you include squad, crew, and light romances, we have more romances than we've ever had before," , but it could mean either one I guess. Maybe ME then? If lighter romances and flings are counted in ME3 also it had 12 + 3 (citadel). Since our squad seems to only have 5 LIs there is supposed to be at least 8 romances outside of the squad. That would be minimum amount. Some of that would be crew romances, soem probably as big or almost as big as squadmate romances (especially if some orientation is stranded to crew LIs). Kallo, Reyes, Dr.Lexi and I think there was another human guy are speculated as crew romances so that's 4. Would mean that 4 outside of it, likely in planets, I think BW have been talking about one romance that was on some planet. So there still should be quite many LIs to go. If flings and one-night-stands can be counted as such really.
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Post by vertigomez on Feb 24, 2017 17:35:53 GMT
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Feb 24, 2017 17:36:19 GMT
So, how many romances do you think will be outside the "main" ones among the crew and squad? They sound like they could easily be one night stands, but I wonder if it's possible to keep going back to maintain a sort of relationship with them. Didn't they hype the game up saying it had more romances than previous ME games? Or was it previous Bioware games, hmm. Found quote: “By my count, if you include squad, crew, and light romances, we have more romances than we've ever had before," , but it could mean either one I guess. Maybe ME then? If lighter romances and flings are counted in ME3 also it had 12 + 3 (citadel). Since our squad seems to only have 5 LIs there is supposed to be at least 8 romances outside of the squad. That would be minimum amount. Some of that would be crew romances, soem probably as big or almost as big as squadmate romances (especially if some orientation is stranded to crew LIs). Kallo, Reyes, Dr.Lexi and I think there was another human guy are speculated as crew romances so that's 4. Would mean that 4 outside of it, likely in planets, I think BW have been talking about one romance that was on some planet. So there still should be quite many LIs to go. If flings and one-night-stands can be counted as such really. The thing is, we don't know whether they're counting every romance from the trilogy. My friend got the impression they're not counting all of them in the "more than we had previously" statement. So we can count on more than 6, yes, but I don't think we can count on more than 12.
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Post by SaraRyder on Feb 24, 2017 17:36:24 GMT
I've been quite busy with work and studying the last day so I haven't really caught up with all the new info. Is there any information on whether or not Cora is available for female Ryder? I'm going to be so disappointed if she isn't as females have never had a female human sqaudmate as a love interest. Even gay males were able to have a male squad mate LI. As much as I love my aliens, humans are still humans and I want them haha.
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