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Post by smilesja on Jul 30, 2017 23:56:53 GMT
Hopefully Doomfist can help end the dive meta.
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Post by Draining Dragon on Aug 1, 2017 4:12:50 GMT
Hopefully Doomfist can help end the dive meta. I'm not so sure about that. His playstyle naturally complements a dive comp imo.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 1, 2017 4:19:30 GMT
Hopefully Doomfist can help end the dive meta. I'm not so sure about that. His playstyle naturally complements a dive comp imo. He's not as mobile like a genji and tracer. However I think he can counter Winston. A hero who's a staple of the dive comp.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Aug 1, 2017 6:12:28 GMT
I can say this much - Doomfist, in combination with the dive meta, has made supporting pretty damn difficult! I haven't been one-shot this much since before the Roadhog nerf... If we have a Pharah on our team I now try to spend most of my time in the air - it makes it a lot harder for me to get punched into a wall. Not a playstyle I prefer, but you do what you have to to survive...
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Post by Duelist on Aug 1, 2017 10:59:39 GMT
Doomfist is good at keeping Winston off of DPS and Supports and can wreck D.Va but he needs too much support to work as part of an offensive dive.
That said, for Zarya players he's a godsend.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 2, 2017 0:57:04 GMT
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Post by Duelist on Aug 2, 2017 4:46:38 GMT
Still salty about Roadhog tbh and the more I play against Doomfist, the more I'm convinced that Hog was nerfed because he shit on Doomfist.
Hell, even the Nerfhog can hammer him.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 2, 2017 4:51:41 GMT
I don't think so. Roadhog even prenerf can't really one shot Doomfist because of his 250 HP and Doomfist can easily escape or counter if Roadhog can't finish Doomfist off. Roadhog is also a big target which Doomfist can reliably hit his projectiles. Overall, I see Doomfist quickly charging his ultimate through a pre nerf Roadhog. He'll struggle compared to post nerf Roadhog sure, but I feel that it's a neutral match up.
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Post by Duelist on Aug 2, 2017 5:44:37 GMT
Pre nerf I could one shot Reaper fairly reliably with the hook combo and he has a smaller hitbox than Doomfist as well as the same amount of HP. A full health Mei was the only character that was hard to kill with hook combo and Ana depending on the angle.
With the nerfhog I can still wreck Doomfist (the hook combo still leaves him close to dead) it just takes an extra shot. Problem is Hog gets wrecked by everything else.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 2, 2017 6:24:30 GMT
Yeah, but unlike Reaper, Doomfist has a reliable escape.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Aug 2, 2017 6:36:15 GMT
My friend played (and still occasionally plays) a lot of Roadhog, and he agrees that he is a good counter to Doomfist. So yes, I do think he was nerfed so Doomfist wouldn't be considered unviable from the start. They should probably lower the cooldown on Hog's hook again and make it possible for him to walk and heal at the same time.
He also likes to use Orisa against him, fortifying when he charges and then pepper him with shots.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 2, 2017 6:52:56 GMT
Orisa's lack of mobility and huge model makes her vulnerable to Doomfist to me.
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Post by Duelist on Aug 2, 2017 7:32:54 GMT
Yeah, but unlike Reaper, Doomfist has a reliable escape. His escape really isn't all that reliable though, not that it'll help him when he's dead. If anything, I'd say it's less reliable than Reaper's Wraith Form since it requires either 2 abilities or charge up time. My friend played (and still occasionally plays) a lot of Roadhog, and he agrees that he is a good counter to Doomfist. So yes, I do think he was nerfed so Doomfist wouldn't be considered unviable from the start. They should probably lower the cooldown on Hog's hook again and make it possible for him to walk and heal at the same time. Yep. Doomfist is easy as fuck to land hooks on and he fights in Roadhog's effective range. Current Hog is strong against him, old Hog would murder him. Personally I'd like the 6 second cooldown back and for the hook to pull targets right up to Roadhog that way the hook is a death sentence to 200hp heroes but anyone above that threshold lives. Defensive buffs really aren't going to help since he needs to be able to deter people from fucking with him in the first place. Makes sense. Doomfist struggles against long range damage and Orisa can tank his Rocket Punch head on.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Aug 6, 2017 8:18:43 GMT
I was playing Capture the Flag the other day, and the other team had TWO widows... is this a known exploit? Is it an exploit at all? I thought I was seeing double for a time...
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Post by Duelist on Aug 6, 2017 9:17:11 GMT
PSA: It's probably best to avoid comps till the end of the season. So many idiots running Doomfist and most of them suck. Also, Reaper eats him alive. I was playing Capture the Flag the other day, and the other team had TWO widows... is this a known exploit? Is it an exploit at all? I thought I was seeing double for a time... Sounds more like an exploit for the team playing against the two Widows tbh.
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Post by CrazyRah on Aug 6, 2017 15:50:11 GMT
Yeah I'm not doing any comp for at least 1-2 more weeks and even then it will be sparse. Summerbreaks and new hero really scream disaster to me
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 9, 2017 1:52:15 GMT
Without a doubt Blizzard's sloppiest event launch so far. It's not even a contest.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 9, 2017 3:31:09 GMT
Without a doubt Blizzard's sloppiest event launch so far. It's not even a contest. it can't be worse than the anniversary event. What's happening?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 9, 2017 3:34:00 GMT
Without a doubt Blizzard's sloppiest event launch so far. It's not even a contest. it can't be worse than the anniversary event. What's happening? The servers aren't working, either leaving people unable to enter the game at all for several minutes to even some cases of an hour and then many people who do get in are getting dropped.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 9, 2017 3:35:09 GMT
it can't be worse than the anniversary event. What's happening? The servers aren't working, either leaving people unable to enter the game at all for several minutes to even some cases of an hour and then people are getting dropped. And this is happening in Lucioball? Or in general?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 9, 2017 3:36:26 GMT
The servers aren't working, either leaving people unable to enter the game at all for several minutes to even some cases of an hour and then people are getting dropped. And this is happening in Lucioball? Or in general? In general. Quick Play, Competitive, and Arcade are all having these issues. It's been several hours yet no closer to fixing it. The queuing issue I mentioned is literally to get into the game's main menu.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 9, 2017 3:41:18 GMT
I guess Widowmakers bikini destroyed the servers! XD
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Aug 9, 2017 6:06:11 GMT
After almost two hours of queuing I gave up! I did look up the skins and emotes online, and they do look amazing, but I really do think the Widowmaker-bikini was too much. The game already suffers from critisism about sexism, and this is not making it better. Couldn't they at least have given her a swimsuit? Or a bikini with a bit more of just... more. I know some people compare her to McCree, but I really don't think a bikini and huge bathing trunks are equivalent... I'm stoked about getting Lucio ball back though! And comp too, that's going to be interesting! And Mercy's new skin is amazing, I want it bad!
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