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Post by Duelist on May 4, 2018 21:00:00 GMT
Not just DPS players, main tanks get fucked over just as hard especially Reinhardt. Annoyingly, Reinhardt is the only main tank she has any synergy with too. But by far the worst thing about her? Her best counter is Junkrat so more Brigitte means more Junkrat and I fucking hate Junkrat. THeres, pharah, soldier 76, mcree, widowmaker and Orisa who counter her. Reaper and Mei also soft counter her as well. to me it sounds like Tracer and Genji mains are mad that they are being countered by a support hero. Pharah is easy as fuck to counter and struggles against all the healing, Soldier feeds support ults against the healing and armour, Widow is Widow so unless you can hit her head she's bad, Orisa is easy as fuck to overrun for a Brigitte comp and McCree can't punch through shields. Reaper is absolutely terrible against Brigitte comps and Mei isn't that great against her either. That pretty much leaves Junkrat as the best counter since RIP Tyre is still stupid, he can farm ults like crazy against Brigitte compsand he doesn't give a fuck about shields or armour. And no, it's not just Genji and Tracer mains complaining since main tanks get fucked even harder by her. Reinhardt gets bullied by her and Winston feeds. That really only leaves Orisa who is super situational.
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Post by smilesja on May 4, 2018 22:25:25 GMT
THeres, pharah, soldier 76, mcree, widowmaker and Orisa who counter her. Reaper and Mei also soft counter her as well. to me it sounds like Tracer and Genji mains are mad that they are being countered by a support hero. Pharah is easy as fuck to counter and struggles against all the healing, Soldier feeds support ults against the healing and armour, Widow is Widow so unless you can hit her head she's bad, Orisa is easy as fuck to overrun for a Brigitte comp and McCree can't punch through shields. Reaper is absolutely terrible against Brigitte comps and Mei isn't that great against her either. That pretty much leaves Junkrat as the best counter since RIP Tyre is still stupid, he can farm ults like crazy against Brigitte compsand he doesn't give a fuck about shields or armour. And no, it's not just Genji and Tracer mains complaining since main tanks get fucked even harder by her. Reinhardt gets bullied by her and Winston feeds. That really only leaves Orisa who is super situational. Brigitte shield isn’t that strong, under a little pressure by soldier and Mcree and it’ll break easily. Orisa is viable now and can give her trouble and people are anticipating Reapers buffs.
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Post by Duelist on May 5, 2018 5:10:17 GMT
Pharah is easy as fuck to counter and struggles against all the healing, Soldier feeds support ults against the healing and armour, Widow is Widow so unless you can hit her head she's bad, Orisa is easy as fuck to overrun for a Brigitte comp and McCree can't punch through shields. Reaper is absolutely terrible against Brigitte comps and Mei isn't that great against her either. That pretty much leaves Junkrat as the best counter since RIP Tyre is still stupid, he can farm ults like crazy against Brigitte compsand he doesn't give a fuck about shields or armour. And no, it's not just Genji and Tracer mains complaining since main tanks get fucked even harder by her. Reinhardt gets bullied by her and Winston feeds. That really only leaves Orisa who is super situational. Brigitte shield isn’t that strong, under a little pressure by soldier and Mcree and it’ll break easily. Orisa is viable now and can give her trouble and people are anticipating Reapers buffs. The shield isn't a problem, it's the amount of healing in a Brigitte comp that makes it difficult for Soldier and McCree. Seriously, Brigitte and Moira can sustain a team through a team fight to such a degree that you can afford to ignore Soldier or McCree and just take the 4 or 5v6 on point. And Orisa can't deal with a Brigitte comp just rushing into her and forcing a brawl. Reaper gets fucked by Brigitte just as hard as Genji does. Thus we come back to motherfucking Junkrat. RIP Tyre is easy as fuck to charge on a Brigitte comp and it can kill anyone through the ridiculous amount of healing. It's bullshit that the best hero to counter one stupid hero is an even stupider one. Seriously though, fuck Junkrat.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on May 5, 2018 9:50:27 GMT
It's bullshit that the best hero to counter one stupid hero is an even stupider one. But... I like Brigitte...
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Post by Duelist on May 5, 2018 11:22:59 GMT
It's bullshit that the best hero to counter one stupid hero is an even stupider one. But... I like Brigitte... She fucks my two mains and Orisa is too easy to get around. That and the only hero I hate more than Brigitte is Junkrat and more Brigitte means more fucking Junkrat.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on May 5, 2018 12:31:37 GMT
But... I like Brigitte... She fucks my two mains and Orisa is too easy to get around. That and the only hero I hate more than Brigitte is Junkrat and more Brigitte means more fucking Junkrat. Thing is, she helps me so much when I play Ana - she keeps flankers at bay and gives me clutch heals when needed.
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Post by Domakir on May 5, 2018 13:47:33 GMT
So I won't be able to preemptively heal anyone? Seems more like a nerf than a buff to me... And if hitting a full hp ally counts as a missed shot, then I'll have to stop looking at my accuracy since it won't be, well, accurate. I would have prefered that she could heal through barriers. I don't care about the nano boost since I only play competitive.
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Post by Duelist on May 6, 2018 1:56:22 GMT
She fucks my two mains and Orisa is too easy to get around. That and the only hero I hate more than Brigitte is Junkrat and more Brigitte means more fucking Junkrat. Thing is, she helps me so much when I play Ana - she keeps flankers at bay and gives me clutch heals when needed. The absolute worst part about a Brigitte comp though? If you lose a team fight to them, she pops Rally and you're fighting six enemies with an extra 150 armour.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 6, 2018 16:18:04 GMT
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Post by smilesja on May 6, 2018 22:38:44 GMT
Thing is, she helps me so much when I play Ana - she keeps flankers at bay and gives me clutch heals when needed. The absolute worst part about a Brigitte comp though? If you lose a team fight to them, she pops Rally and you're fighting six enemies with an extra 150 armour. That’s been nerfed. Your allies can only get up to 100 armor now.
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Post by smilesja on May 8, 2018 19:51:51 GMT
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 8, 2018 20:21:05 GMT
I bought it. They really put a lot of detail into that skin. Even some of the sounds like her resurrect is different. Now I have Twitch playing in the background to get her adorable sprays.
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Post by smilesja on May 8, 2018 20:29:17 GMT
I bought it. They really put a lot of detail into that skin. Even some of the sounds like her resurrect is different. Now I have Twitch playing in the background to get her adorable sprays. Where can you buy the skin?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 8, 2018 20:30:34 GMT
I bought it. They really put a lot of detail into that skin. Even some of the sounds like her resurrect is different. Now I have Twitch playing in the background to get her adorable sprays. Where can you buy the skin? You can buy it while playing the game. There will be a button that lets you access how to buy it.
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Post by smilesja on May 9, 2018 3:57:50 GMT
"Honestly i dont know how Braindead brigitte mains can defend such a stupid hero. She is like Ana in s3 where her utility kit and healing was just too good but Brigitte doesnt even require skill. The game is going to such a bad directions where low skill heroes gets rewarded super easily while hard heroes gets nerfed or reworked into being easier to play"
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Post by QuizzyBunny on May 9, 2018 16:28:06 GMT
I love Moira to bits, but I'm not sure a charity organization wants to be associated with the character that does crazy experiments on both humans and animals, and is a prominent memeber of a terrorist organization to boot.
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Post by Lavochkin on May 9, 2018 16:43:47 GMT
I love Moira to bits, but I'm not sure a charity organization wants to be associated with the character that does crazy experiments on both humans and animals, and is a prominent memeber of a terrorist organization to boot. Hey now, those experiments could come up with the cure for breast cancer, you never know.
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Post by Draining Dragon on May 9, 2018 16:49:30 GMT
Glad Brigitte is getting some well-deserved nerfs. Don't know why it took Blizzard so long but it is what it is. I'm skeptical that the slight cooldown increase will be enough to fix Shield Bash, though. They might want to look into nerfing its range so it's used as more of a defensive tool and less of a tool for chasing kills.
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Post by smilesja on May 9, 2018 17:44:41 GMT
Glad Brigitte is getting some well-deserved nerfs. Don't know why it took Blizzard so long but it is what it is. I'm skeptical that the slight cooldown increase will be enough to fix Shield Bash, though. They might want to look into nerfing its range so it's used as more of a defensive tool and less of a tool for chasing kills. With the decreased cone of her shield combined with the slight cooldown increase, it'll make Brigitte more selective when choosing who to hit. So instead of ramming into Reindhart while immediately switching over to Genji/Tracer, Brigitte may need to save the Shield Bash for Genji/Tracer. Besides, the Shield Bash is her only "mobility" ability, decreasing that will make less effective in dealing with flankers.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on May 9, 2018 20:57:48 GMT
I love Moira to bits, but I'm not sure a charity organization wants to be associated with the character that does crazy experiments on both humans and animals, and is a prominent memeber of a terrorist organization to boot. Hey now, those experiments could come up with the cure for breast cancer, you never know. On an unrelated note, I'm really starting to enjoy Moira more and more - she's now my fifth most played character, and she will probably pass both D.VA and Symmetra in playtime soon. I do feel you really need to have a tank to get full value out of her though, cramming out a lot of heals isn't really worth it when you can easily heal/boost/rez them with Mercy.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 10, 2018 6:01:55 GMT
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Post by QuizzyBunny on May 10, 2018 13:24:48 GMT
I suspect people are going to dislike me saying this, but I think Doomfist is a horribly designed character. His whole kit is based on stuns and displacements, things players hate to be subjected to, and even if it takes skill to play him his kills always feels cheap. I've seen him be played more lately, and he's the reason I refuse to play tank (not Brigitte) - he knocks you around like a damn pinball without you being able to do anything about it. They really should rework him into an off-tank instead that creates space using his punches (although the one-shot is removed from the punch, so it mostly work merely as displacement).
Honestly, the lack of tanks is probably what is going to make me stop playing - right now every game plays more or less like team deathmatch, where everyone is out doing their own thing and not working as a team.
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Post by Lavochkin on May 10, 2018 20:25:18 GMT
Hey now, those experiments could come up with the cure for breast cancer, you never know. On an unrelated note, I'm really starting to enjoy Moira more and more - she's now my fifth most played character, and she will probably pass both D.VA and Symmetra in playtime soon. I do feel you really need to have a tank to get full value out of her though, cramming out a lot of heals isn't really worth it when you can easily heal/boost/rez them with Mercy. I've managed to outheal a Mercy on the team as her quite often. She's also quite flexible when it comes to healing and/or damage with the help of her orbs which is quite nice, and not to mention she can be very "slippery" for the enemy to catch her due to her dashing.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on May 10, 2018 21:54:26 GMT
On an unrelated note, I'm really starting to enjoy Moira more and more - she's now my fifth most played character, and she will probably pass both D.VA and Symmetra in playtime soon. I do feel you really need to have a tank to get full value out of her though, cramming out a lot of heals isn't really worth it when you can easily heal/boost/rez them with Mercy. I've managed to outheal a Mercy on the team as her quite often. She's also quite flexible when it comes to healing and/or damage with the help of her orbs which is quite nice, and not to mention she can be very "slippery" for the enemy to catch her due to her dashing. Oh, my healing with Moira is definitely better - on one single KotH round I healed over 11 000 damage, and I've healed between 14 000 - 15 000 on QP maps a couple of times at least. She's quite amazing honestly... with the right team comp. Hate trying to play her when the team decides to go 2 snipers + flankers + McCree or something similar.
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