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Post by Draining Dragon on Jun 8, 2018 2:02:17 GMT
Hopefully they fix this before it's pushed to the live version. Moira is one of my go-to picks for healing.
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Post by Duelist on Jun 8, 2018 3:14:33 GMT
Never thought I'd see the day when Soldier became a bad hero but power creep and the meta comp even got the better of the resident jack of all trades.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 8, 2018 7:59:02 GMT
Never thought I'd see the day when Soldier became a bad hero but power creep and the meta comp even got the better of the resident jack of all trades.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Jun 8, 2018 10:33:14 GMT
Hopefully they fix this before it's pushed to the live version. Moira is one of my go-to picks for healing. I've seen a lot of moaning about Moira, and absolutely none was about her healing too much. I don't care what Blizzard calls this, it's a stupid nerf that's uncalled for and is just going to cement Mercy more in the meta (inevitably leading to her getting nerfed as well and a good portion of the fans having a seizure). If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Jun 8, 2018 12:21:59 GMT
Moira's healing isn't what's broken. But imo, she is broken. Why does a healer/support do that much damage to where she can 1v1 dps and even win without a significant effort and have an ult that has massive damage? That's not what a support should do.
So the fact they nerfed her healing doesn't bother me at all. Not what I would have nerfed, but at least it's something.
Again, I'm a noob so, that's just my feelings on it.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Jun 10, 2018 22:32:05 GMT
I love No Limits, but there is one thing that triggers me - when someone is super hard countered and they still refuse to switch. Had a team of two who played Roadhog despite the other team having two Brigittes, three Hanzos and one Tracer. Needless to say they were constantly destroyed but refused to switch. Like, I get that arcade is derp and for fun, but is it really fun when you're getting constantly killed? I tried to switch to counter them myself, but then we lost the only healer...
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Jun 10, 2018 23:27:17 GMT
And another thing I really hate is Mouse and Keyboard - I just faced a Widow in arcade that killed us all alone, turned out that person had similar stats to what the absolute top players on PC has. You just don't achieve those kind of flick shots without the aide of a mouse, and coupled with the aim assist it's just pure cheating to have those.
Blizzard should either let those people play against PC players without aim assist or just ban them altogether.
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Post by Duelist on Jun 11, 2018 6:05:37 GMT
Whenever I notice a KB+M Widow, I'll usually call them and tell the team to go triple tank, Lucio, Moira and a single DPS.
Widow can't punch through shields and about 1000 points of health. Hanzo on the other hand, he's a problem.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Jun 11, 2018 10:42:53 GMT
Whenever I notice a KB+M Widow, I'll usually call them and tell the team to go triple tank, Lucio, Moira and a single DPS. Widow can't punch through shields and about 1000 points of health. Hanzo on the other hand, he's a problem. It was No Limits, there were 4 of them and at least one very obvious M+KB user... it took my team until the very end to switch to monkey, but only two because the others insisted that their Widow was better and Reaper was an excellent counter... I would have switched myself but again I was the only healer... *facepalm*
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Post by sgtreed24 on Jun 11, 2018 13:56:14 GMT
I guess that means you guys are console players? lol Also, side note... played that junkenstein mode last night. That was pretty fun.
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Post by Duelist on Jun 11, 2018 19:59:17 GMT
Not just any console player but the best console Reinhardt in the Oceania region, get at me scrub. /s
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Post by smilesja on Jun 11, 2018 20:03:09 GMT
Never thought I'd see the day when Soldier became a bad hero but power creep and the meta comp even got the better of the resident jack of all trades. He wasn't that good in earlier seasons.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Jun 11, 2018 20:41:50 GMT
Not just any console player but the best console Reinhardt in the Oceania region, get at me scrub. /s Well I play on PC so... I can't lol
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Post by Duelist on Jun 12, 2018 2:09:09 GMT
Never thought I'd see the day when Soldier became a bad hero but power creep and the meta comp even got the better of the resident jack of all trades. He wasn't that good in earlier seasons. No. The only seasons where Soldier has been flat out bad were Season 2 when the Ana/Reaper combo was in full swing and this season where there's too much armour and healing for him to punch through and Hanzo is just better. He's also been one of the few good offence heroes in at least two different metas, Triple Tank/Ana where he was the best DPS and Dive where he was one of the only offence heroes capable of dealing ranged damage and not getting completely shit on by Winston and D.Va. Not just any console player but the best console Reinhardt in the Oceania region, get at me scrub. /s Well I play on PC so... I can't lol Pfft, you're just scared of my battle Mercy
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Post by sgtreed24 on Jun 13, 2018 14:40:14 GMT
Man, I really don't know what to do lol. This game is pretty addicting so, I don't wanna have to stop playing, but at this point, it's looking like I'm going to have to. I'm just so sick of losing literally every competitive match! I don't feel like I'm THAT horrible that I'm the one causing the loss EVERY game. And at this point, I feel like surely it's time for the luck of the teammates to start rolling my way, but it hasn't happened. I'm always stuck with people who just pick dps and do whatever, especially now that I'm in super low ranks. For example, two games in a row last night, I had gold damage, elims, objective time as... Reinhardt and D.Va. COME ON! These people can't even push the payload to the first checkpoint. RIP Now, I'm sure some of the losses were my fault as I'm new and I guarantee there are times I don't know what my positioning should be, or I waste an ult, but I feel I'm at least an average player. Yet I still lose so often, it's so frustrating!! I have a feeling it's because I'm solo queue-ing. So, I guess I need to find a team of people to play with? (But you can only play on teams with people around your rank meaning, I'd have to be able to field a team of competent players in silver... ugh) I placed at 2536 after my 10 placement matches. Yet, I've dropped all the way to the 1500s since then. No matter how good of a match I have, I just lose. Sorry for the rant, I needed to vent somewhere and the overwatch forums are toxic af, so... pass. lol
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Jun 13, 2018 15:07:59 GMT
sgtreed24 It's easy to lose hope, especially after a particularly bad streak. I used to play in diamond, but after the Mercy changes either I got bad or the calibration for her went haywire because over two seasons I lost over 400 sr and eventually ended up in low plat. The difference between low plat and low diamond can really be felt - people play what they want to play and screw the rest, resulting in you getting easily stomped because people won't switch to counter the enemies if they have a better comp. Solo-queuing makes this worse, so yes the best would be to find at least one more person that's about the same skill-level and that you feel you cooperate well with. I wish I could have helped you there, but I'm stuck on console... :/ My suggestion is this; practice in QP, try to communicate with people there, and if you find someone who plays well and seems to be listening you friend them. This has worked for me, and if I want to play comp with nice cooperative players I now have some to choose from. Also, climbing with healers and tanks is generally more difficult, so while it hurts to suggest this - go dps. Lock it and only switch if you can make others also switch to a better team comp. Finally, I'm going to post a link to a guy that's helped me improve my game-sense: Rag Tagg. Watch his "toxic coaching" videos and have a good laugh while you get a better understanding for the game and what mistakes to avoid. www.youtube.com/results?search_query=rag+tagg+toxic+coaching
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Post by sgtreed24 on Jun 13, 2018 15:28:02 GMT
I'll check it out, but I really think it's more my teammates than it is me.
I don't think the roles are really that hard, like:
Tank: block damage, hold/push objective, create space. If D.Va, boost at pharahs. Support: heal your teammates, stay in back line, watch for flankers. DPS: focus enemy healers/dps, watch for flankers, shoot at pharah (lol). Defensive: Don't pick unless you're godly with widow.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Jun 13, 2018 15:32:30 GMT
It's good for a laugh if nothing else, and it feels like you could use that. Just keep on practicing and you will start to climb again, you're still fairly new and some things you learn from experience (where people like to ult on particular maps, what characters works best on which points, when a fight can still be salvaged and when it's lost and you need to regroup).
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Post by smilesja on Jun 13, 2018 16:00:17 GMT
It takes practice to really get to know the characters. You also will have to accept the fact that they’ll eventually get nerfed or reworked so you’ll need to learn how to adjust. I would have to say the greatest skill you can attain in Overwatch is not mechanical aim or game sense is the ability to adapt to a certain meta or character etc.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Jun 13, 2018 18:26:12 GMT
It's good for a laugh if nothing else, and it feels like you could use that. Just keep on practicing and you will start to climb again, you're still fairly new and some things you learn from experience (where people like to ult on particular maps, what characters works best on which points, when a fight can still be salvaged and when it's lost and you need to regroup). Not normally a big video watcher but (I watched two about solider and one about pharah) those were actually pretty funny. Could do without the weird singing (but a couple of those were funny too) lol
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Post by Duelist on Jun 13, 2018 19:08:05 GMT
Main tank, once you learn the role better, is actually surprisingly easy to climb as since there's hardly any people who play the role and even fewer still who are actually good at it at every rank. One of the things you learn after a while is how to spot a tank who's just filling and how you can make said player your bitch. There are few things Rein mains like more than coming across a DPS or Support main playing Reinhardt against us because it means an easy game.
The tradeoff is that it's probably the most frustrating role in the game because it requires a lot of healing and for your team to follow up.
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Post by Duelist on Jun 13, 2018 23:11:52 GMT
That said, if you're looking for low rank carries I would recommend the following heroes:
- Soldier 76. Can sustain himself, run away from trouble and deal a lot of damage consistently. Take the high ground and you win at low ranks but diminishing returns kick in past Diamond.
- Roadhog. The king of deathmatch. So long as you can land hooks, he's great at punishing bad positioning and he can take care of himself.
- Brigitte and Hanzo. They're both busted, take advantage of it now.
- Zarya. While Hanzo got a bunch of buffs that made him OP, the reemergence of Reinhardt brought Zarya along as well and she's one of the two best carries right now along with Hanzo.
- Zenyatta. Discord Orb is one of the strongest abilities in the game and Transcendence is one of the best ults. So long as your positioning is on point and you can aim decent, Zen can do work and cockblock Graviton Surge.
- Reaper. At low ranks, there's fuck all communication so Reaper can get away with all kinds of crazy flanks. His effectiveness falls off a cliff past Plat though. Also, contrary to what some might say, he is neither the best counter to Winston, that's Roadhog, or good against Brigitte deathball comps since CC fucks him just as hard as it does Genji or Tracer.
- Moira. You can sustain your team through a ton of crap, secure kills on your own and have a fast charging, versatile ult.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Jun 14, 2018 14:45:25 GMT
That said, if you're looking for low rank carries I would recommend the following heroes: - Soldier 76. Can sustain himself, run away from trouble and deal a lot of damage consistently. Take the high ground and you win at low ranks but diminishing returns kick in past Diamond. - Roadhog. The king of deathmatch. So long as you can land hooks, he's great at punishing bad positioning and he can take care of himself. - Brigitte and Hanzo. They're both busted, take advantage of it now. - Zarya. While Hanzo got a bunch of buffs that made him OP, the reemergence of Reinhardt brought Zarya along as well and she's one of the two best carries right now along with Hanzo. - Zenyatta. Discord Orb is one of the strongest abilities in the game and Transcendence is one of the best ults. So long as your positioning is on point and you can aim decent, Zen can do work and cockblock Graviton Surge. - Reaper. At low ranks, there's fuck all communication so Reaper can get away with all kinds of crazy flanks. His effectiveness falls off a cliff past Plat though. Also, contrary to what some might say, he is neither the best counter to Winston, that's Roadhog, or good against Brigitte deathball comps since CC fucks him just as hard as it does Genji or Tracer. - Moira. You can sustain your team through a ton of crap, secure kills on your own and have a fast charging, versatile ult. Welp, considering I just saw this after last night's run of comp matches... it seems I went directly against your advice! haha I got my rating up 59 points, but I'm not sure how much of that was me. I just didn't seem to have as shitty of teammates as I usually do. Soldier is my second most used hero, but I'm trying to get away from him because I can't seem to finish people off completely with him before I reload, which loses the kill and they get away. Probably because I'm not getting headshots, which is why I used the hero mentioned below. I used, D.Va, Rein, McCree, and Ana/Zen if I had to heal. I actually did pretty good as McCree and even had a 4 or 5 kill HIGH NOON! that secured the end of round 2 on that map with the big well in the middle that lucio, orisa, and roadhog like to boop people in to. I also used Hanzo one match (for some reason it doesn't show on overbuff but I know it happened as I didn't play arcade last night) and man he IS busted lol. I never even really aimed at anyone, I just shot arrow after arrow into crowds and got so many headshots. Had gold damage that game. I am, however, bad at placing his ult it seems. You'll never see me use Zarya or Moira (outside of mystery heros) though, I just can't play characters I don't like.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Jun 14, 2018 16:11:54 GMT
sgtreed24 I can't remember, did you try Pharah? Because you'll most likely have a Mercy on your team, and with the current comps being popular Pharah can dish out quite a bit of damage, break Rein's shield and disrupt the enemies from behind if you use your concussive grenade to flank them. I think she might be a good fit for you.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Jun 14, 2018 16:20:01 GMT
sgtreed24 I can't remember, did you try Pharah? Because you'll most likely have a Mercy on your team, and with the current comps being popular Pharah can dish out quite a bit of damage, break Rein's shield and disrupt the enemies from behind if you use your concussive grenade to flank them. I think she might be a good fit for you. I've tried her, I like her, but I'm terrible with her haha I'm much better with the hitscan, or whatever you call them, dps (or hanzo and bastion) than the ones like pharah and junk. And at my rank, we're lucky to have a healer picked at all apparently lmao
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