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Post by Voluptuous Volus on Oct 18, 2016 10:14:50 GMT
If you're not going for a speedrun - Geth Scanner would've been more useful And Y U NO RELOAD CANCEL? Nice job anyway GS on London?No! AC is a must for the Plat solos.There are exceptions,but in general AC is more useful. He had 8 rockets by wave 8 and 1 left at the end. Geth Scanner would've given him situational awareness on when to move away from Hunters and other stuff.
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Post by muahmuah on Oct 18, 2016 10:27:10 GMT
GS on London?No! AC is a must for the Plat solos.There are exceptions,but in general AC is more useful. He had 8 rockets by wave 8 and 1 left at the end. Geth Scanner would've given him situational awareness on when to move away from Hunters and other stuff. Haven't watched the video,but i think that he has been afraid from targets.
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Post by Voluptuous Volus on Oct 18, 2016 10:28:50 GMT
He had 8 rockets by wave 8 and 1 left at the end. Geth Scanner would've given him situational awareness on when to move away from Hunters and other stuff. Haven't watched the video,but i think that he has been afraid of targets. Maybe. But even then 3 rockets is enough.
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Post by muahmuah on Oct 18, 2016 10:33:19 GMT
Haven't watched the video,but i think that he has been afraid of targets. Maybe. But even then 3 rockets is enough. If you equip AC and don't use the rockets ,yes i agree,it's pointless.
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Post by Alfonsedode on Oct 18, 2016 12:21:43 GMT
If you're not going for a speedrun - Geth Scanner would've been more useful And Y U NO RELOAD CANCEL? Nice job anyway GS on London?No! AC is a must for the Plat solos.There are exceptions,but in general AC is more useful. I havent try yet, but GS might be a worthy option if you lack an hard skin like me (read go through your gels/ops in 2 waves).
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Post by Alfonsedode on Oct 18, 2016 12:23:16 GMT
Maybe. But even then 3 rockets is enough. If you equip AC and don't use the rockets ,yes i agree,it's pointless. Sometimes, no occasion show up. Still would use them on swarmers
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Post by muahmuah on Oct 18, 2016 12:43:05 GMT
GS on London?No! AC is a must for the Plat solos.There are exceptions,but in general AC is more useful. I havent try yet, but GS might be a worthy option if you lack an hard skin like me (read go through your gels/ops in 2 waves). You will have much more benefits in this particular challenge from AC.The human characters are weak and on London with all those primes around you,will be much better to kill them instead to run.1 rocket on 2 wave and 1 on 4 wave will saves you a lot of time,ops packs/gels.GS will gives you only situational awareness as Darth Volus said.If you try to run,the scenario is as follows-stagger,stagger death.
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Post by Alfonsedode on Oct 19, 2016 8:28:37 GMT
If you try to run,the scenario is as follows-stagger,stagger death. Lol geth, cloak however is helping, and one or two kiting route are partially closed so u might get lucky on those
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Post by muahmuah on Oct 19, 2016 9:16:35 GMT
If you try to run,the scenario is as follows-stagger,stagger death. Lol geth, cloak however is helping, and one or two kiting route are partially closed so u might get lucky on those TC won't helps you much,because you are still visible for the drons.You should kite anyway,but you must limit those "routes" especially during the first 4 waves.Believe me,i have had bad experience with this one challenge and AC is a must.London is a long map and you can easily see the incoming enemies.
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Post by LightRobot on Oct 19, 2016 11:21:59 GMT
If you're not going for a speedrun - Geth Scanner would've been more useful And Y U NO RELOAD CANCEL? Nice job anyway I have to disagree, AC worked better for me, it just did. Don't get the wrong idea about this match or rather, don't assume too much from this particular run. I've tried many times before succeeding and it's the only instance where it turned out like that. By that, I mean with me having that many rockets towards the end. It's also the only instance where I didn't have to fire a single rocket on wave 2 (I did use an ops pack and a gel though iirc). So this run is kinda abnormal as far as my tries at this challenge went. It's true I have a lot of rockets at the end, but that's mainly due to sheer luck and me not feeling like I needeed to fire one at the time which might have been a mistake in some instances. If you look at how wave 9 and especially 10 went, you'll see that the extra rockets allowed me to make it to extraction. So I did not keep all those rockets just because I was afraid of wave 10, I was of course, but it's that and the fact that like I said, it didn't feel like I needed to use them during that match. I was thinking about targets sure, but not only. Wave 10 is tough on platinum with any faction, you can easily find yourslef in a tough spot where using one, two or even more rockets can save you gels, ops pack, or even the match. Sure 3 rockets can be enough to deal with targets, but sometimes it's not. At the beginning of wave 10 I have 3 gels. A few seconds later I'm down to one. Now I agree that GS is good for spatial awareness and anticipating ennemies and you could argue that having it might have helped me save ops pack and gels from the start. That's a moot point in my opinion, maybe it would have helped maybe not. Maybe I would have taken a different route and died anyway, or maybe I wouldn't have, maybe I'd have gotten grabbed by a banshee as soon as I'd get up. Don't forget that AC works on a medium range and that sometimes seeing a few ennemies that you wouldn't otherwise doesn't mean you're not gonna die. Especially on wave 10 and on London with Primes shooting at you from miles away though bolt holes. Also, sometimes, having AC means relying a bit too much on it and getting surprised on your blindspot because you thought you had things covered. I'll be doing the N7 I which is Cerberus on Glacier and yeah for this one I'd be comfortable using AC or GS. About the hunters, as muahmuha said, you almost always see the hunter coming because they usually have to cover a long distance before they get to you and they're usually in your line of fire. Considering how little I've been surprised by unseen ennemies in these matches, I keep my statement about AC being more useful TO ME, might be different for someone else.
That being said I'd love to see a video of someone doing it with GS it would be interesting. I haven't found any, in fact I think I've only seen one or two videos for this challenge, we need more vids !!!
Oh and why don't I reload cancel ? I don't know, I've never really started doing it outside of -adrenaline rush RC-, maybe I've just been to lazy how would I know I have no idea how my mind works !
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Post by Voluptuous Volus on Oct 19, 2016 11:52:59 GMT
If you're not going for a speedrun - Geth Scanner would've been more useful And Y U NO RELOAD CANCEL? Nice job anyway I have to disagree, AC worked better for me, it just did. Don't get the wrong idea about this match or rather, don't assume too much from this particular run. I've tried many times before succeeding and it's the only instance where it turned out like that. By that, I mean with me having that many rockets towards the end. It's also the only instance where I didn't have to fire a single rocket on wave 2 (I did use an ops pack and a gel though iirc). So this run is kinda abnormal as far as my tries at this challenge went. It's true I have a lot of rockets at the end, but that's mainly due to sheer luck and me not feeling like I needeed to fire one at the time which might have been a mistake in some instances. If you look at how wave 9 and especially 10 went, you'll see that the extra rockets allowed me to make it to extraction. So I did not keep all those rockets just because I was afraid of wave 10, I was of course, but it's that and the fact that like I said, it didn't feel like I needed to use them during that match. I was thinking about targets sure, but not only. Wave 10 is tough on platinum with any faction, you can easily find yourslef in a tough spot where using one, two or even more rockets can save you gels, ops pack, or even the match. Sure 3 rockets can be enough to deal with targets, but sometimes it's not. At the beginning of wave 10 I have 3 gels. A few seconds later I'm down to one. Now I agree that GS is good for spatial awareness and anticipating ennemies and you could argue that having it might have helped me save ops pack and gels from the start. That's a moot point in my opinion, maybe it would have helped maybe not. Maybe I would have taken a different route and died anyway, or maybe I wouldn't have, maybe I'd have gotten grabbed by a banshee as soon as I'd get up. Don't forget that AC works on a medium range and that sometimes seeing a few ennemies that you wouldn't otherwise doesn't mean you're not gonna die. Especially on wave 10 and on London with Primes shooting at you from miles away though bolt holes. Also, sometimes, having AC means relying a bit too much on it and getting surprised on your blindspot because you thought you had things covered. I'll be doing the N7 I which is Cerberus on Glacier and yeah for this one I'd be comfortable using AC or GS. About the hunters, as muahmuha said, you almost always see the hunter coming because they usually have to cover a long distance before they get to you and they're usually in your line of fire. Considering how little I've been surprised by unseen ennemies in these matches, I keep my statement about AC being more useful TO ME, might be different for someone else.
That being said I'd love to see a video of someone doing it with GS it would be interesting. I haven't found any, in fact I think I've only seen one or two videos for this challenge, we need more vids !!!
Oh and why don't I reload cancel ? I don't know, I've never really started doing it outside of -adrenaline rush RC-, maybe I've just been to lazy how would I know I have no idea how my mind works !GS ALWAYS helps. ALWAYS. That's not even a debate. Not only in being able to see invisible enemies, but it helps with wall-banging, it helps to know how much time you got before you have to move, who's flanking you and where. It helps a lot when you shoot a Phantom and she cloaks and hides. You can immediately see her and not waste any time in killing her. And by seeing incoming enemies you can hold your ground a lot longer and that means less time kiting, - means faster game, less ops packs used, less medigel used, less stress
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Post by LightRobot on Oct 19, 2016 12:50:39 GMT
GS ALWAYS helps. ALWAYS. That's not even a debate. Not only in being able to see invisible enemies, but it helps with wall-banging, it helps to know how much time you got before you have to move, who's flanking you and where. It helps a lot when you shoot a Phantom and she cloaks and hides. You can immediately see her and not waste any time in killing her. And by seeing incoming enemies you can hold your ground a lot longer and that means less time kiting, - means faster game, less ops packs used, less medigel used, less stress It helps sure, I I've done quite a few platinum solos with GS so yeah I know haha. In fact, I usually enjoy using GS and take my time rather than use AC and go speedrun. Still, it's more or less useful depending on various factors : map, faction, difficulty, weapons, kits, build etc. In this particular case, its usefulness is not as good as in other circumstances I faced in the past. Also, it honestly felt like I was handling ennemies well enough without it, phantoms included, just takes a little more effort, focus, quick thinking and yes a little more struggle, which is bearable if you're efficient enough. Besides, it's not a debate about wether it's helpful or not, but about wether it's more useful than AC for this particular challenge. Like I've said, maybe it would work better for some people, it just didn't for me. I can say with fairly good certainty that it would have been even more difficult for me to do it with GS, because I've tried both several times and made an opinion on what to chose from those experiences. I'd also be willing to bet that most people would be better off with AC than GS for this challenge on platinum difficulty but anyone is welcome to prove me wrong, like I said I'd actually love to see a GS run for this challenge.
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Post by patrickbateman on Oct 19, 2016 15:55:45 GMT
GS ALWAYS helps. ALWAYS. That's not even a debate. Not only in being able to see invisible enemies, but it helps with wall-banging, it helps to know how much time you got before you have to move, who's flanking you and where. It helps a lot when you shoot a Phantom and she cloaks and hides. You can immediately see her and not waste any time in killing her. And by seeing incoming enemies you can hold your ground a lot longer and that means less time kiting, - means faster game, less ops packs used, less medigel used, less stress It helps sure, I I've done quite a few platinum solos with GS so yeah I know haha. In fact, I usually enjoy using GS and take my time rather than use AC and go speedrun. Still, it's more or less useful depending on various factors : map, faction, difficulty, weapons, kits, build etc. In this particular case, its usefulness is not as good as in other circumstances I faced in the past. Also, it honestly felt like I was handling ennemies well enough without it, phantoms included, just takes a little more effort, focus, quick thinking and yes a little more struggle, which is bearable if you're efficient enough. Besides, it's not a debate about wether it's helpful or not, but about wether it's more useful than AC for this particular challenge. Like I've said, maybe it would work better for some people, it just didn't for me. I can say with fairly good certainty that it would have been even more difficult for me to do it with GS, because I've tried both several times and made an opinion on what to chose from those experiences. I'd also be willing to bet that most people would be better off with AC than GS for this challenge on platinum difficulty but anyone is welcome to prove me wrong, like I said I'd actually love to see a GS run for this challenge. In general I also consider AC V to be the better choice, in a solo with a very squishy kit GS might be better for survivability, I used GS for the first time in a long time in my latest Vorcha Soldier solo since he get's dropped so easily, but for the vast majority of kits AC V will be the better choice (kind of hard to say no thanks to 3 extra nukes and 15% more ammo).
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Post by muahmuah on Oct 19, 2016 17:34:41 GMT
Speaking of End Scene make me wanna redo it for science's sake.So i did it both ways,with GS and with AC.The first run was pain and the time was 47:01 sec. despite the better gameplay.The objectives were devices,hack and a nightmare pizza on 10 wave and i finished only with 1 gel more than AC run.I forgot to record the first one.GS doesn't help in this particular challenge.GS helps on closed maps.Primes staggered me every time despite GS.3 rockets more are critical for this combo geth/london..Also AC run could have been sub 40,but i derped and played like a scrub during 9 wave.So, consider the matter closed Human InfiltratorThe_Doctor46N7 |19 October 2016 | 41:38 | London | Geth | Black Widow (v)
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Post by LightRobot on Oct 19, 2016 20:24:23 GMT
Speaking of End Scene make me wanna redo it for science's sake.So i did it both ways,with GS and with AC.The first run was pain and the time was 47:01 sec. despite the better gameplay.The objectives were devices,hack and a nightmare pizza on 10 wave and i finished only with 1 gel more than AC run.I forgot to record the first one.GS doesn't help in this particular challenge.GS helps on closed maps.Primes staggered me every time despite GS.3 rockets more are critical for this combo geth/london..Also AC run could have been sub 40,but i derped and played like a scrub during 9 wave.So, consider the matter closed Human InfiltratorThe_Doctor46N7 |19 October 2016 | 41:38 | London | Geth | Black Widow (v) Nooo you didn't record the GS run how could you ?! <------ This guy though...... Oh just for the sake of science I'm gonna do this challenge....twice... haha that's INSANE. I'm mighty impressed by the run, well done !
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Post by muahmuah on Oct 19, 2016 20:51:47 GMT
Speaking of End Scene make me wanna redo it for science's sake.So i did it both ways,with GS and with AC.The first run was pain and the time was 47:01 sec. despite the better gameplay.The objectives were devices,hack and a nightmare pizza on 10 wave and i finished only with 1 gel more than AC run.I forgot to record the first one.GS doesn't help in this particular challenge.GS helps on closed maps.Primes staggered me every time despite GS.3 rockets more are critical for this combo geth/london..Also AC run could have been sub 40,but i derped and played like a scrub during 9 wave.So, consider the matter closed Human InfiltratorThe_Doctor46N7 |19 October 2016 | 41:38 | London | Geth | Black Widow (v) Nooo you didn't record the GS run how could you ?! <------ This guy though...... Oh just for the sake of science I'm gonna do this challenge....twice... haha that's INSANE. I'm mighty impressed by the run, well done ! Thanks!I forgot to record,because i had 2-3 unsuccessful tries before it and i thought that i've pushed the record key.I have much experience and i've done perhaps over 400 plat solos,some of them were with a terrible difficult,so this one wasn't problem.I've learned from the best(Clusum,TTT,TNS,Tupari,AW_FC).
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Drell Adept TheTechnoTurian | Oct 22 2016 | 21:34 | White | Cerberus | Arc Pistol I don't even know why I did this or why I'm posting this but, well here's a frog solo, I guess
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Post by q5tyhj on Oct 26, 2016 19:28:12 GMT
^ Gigant, eh? Heh...
And I'm with you guys on the AC5 vs. GS thing; I always used to use GS, but these days all non-grenade kits automatically get AC5, certainly if I'm going for speed/time. Its just faster/better for me at this point in my ME3 career. I expect it depends on the player and personal preference though, I doubt one is objectively or absolutely better than the other.
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Turian Sentinelfreelancer_xs | Sep 11 2016 | 22:02 | White | Cerberus | Arc Pistol (v) Asari Adeptfreelancer_xs | Sep 11 2016 | 21:36 | White | Cerberus | Arc Pistol Batarian Brawlerfreelancer_xs | Oct 19 2016 | 17:36 | White | Cerberus | Reegar Carbine - 10 WS (v) freelancer_xs | Oct 25 2016 | 17:09 | Glacier | Cerberus | Reegar Carbine - 10 WS freelancer_xs | Oct 26 2016 | 16:48 | Glacier | Cerberus | Reegar Carbine (v)
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Turian Sentinelfreelancer_xs | Sep 11 2016 | 22:02 | White | Cerberus | Arc Pistol (v) Asari Adeptfreelancer_xs | Sep 11 2016 | 21:36 | White | Cerberus | Arc Pistol Batarian Brawlerfreelancer_xs | Oct 19 2016 | 17:36 | White | Cerberus | Reegar Carbine - 10 WS (v) freelancer_xs | Oct 25 2016 | 17:09 | Glacier | Cerberus | Reegar Carbine - 10 WS freelancer_xs | Oct 26 2016 | 16:48 | Glacier | Cerberus | Reegar Carbine (v) Congrats for one of the fastest solos ever done.
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Post by Smehur on Oct 27, 2016 21:12:32 GMT
Turian Sentinelfreelancer_xs | Sep 11 2016 | 22:02 | White | Cerberus | Arc Pistol (v) Asari Adeptfreelancer_xs | Sep 11 2016 | 21:36 | White | Cerberus | Arc Pistol Batarian Brawlerfreelancer_xs | Oct 19 2016 | 17:36 | White | Cerberus | Reegar Carbine - 10 WS (v) freelancer_xs | Oct 25 2016 | 17:09 | Glacier | Cerberus | Reegar Carbine - 10 WS freelancer_xs | Oct 26 2016 | 16:48 | Glacier | Cerberus | Reegar Carbine (v) Welcome back to the PHOF! Hats off for your batguard runs, it's not a kit we often see here, and especially with such amazing times! Impressive stuff. I have to ask, though: since all the objectives in the two batguard videos were pizza - did you mod the objectives? Or was it mad luck - or a mad amount of grinding? Mods are ok, btw, they don't disqualify the submissions or anything. We just like to know about them, mostly for science.
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Post by freelancer on Oct 28, 2016 18:30:31 GMT
Thanks! I'm sure this batarian can run faster. I'll give him a rest for two or three weeks and then I'll try again. Thanks! These batarians tried very hard! Regarding objectives. On White - not modded. It wasn’t necessary because I haven’t noticed difference on wavetime between pizzawave, dronwave and even hackwave playing for batarians. On White is just a coincidence that my best time achieved by triple pizza. On Glacier the time difference between the different types of objective waves is very palpable. At least for me. So objectives on Glacier were modded. IMHO, on this map It’s the only way to the fastest possible time. P.S. Sorry for abracadabra in this post.
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