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Post by mordokai on Jan 28, 2017 7:43:20 GMT
30 FPS like consoles is just fail... I resent that remark, sir! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 9:38:39 GMT
Hey guys, I'm back in the game! Took me two months to replace my defect five year old laptop with my new machine and now I'm wondering about the optimal framerate for a nice push before Andromeda comes out, because enemies seem way more accurate on this new PC. Do you guys play on the highest possible rate you can or have you tinkered to find an optimal framerate for your style of play? On another note: what did I miss?  Of course I still lurked a bit, but any particular highlights lately? Hey! Welcome back.
My advice is to avoid a to high frame rate, the game becomes way more difficult the higher you go (don't go over 60 FPS imo).
The difference between 30 FPS on a console and 60+ FPS on PC is significant (especially for Geth), if you go above 60 be prepared to spam medi gels. The enemy AI scales with FPS, on 30 FPS it's kind of slow and misses you a lot, on higher FPS they will hit you even while running pretty much every single time.
It's true that the Reegar does more dmg the higher you go, but that's pretty much the only benefit you get, from all other perspectives it just gets more difficult.
But movements are also better decomposed at 60 fps so enemies are easier to aim at. I always find ennemies look slow on PC, especially Dragoons. I don't know how it is to play at 60 fps, but definitely don't select 30 fps traks, it's a pain. |
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Post by muahmuah on Jan 28, 2017 12:30:52 GMT
Hey guys, I'm back in the game! Took me two months to replace my defect five year old laptop with my new machine and now I'm wondering about the optimal framerate for a nice push before Andromeda comes out, because enemies seem way more accurate on this new PC. Do you guys play on the highest possible rate you can or have you tinkered to find an optimal framerate for your style of play? On another note: what did I miss? Of course I still lurked a bit, but any particular highlights lately? I think that you can go above 60 FPS,only if you have 120Hz, 144Hz, 160Hz, 165Hz, 180Hz, 200Hz or 240Hz monitor,otherwise you can't,no matter what configuration you have.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 15:48:12 GMT
Hey guys, I'm back in the game! Took me two months to replace my defect five year old laptop with my new machine and now I'm wondering about the optimal framerate for a nice push before Andromeda comes out, because enemies seem way more accurate on this new PC. Do you guys play on the highest possible rate you can or have you tinkered to find an optimal framerate for your style of play? On another note: what did I miss? Of course I still lurked a bit, but any particular highlights lately? Highlights you may have missed: there was a point when people posted six glorious turian solos in a row to this thread |
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Post by patrickbateman on Jan 28, 2017 16:53:16 GMT
30 FPS like consoles is just fail... I resent that remark, sir! It's just my personal opinion, the game just feels a bit smother at higher FPS, when I first played this game on an older PC it had a low frame rate, when I switched to a new one a few years ago with high FPS the game just feelt a lot better to play. |
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Post by patrickbateman on Jan 28, 2017 16:55:11 GMT
Hey! Welcome back.
My advice is to avoid a to high frame rate, the game becomes way more difficult the higher you go (don't go over 60 FPS imo).
The difference between 30 FPS on a console and 60+ FPS on PC is significant (especially for Geth), if you go above 60 be prepared to spam medi gels. The enemy AI scales with FPS, on 30 FPS it's kind of slow and misses you a lot, on higher FPS they will hit you even while running pretty much every single time.
It's true that the Reegar does more dmg the higher you go, but that's pretty much the only benefit you get, from all other perspectives it just gets more difficult.
But movements are also better decomposed at 60 fps so enemies are easier to aim at. I always find ennemies look slow on PC, especially Dragoons. I don't know how it is to play at 60 fps, but definitely don't select 30 fps traks, it's a pain. Not to start another PC vs console debate (I Think we are past that years back), but I'd also say that playing the game with a game pad also balance the difficulty level as you can't do the same things you can do with mouse + keyboard (much easier head shots, better and faster movments and aiming etc). |
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Post by Lvca on Jan 28, 2017 17:48:00 GMT
Hey guys, I'm back in the game! Took me two months to replace my defect five year old laptop with my new machine and now I'm wondering about the optimal framerate for a nice push before Andromeda comes out, because enemies seem way more accurate on this new PC. Do you guys play on the highest possible rate you can or have you tinkered to find an optimal framerate for your style of play? On another note: what did I miss? Of course I still lurked a bit, but any particular highlights lately? I think that you can go above 60 FPS,only if you have 120Hz, 144Hz, 160Hz, 165Hz, 180Hz, 200Hz or 240Hz monitor,otherwise you can't,no matter what configuration you have. It's limited by the engine, so unless you tweak your coalesced it won't go above 60 FPS, no matter what your display's refresh rate is. Edit: and pretty sure you can choose more than 60FPS even if your monitor isn't that fast. The difficulty will be increased but the visuals will not. |
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Post by muahmuah on Jan 28, 2017 20:13:01 GMT
I think that you can go above 60 FPS,only if you have 120Hz, 144Hz, 160Hz, 165Hz, 180Hz, 200Hz or 240Hz monitor,otherwise you can't,no matter what configuration you have. It's limited by the engine, so unless you tweak your coalesced it won't go above 60 FPS, no matter what your display's refresh rate is. Edit: and pretty sure you can choose more than 60FPS even if your monitor isn't that fast. The difficulty will be increased but the visuals will not. It's easy.Just copy/paste two lines in the configuration file and you will be able to go 120 or more.I am not sure how much exactly. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 21:49:07 GMT
I think that you can go above 60 FPS,only if you have 120Hz, 144Hz, 160Hz, 165Hz, 180Hz, 200Hz or 240Hz monitor,otherwise you can't,no matter what configuration you have. It's limited by the engine, so unless you tweak your coalesced it won't go above 60 FPS, no matter what your display's refresh rate is. Edit: and pretty sure you can choose more than 60FPS even if your monitor isn't that fast. The difficulty will be increased but the visuals will not. You can, it just causes noticeable screen-tearing. |
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Post by muahmuah on Jan 28, 2017 22:00:42 GMT
It's limited by the engine, so unless you tweak your coalesced it won't go above 60 FPS, no matter what your display's refresh rate is. Edit: and pretty sure you can choose more than 60FPS even if your monitor isn't that fast. The difficulty will be increased but the visuals will not. You can, it just causes noticeable screen-tearing. My monitor is only 60hz,so i will make that experiment.Will set the fps at 120 and will report back,but tomorrow. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 22:53:44 GMT
You can, it just causes noticeable screen-tearing. My monitor is only 60hz,so i will make that experiment.Will set the fps at 120 and will report back,but tomorrow. I only use a 60hz monitor myself, 'cuz I'm cheap. You've just got to turn off vsync, otherwise it doesn't work. In other words add this to the config file: MaxSmoothedFrameRate=120
UseVSync=False (with the fraps counter) I hate doing it, not because of the increased enemy accuracy but because seeing screen tears distracts me from the fat turian and drives me nuts |
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Post by Alfonsedode on Jan 29, 2017 7:09:29 GMT
i think you enjoy more controll @60fps, so i wld stay there if i were u. Moreover, when u were offhost, u already dealt with 60 FPS AI, with your 30 fps laptop so ...
Smooth is really cool too.
Tried 60 FPS 1080p last we and it was glorious. I failed to adapt to the new mouse + KB though in 30 min.
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Post by Smehur on Jan 29, 2017 13:41:36 GMT
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Aragorn89 | January 22 2017 | 132:46 | Giant | Reapers | Geth Plasma Shotgun/CarnifexMy first ever completed Platinum solo. Welcome to the PHOF! |
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Post by muahmuah on Jan 29, 2017 15:34:57 GMT
Geth InfiltratorThe_Doctor46N7 | 29 January 2017 | 18:35 | White | Cerberus | Crusader 10WS (v) modded for pizza,escort or hacks Noticed that i have 29 posted sub 20 runs,so i decided to grind for 30th,but i got only bad objectives and since wasn't in mood for grind i modded the objectives. So 30  EDIT:tried on 120 fps,and yes there isn't difference in the visuals,but reegr's damage is just ridiculous.I assume on 120 or more hz monitors the difference is noticeable.
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Post by Alfonsedode on Jan 29, 2017 19:29:01 GMT
Geth InfiltratorThe_Doctor46N7 | 29 January 2017 | 18:35 | White | Cerberus | Crusader 10WS (v) modded for pizza,escort or hacks Noticed that i have 29 posted sub 20 runs,so i decided to grind for 30th,but i got only bad objectives and since wasn't in mood for grind i modded the objectives. So 30 EDIT:tried on 120 fps,and yes there isn't difference in the visuals,but reegr's damage is just ridiculous.I assume on 120 or more hz monitors the difference noticeable. NIce colors ! |
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Post by muahmuah on Jan 29, 2017 19:41:36 GMT
Geth InfiltratorThe_Doctor46N7 | 29 January 2017 | 18:35 | White | Cerberus | Crusader 10WS (v) modded for pizza,escort or hacks Noticed that i have 29 posted sub 20 runs,so i decided to grind for 30th,but i got only bad objectives and since wasn't in mood for grind i modded the objectives. So 30 EDIT:tried on 120 fps,and yes there isn't difference in the visuals,but reegr's damage is just ridiculous.I assume on 120 or more hz monitors the difference noticeable. NIce colors ! You mean my GI? |
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Post by Alfonsedode on Jan 29, 2017 21:34:24 GMT
yep. Is AI far more fast/accurate at 120 fps ? BAtguard reegar at 120 could sub16 ? |
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Post by muahmuah on Jan 29, 2017 21:39:30 GMT
yep. Is AI far more fast/accurate at 120 fps ? BAtguard reegar at 120 could sub16 ? At 120 fps reegar deals more damage,so everything is possible,but not only batguard.Sub 16 is possible at 60 fps.Note that at 120 fps the difficult is higher. |
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Post by docsteely on Jan 30, 2017 12:46:03 GMT
At 120 fps reegar deals more damage,so everything is possible,but not only batguard.Sub 16 is possible at 60 fps.Note that at 120 fps the difficult is higher. Unrelated, Doc, but why didn't you post your Diamond solo? It would be very interesting to see if other solo masters feel like doing it. |
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Post by muahmuah on Jan 30, 2017 13:21:12 GMT
At 120 fps reegar deals more damage,so everything is possible,but not only batguard.Sub 16 is possible at 60 fps.Note that at 120 fps the difficult is higher. Unrelated, Doc, but why didn't you post your Diamond solo? It would be very interesting to see if other solo masters feel like doing it. It's not a regular Plat run and i wasn't sure if PHoF will accept that run.Also i am not satisfied with the time. Had a much faster run with GTS+cheesgar,but didn't record it.I am pretty sure that some of the soloers already done a diamond solo. |
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Post by Filippopotame on Jan 30, 2017 13:21:46 GMT
At 120 fps reegar deals more damage,so everything is possible,but not only batguard.Sub 16 is possible at 60 fps.Note that at 120 fps the difficult is higher. Unrelated, Doc, but why didn't you post your Diamond solo? It would be very interesting to see if other solo masters feel like doing it. Yes, it's an interesting challenge. I am a good friend of Kami-Sama, author of the mode and had lots of discussions about how to balance the it. We didn't want it to be only HP spam, his goal was to force you to play better as a team and make things less forgiving. So compared to other mods it focuses more on boosting special abilities of ennemies (grab chance for instance, or pets duration) rather than hp and damage, to make it less forgiving. Long story short, congrats for your solos, currently there was only one in this tier, with AIU reegar. |
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Post by muahmuah on Jan 30, 2017 13:37:51 GMT
Unrelated, Doc, but why didn't you post your Diamond solo? It would be very interesting to see if other solo masters feel like doing it. Yes, it's an interesting challenge. I am a good friend of Kami-Sama, author of the mode and had lots of discussions about how to balance the it. We didn't want it to be only HP spam, his goal was to force you to play better as a team and make things less forgiving. So compared to other mods it focuses more on boosting special abilities of ennemies (grab chance for instance, or pets duration) rather than hp and damage, to make it less forgiving. Long story short, congrats for your solos, currently there was only one in this tier, with AIU reegar. As i said i did one diamond run on white with a much better time ,but wasn't fun.Everywhere turets,the enemies were tooo much.The most interesting thing is that the first waves were much harder than the later waves.8 and 9 waves are mainly bosses waves,so i nuked them out.Hunters shot without delay wtf?That mod is not balanced for solo.For team game will be interesting,tho. |
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Post by muahmuah on Jan 30, 2017 13:45:08 GMT
I forgot to mention,but i had to shot and shot and shot just to kill an atlas with DAI+BW and mine spam.Toooo much sheld and armor.What will be if you play with a worse weapon and/or character?
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Post by Alfonsedode on Jan 30, 2017 17:18:30 GMT
i sure wld be willing to watch any enhanced plat solos, even only 120 fps ones.
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Post by Filippopotame on Jan 30, 2017 18:27:41 GMT
I forgot to mention,but i had to shot and shot and shot just to kill an atlas with DAI+BW and mine spam.Toooo much sheld and armor.What will be if you play with a worse weapon and/or character? It's clearly designed for a team. The turrets thing (it wasn't my choice) was designed to force you to kill them instead of waiting for them to disappear. In my opinion, just making them not explode after some time would have been enough and there was no need to make them spawn anywhere, but yeah, it's not my mod |
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