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Post by heindrich on Mar 8, 2017 6:06:42 GMT
Ouch, I think I just hit my first brick wall in DAO that I'll probably just have to come back to later.
So, yeah... Flemeth... Dragon... looks epic, utterly deadly.
My party is lv11 with Arcane Warrior PC, Leliana, Shale and Alistair. (Shale is a substitute for Morrigan, who can't actually be in that fight.) My melee fighters can barely get a hit in with the constant knock backs and stuns... Is there any trick to beating this that I'm missing?
Judging by the conversation choices, I could avoid the fight, but I don't want to lie to Morrigan, so if I can't beat this now, I'll leave and try again later, much later...
I guess it makes sense for Flemeth to be so powerful, given the backstory. lol
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Post by adrianbc on Mar 8, 2017 7:27:34 GMT
Ouch, I think I just hit my first brick wall in DAO that I'll probably just have to come back to later. So, yeah... Flemeth... Dragon... looks epic, utterly deadly. My party is lv11 with Arcane Warrior PC, Leliana, Shale and Alistair. (Shale is a substitute for Morrigan, who can't actually be in that fight.) My melee fighters can barely get a hit in with the constant knock backs and stuns... Is there any trick to beating this that I'm missing? Judging by the conversation choices, I could avoid the fight, but I don't want to lie to Morrigan, so if I can't beat this now, I'll leave and try again later, much later... I guess it makes sense for Flemeth to be so powerful, given the backstory. lol I never tried to fight Flemeth in melee. DA:O has similar options as BG for both melee and ranged weapons for the protagonist and companions. Since Flemeth is not moving or flying, it`s not that difficult to win the battle from distance. Also, you need some healing potions AND logically some fire protection on every party member, since Flemeth`s main attack is fire - greater warmth balm is perfect, but also lesser warmth balm is helpful. If the fight is still too hard, try lower the difficulty to easy, or wait until you reach level 14 and have a second specialization for some key party members, including your Arcane Warrior. You don`t have any time limit for this battle. It can be done later, with no consequences. Most DA:O quests have no time limits, similar to BG. There are only a few exceptions, and this is not one.
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Post by mousestalker on Mar 8, 2017 12:32:23 GMT
Shale does quite well in this fight as Shale can not grabbed and tossed about. Equip Shale with the best large flame crystals you can get. Set Shale's tactics to Stoneheart and to use taunt, bellow and stone roar on Flemeth whenever possible. The warmth balms are also handy in this context. Also, sort through your gear and see what is fire resistant. Use that. This may seem counter intuitive, but only send Shale in as melee. Everyone else should poke the dragon from range. Spread them out so one blast can't hit everyone. There is a somewhat cheesy move that you may use with your mages and archers. The battle area is on a slight plateau. There is an area before you get to Flemeth's hut where there is a small cliff or rise. If you park yourselves below the rise you will find spots where you may shoot Flemeth, but she can not pull you towards her. I do not think it is an exploit as it is a trick that is blatantly obvious in a later dragon fight where it pays off quite well. If you have Wynne, you may want to consider bringing her instead of Alistair or use Zevran as a back up archer. Archers can use ice arrows. Actually any sort of specialty arrow (other than fire) work well here.
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Post by heindrich on Mar 9, 2017 2:04:17 GMT
Oh dear, I fear I may have encountered a more serious issue... My game has been crashing quite frequently, particularly when I tab out of it for whatever reason. I did some googling and found out about the Set Affinity thing, which seems to have made it better. Either way, it wasn't a serious issue, I just made sure I saved regularly. Anyway earlier today I got to Denerim Market, I noticed a significant fps drop. I tweaked with graphics a little, it wasn't ideal, but it was perfectly playable. Anyway I had an encounter with an idiot knight who demanded a duel, and I made a save before the duel, and then won the duel, saved and quit for the session... Now I cannot load either of those saves. I have no idea why, the game just crashes from the loading screen. I hadn't done much in Denerim so far, so I could go back to an earlier save and do that part again, but I don't understand what went wrong, and it undermines my confidence in the stability of the game as a whole. Anyone else experienced this problem too? ps: I have DAO: Ultimate Edition from Steam. I have registered both game codes and enabled all DLCs, and my only mod is the no helmet mod from Nexus.
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Post by mousestalker on Mar 9, 2017 2:34:10 GMT
How long had you been playing when it crashed?
There is a known issue with a 'memory leak' (for lack of a better term). Long play sessions tend to crash.
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Post by heindrich on Mar 9, 2017 2:56:23 GMT
How long had you been playing when it crashed? There is a known issue with a 'memory leak' (for lack of a better term). Long play sessions tend to crash. Well the main problem is not the crashes, but rather that I cannot load those 2 saves at all. I've gone back to Denerim Market again and had no problems this time, not even the fps drop... I have no idea what went wrong.
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Post by adrianbc on Mar 9, 2017 7:03:18 GMT
Game crashes happened rarely in my case after I started to save more often. I am not really sure why. It`s possible that if the game is not saved for a time, data concerning the game world state accumulates. I encountered a few game crashes a long time ago when running the game on Windows Vista. It`s possible that if the game is saved, many of the previously used game state data (for instance from previous areas) are discarded after a save, freeing up memory. How much memory is available to your computer while playing DA:O? Do you also run several programs in parallel? My solution was to save immediately after I entered a new area and save several times while playing in every area - after a quest or an important event - on different save slots. I use something like 12-15 save slots when playing DA:O, and since I started to do this the number of crashes diminished drastically. Your two saves might have been corrupted, and cannot be loaded. It happened to me sometimes. It`s not a normal occurrence. Just remember to save often, and also save the game when entering a new area - immediately or at the first opportunity.
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Hi all, I am new here and new to the Dragon Age franchise, though not to RPGs in general, having spent hundreds of hours on the Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale and Avernum games, among others. Before I get started in RPGs, I like to do as much research as possible because the characters I am playing don't normally start their stories with total amnesia and zero knowledge of their reality, and I also don't like to reload bad outcomes unless utterly necessary so that my wins and losses are meaningful. However, I obviously don't want to spoiler myself before I start either, so I prefer to ask questions rather than dive into walkthroughs and guides. I'd appreciate if some of you can help with the following: 1) Is this the best forum to ask questions regarding Dragon Age Origins? It's a pretty old game and it seems like the official Bioware forums were shut down for some reason, and this is the most obvious forum I've found so far. 2) Compared to Baldur's Gate (Moderate difficulty), how hard is DAO on Normal difficulty? I want to know if the game difficulty gives me the room to make intentionally non-min/max decisions and still complete the game without 100 reloads. 3) I know that each Dragon Age game gives you a great deal of freedom in character creation, and the outcome of one game feeds into the next... Is there however anything resembling a "canon party" in DAO like in BG1, where Imoen, Jaheira, Minsc, Khalid and Dynaheir are assumed to have been your companions at the start of BG2. Are any of the PC backgrounds in DAO implied to be canon in later games? 4) Are their any mods you would recommend for a first time player that don't change the core of the game, but provides perhaps quality of life and graphical improvements? The version of the game I have is DAO: Ultimate Edition. 5) Can you recommend any spoiler-free resource that I can use to learn the lore of the game without being spoilered by actual ingame events? Similarly are there any spoiler-free guides/tutorials out there I can use to learn the game before I play it for real? Thx in advance! 1. YES! 2. No idea, never played Baldur's gate. I was not a gamer until last year, and played DAO on normal fine the first time. 3. I think some romances are more canon than others. There are cameos of all four of the DAO origins romance options, but DA favors Morrigan and Alistair more. Because of so much possibility of death in DA2, the romances hardly mattered/carried over into the third part of the series. Which some folk consider a good thing, because you can head canon something pretty darn happy. DA series let's you be a King/Queen/Empress/Emperor maker a lot, and this is mainly what carries through the series with cameos to support those choices. But PC background and whether they were a mage/warrior/rogue mattered zero, I think. 4. I know there are texture mods. And I suggest getting a hair mod because some NPC always steals your hair style. There is a Skip the Fade mod, but I wish there was a Skip the Deep Roads mod haha BUT! some people say the love the Fade, so I don't recommend you use it the first time you play. 5. I recommend you start a Text Only Let's play where you declare in BIG BOLD LETTERS that you want NO SPOILERS. And go in blind with non spoil tips from players. I've done this twice and loved it, and I'd totally help you as I watched you play. I just can't ever do youtube or twitch or whatever other crazy things people do. I hang on a couple forums, no time to patience to stare at a video for hours.
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5. I recommend you start a Text Only Let's play where you declare in BIG BOLD LETTERS that you want NO SPOILERS. And go in blind with non spoil tips from players. I've done this twice and loved it, and I'd totally help you as I watched you play. I just can't ever do youtube or twitch or whatever other crazy things people do. I hang on a couple forums, no time to patience to stare at a video for hours. lol Without intending to, this thread has kinda become that. I considered making new threads to ask new questions, but it seems kinda convenient to have everything in one place. What you're suggesting sounds like an AAR, although I guess that term probably isn't used for RPGs. I used to enjoy writing them, but I'm a bit obsessive and ended up taking longer on the writing than the actual gaming, and I don't have time for that anymore.
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5. I recommend you start a Text Only Let's play where you declare in BIG BOLD LETTERS that you want NO SPOILERS. And go in blind with non spoil tips from players. :whistle: I've done this twice and loved it, and I'd totally help you as I watched you play. I just can't ever do youtube or twitch or whatever other crazy things people do. I hang on a couple forums, no time to patience to stare at a video for hours. lol Without intending to, this thread has kinda become that. I considered making new threads to ask new questions, but it seems kinda convenient to have everything in one place. What you're suggesting sounds like an AAR, although I guess that term probably isn't used for RPGs. I used to enjoy writing them, but I'm a bit obsessive and ended up taking longer on the writing than the actual gaming, and I don't have time for that anymore. :D I just do this in the "What did you do today in Game X" threads. They are low pressure, because there is no real format, or completeness to worry about and it's easy to chit-chat. The only drawback is that I do catch spoilers, but ah, well. I like the informal feel of it, and by default community feel in them, friendliness etc.
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Post by heindrich on Mar 13, 2017 13:42:54 GMT
I just moved house, I hate packing and unpacking... Anyway finally got around to making a forum avatar outta my DAO PC I finally managed to kill Flemeth shortly after reaching lv14. I tried it earlier with the tactics as suggested by mousestalker and adrianbc, but I just couldn't keep Shale alive for long enough, and once he goes down, everyone else follows quickly. In one attempt she just grabbed PC and shook him around like a ragdoll until he died Thank the Maker for Shale, I still have no idea how to beat her without him.
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Post by heindrich on Mar 13, 2017 14:06:11 GMT
Right more questions.. I've tried to read a bit more of the DAO Wiki to understand some of the numbers I've come across ingame, but it's kinda raised more questions, and I'm afraid of diving deeper encase I run into spoilers. 1) What is nature damage and spirit damage? I mean Fire, Frost, Lightning, Physical are all self-explanatory, but Spirit and Nature? I have an amulet that has good stats, but penalizes Nature Resistance, I have no idea how big the penalty is cos I dunno which attacks count as Nature. 2) Apparently you can upgrade items by putting them in the container in Warden's Keep, or selling to the merchant there. Is this intended or an exploit? If it is intended, is there a list of items that can be upgraded, and at what are the character level thresholds? For example I just sold Warden Commander's armor (tier 4) cos I found Cailan's armor set (tier 5), but if I can upgrade Warden Commander, it might be worth hanging onto. 3) I completed the Sacred Ashes quest at lv13 (epic quest), but was too scared to blow the horn to fight the dragon. I know that if I kill the Dragon, I can get Wade to forge some Dragon armor for me. Question is... Does dragon armor really look like normal armor (on wiki) unless u make the massive variety? If so that's kinda disappointing. I planned to get the Medium or Heavy variety because Alistair is my intended tank and PC can barely cast spells atm due to 100%+ fatigue from the Blood Dragon Plate. lol
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2017 14:48:28 GMT
#2 is intended, not an exploit.
For nature and Spirit it is tied to specific Mage trees. Take a look at them, and you will see which one is which type of spells.
I will let the folks that actually gear up to answer #3!
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Post by talyn82 on Mar 13, 2017 16:37:26 GMT
Right more questions.. I've tried to read a bit more of the DAO Wiki to understand some of the numbers I've come across ingame, but it's kinda raised more questions, and I'm afraid of diving deeper encase I run into spoilers. 1) What is nature damage and spirit damage? I mean Fire, Frost, Lightning, Physical are all self-explanatory, but Spirit and Nature? I have an amulet that has good stats, but penalizes Nature Resistance, I have no idea how big the penalty is cos I dunno which attacks count as Nature. 2) Apparently you can upgrade items by putting them in the container in Warden's Keep, or selling to the merchant there. Is this intended or an exploit? If it is intended, is there a list of items that can be upgraded, and at what are the character level thresholds? For example I just sold Warden Commander's armor (tier 4) cos I found Cailan's armor set (tier 5), but if I can upgrade Warden Commander, it might be worth hanging onto. 3) I completed the Sacred Ashes quest at lv13 (epic quest), but was too scared to blow the horn to fight the dragon. I know that if I kill the Dragon, I can get Wade to forge some Dragon armor for me. Question is... Does dragon armor really look like normal armor (on wiki) unless u make the massive variety? If so that's kinda disappointing. I planned to get the Medium or Heavy variety because Alistair is my intended tank and PC can barely cast spells atm due to 100%+ fatigue from the Blood Dragon Plate. lol About number 3: Are you playing an Arcane Warrior or just a mage. If the latter robes are best despite how ugly they are. Plus Alistair is a great tank and if you level him well, mostenemies will never come near you. If your playing an AW, I don't know much about them. What I do know as an AW you shouldn't be heavily penalized for wearing heavy armor.
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Post by mousestalker on Mar 13, 2017 17:08:10 GMT
Big Spiders spit poison, which is nature damage. I don't think you encounter spirit damage early in the game. You will very much want to collect anything that offers spirit damage resistance. You will need it for yourself and your companions. The chest is working as intended. If you order it from Wade correctly, the dragon armour is some of the best in game. For one thing, it offers great stamina/mana mitigation and fire resistance. I prefer to get it in its heavy, rather than massive, configuration if I am playing an arcane warrior. The Evon the Great chest piece can replace the Wade's chest piece without losing set bonuses (very nice) and that is the best set for arcane warriors as it gives great mana mitigation as well as mana bonus (stats at the wiki). I also prefer the look of the heavy set. The massive looks impractical, imo. I tend to put Alistair in the Blood Dragon Armour as he looks cute in it. Aesthetics matter after all. Later in game he may give a speech, and I like him to look his best.
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Post by adrianbc on Mar 13, 2017 17:13:38 GMT
There are two types of armor to be made by Wade: light armor from drake scales, and heavy armor from the high dragon. The best solution for an Arcane Warrior is to try for a Wade's Superior Heavy Dragonscale armor set from Wade since this one is also compatible with the Evon the Great's Mail you`ll find later to buy in Wade`s store, making a set with the rest of the pieces (gauntlets and boots). So you can have the heavy dragon armor plate with good fire resistance and regeneration when needed, and replace the dragon plate with the one from Wade store for other encounters - with much better regeneration and stats. This armor is perhaps the best one for an Arcane Warrior in DA:O, since the penalty is lower, and there is also some very good mana regeneration from the plate Wade is selling. Make that plate a priority in your shopping list. I don`t remember exactly when is Wade starting to sell the Evon the Great's Mail. Problem is, you will want to postpone the making of any dragon armor with Wade help because once the dragon mail plate is finished Herren will refuse to sell anything to the Warden. So the best way to solve this is: wait for the Evon the Great's Mail to be available in Wade`s store, raise the needed money (it`s quite expensive, but if you`ll use the lyrium traffic method, money is not an issue) and after you have Evon`s mail make TWO sets of dragonskin armor from drakes (you need to kill all 6 drakes for their scales). The first one will be weaker, but in case you have 20 sovereigns the second set will be superior dragonskin armor with mana/stamina regeneration. Now Wade is ready to make the best armor from high dragon scales. The alternative (also good, not compatible with Evon`s mail) is Wade's Superior Dragonbone Plate Armor, which also has mana/stamina regeneration and has higher armor value, but overall is a weaker solution for an Arcane Warrior compared to the Evon`s mail and the rest of Wade's Superior Heavy Dragonscale armor set - with a much better mana regeneration level. Oh, and by the time Wade`s shop has Evon`s mail, there is also a light armor available: The Felon's Coat, which is perfect for rogues. So if you use the potent lyrium money-raising method, just buy both armors from Herren and then start the dragon scale armor making business with Wade.
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Post by mousestalker on Mar 13, 2017 17:17:30 GMT
Also, massive plate aggros the bad guys much more than does heavy plate. Tanks wear massive, off tanks and arcane warriors need to get heavy.
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Post by heindrich on Mar 14, 2017 17:28:44 GMT
This armor is perhaps the best one for an Arcane Warrior in DA:O, since the penalty is lower, and there is also some very good mana regeneration from the plate Wade is selling. Make that plate a priority in your shopping list. I finally saw Evon the Great's Mail in Wade's store... it has Stamina and Health recovery bonuses... I don't see anything about Mana regen. I am looking at the right thing right? It costs 107 gold (ouch) Also you're saying that you can get the set bonus from the dragon armor from equipping just 2 pieces of it? It's not always clear to me what the set bonuses are for the sets ingame, and whether my characters are even benefitting from them. Don't the bonuses scale with number of items equipped?
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Post by heindrich on Mar 14, 2017 17:42:19 GMT
I can't figure out how to properly upload pictures on this forum... So here's an imgur link of a screencap of my PC: imgur.com/a/dKTr3Can somebody confirm that his "Attack" or chance to hit, isn't really just 35, compared to 97 for Alistair on the following screencap: imgur.com/a/niiurI've invested attribute points and geared up my characters quite intuitively without number crunching, but can somebody just check my build isn't totally stupid? Tbh I feel like PC and Alistair are about equally effective in melee combat, so I assume the character summary numbers just don't take into consideration that PC uses Magic instead of Str for Attack and Dmg calculations?
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Post by mousestalker on Mar 14, 2017 17:43:54 GMT
You need all three pieces to get the set bonus. Evon the Great counts as a substitute for the Wade's chest piece.
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Games: Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights
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Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights
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Post by adrianbc on Mar 15, 2017 13:45:12 GMT
This armor is perhaps the best one for an Arcane Warrior in DA:O, since the penalty is lower, and there is also some very good mana regeneration from the plate Wade is selling. Make that plate a priority in your shopping list. I finally saw Evon the Great's Mail in Wade's store... it has Stamina and Health recovery bonuses... I don't see anything about Mana regen. I am looking at the right thing right? It costs 107 gold (ouch) Also you're saying that you can get the set bonus from the dragon armor from equipping just 2 pieces of it? It's not always clear to me what the set bonuses are for the sets ingame, and whether my characters are even benefitting from them. Don't the bonuses scale with number of items equipped? For an Arcane Warrior stamina regeneration works exactly as mana regeneration. Which means using Evon`s Mail as a replacement for the Wade's Superior Heavy Dragonscale armor plate gives you a better stamina/mana regeneration. So you`ll be able to use spells more often in combat In DA:O an armor set means the chest armor piece, boots, and gloves. Armor set bonus means an extra feature like extra armor, defense or (in the case of Wade's Superior Heavy Dragonscale armor - extra regeneration).
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