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Post by laxian on Mar 3, 2017 21:27:11 GMT
Hey guys,
I know the title sounds like klick-bait kind of, but I have my reasons, so please hear me out before judging - ok?
You still here? Good, here goes:
The A.I. (despite having an AI - SAM!) doesn't seem to have a plan and it looks like they have not carefully vetted the people who signed up to the mission, let's break that down:
1. It really seems like we took the worst kind of scum along to Andromeda (or, much more disturbing: The A.I. leadership treated people like shit once we arrived - why would they rebell otherwise, if they were all well adjusted, well educated and productive members of society before we left for Andromeda?), otherwise there would be no rebells/outlaws/pirates/thieves etc.
As it looks there's at least one outlaw-faction per planet that we have to somehow pacify (bring back into the fold or exterminate?) in order to be allowed to set up an outpost on that particular planet!
So were did they come from? Shitty treatment or did entire merc-groups, crime-syndicates etc. come along and absconded once we arrived?
Also: Did they steal ships and supplies from the Initiative? Did they bring their own? (if they stole them: Weren't they guarded and if so did they kill the guards? I hope we can come down hard on them, like a ton of bricks! I have no patience for thieves, outlaws etc. (unless they really have a very good reason for their bullshit!) - especially in a survival situation, where every warm body and every shuttle etc. counts! You can debate shitty treatment etc. later, once the situation has resolved and once civilization has been established (then I'll be the frist person to give you a voice to get those guilty for shitty decisions charged (if they have violated any regs!). If you mutiny while everybody is in danger? Well, you get hung (if it were my call!) or shot!)
2. They commission bad vehicles and guns! Both the Tempest (which is probably the template for all pathfinder-ships, so there might be 4 of them (or more if the Nexus has more pathfinders!)) and the Nomad are unarmed (which is great if you do a dig on a planet that has regular police and military forces (so that you don't need to protect yourself with big guns!), same goes for the ship: Even in the Milkyway you would send an ARMED ship (or an unarmed vessel with an escort!) if you were to open a new relay/look into an unexplored system!)
As for the weapons: We will probably start out with the most crappy guns you can find (I know: Most RPGs do this, but for special forces (and the Pathfinder-Team is special forces - a mix between diplomat, hostage rescue and negotiation team and a unit of special forces...a special "breed" much like the Council's SPECTREs!) this is kind of funky (sure: You might not gain the best guns, but still not junk!) and will have to procure our own guns once in the field, if we want better ones!
3. They don't seem to have much in the way of security forces (twenty thousand people need something like C-Sec (Police basically...or at least a small constabulary/sherriff's department!) and even a small military to protect them, the A.I. doesn't seem to have either, at least we haven't seen anything like that yet!) and defensive armaments (our ship has none, the Arks seem unarmed and the Nexus is probably unarmed either!)...barriers can't solve everything (if they even stop stuff like say Remnant weapons or plasma weapons!)
4. They don't seem to have a plan (or a backup-/emergency-plan) what to do once their original plan is in shambles and they have rebells etc...shouldn't they have planned for the worst?
5. They don't even have much military personal it seems (the pathfinder team is small and so far they are the only people who seem to have military training - and not all of them do, Peebee is not a commando/huntress it seems (sure she uses biotics, but Samara would probably flatten her) and Liam is basically a less trained Garrus (the later has had prior military training, like all Turians have at some point in their lives - except the infirm probably!), the others are soldiers more or less (talking about the ground crew, I don't know about the ship's crew!))
6. There's politicians along it seems (that Salarian character, we've seen in a vid this last week!)...what the fuck? Politicians should naturally develop once we have set up, we don't need people who don't pitch in at the start (don't get me wrong: Politicians aren't un-needed in an already established society, but on an expedition into the unknown? NO WAY!), they can come later once stuff has been established (even a Mayor is not needed untill you've got shit up and running! Much less a President or something!)
Ok, there it is! Discuss!
greetings LAX
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Post by brunobyof on Mar 3, 2017 21:59:07 GMT
That's what happens when you put every single leadership role to women in the Initiative. I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to plant beautiful flowers into the sand on the unexplored planets instead of securing resources and stablishing a well defended base
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Post by SwobyJ on Mar 3, 2017 22:05:47 GMT
I want this game to intend on showing the sorts of things (albeit on different scale and in a very different way) that happens if we do Musk's Mars trip.
We are not ready.
Maybe some didn't want us to be ready.
I really hope we don't get a whole game acting like this is fine.
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Post by SwobyJ on Mar 3, 2017 22:08:08 GMT
That's what happens when you put every single leadership role to women in the Initiative. I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to plant beautiful flowers into the sand on the unexplored planets instead of securing resources and stablishing a well defended base Even the asari government, all 'women', would have done better. Even salarian government, which is significantly matriarchy, would have done better. Even krogan invaders, if ran by women, would have done better. The cover of MEA has a crashed ark. I hope that implies Bioware is quite self-aware about how silly the prep for the Initiative has been. That it means something.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 22:26:15 GMT
What can I say? Humans are 100% classified idiots in both MEA and irl. This is why I romance aliens.
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Post by wolfsite on Mar 3, 2017 22:45:38 GMT
Well if they were competent we wouldn't have much of a game now would we.
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Post by kingjuly on Mar 3, 2017 23:04:27 GMT
I think I might actually defend the AnIn this time. There's several factors at work here. In regards to the lack of planning, you need to remember that the arks arrived in Andromeda at different times. This would mean establishing a plan would be difficult as not all of the programs resources and manpower are available. Technically, they did have a plan in case of not being able to contact the others but Im not sure if it counts as much of a spoiler. They were to proceed to their 'home world' if no contact could be made. Alec says this himself in the 13 minute opening video. As for the presence of gangs, its again important to know that some of the planets have had colonies for years. Problems can arise that can cause division among the colonists and lead some people to leave the AnIn. Strong leadership wouldn't mean anything in those cases. People are people, they are each very different from each other and some might even snap if pushed too far. Its difficult to account for that. As for the comments in regards to the Tempest and Nomad being unarmed, that's actually not a 'bad' decision by the AnIn. Yes, it could bite them in the ass later but the idea was that the Pathfinder teams were to scout the planets for habitability and to be the first people to contact new races. You need to appear friendly and less like an invading force for other species to actually treat you as something other than a threat. Thats why the Tempest and Nomad are unarmed. Lastly in regards to the lack of security personnel...how do you know that? We don't actually have any numbers to get an idea of how many security personnel there are. Either way, I highly doubt they came to Andromeda without a decent sized security division.
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Post by MasterJukes on Mar 3, 2017 23:12:03 GMT
What can I say? Humans are 100% classified idiots in both MEA and irl. This is why I romance aliens. This comment
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Post by Warrick on Mar 3, 2017 23:21:28 GMT
That's what happens when you put every single leadership role to women in the Initiative. I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to plant beautiful flowers into the sand on the unexplored planets instead of securing resources and stablishing a well defended base I'm pleased to announce to the scientific community that I have just detected the idioton, a new fundamental particle that can potentially help understand many hitherto unexplained phenomena, such as the post above.
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Post by laxian on Mar 3, 2017 23:32:47 GMT
Well if they were competent we wouldn't have much of a game now would we. You can have competent NPCs and have a good game (example: You have a talented smith who's really good at his job, but if you want him to craft special weapons and armor, then you - the fighter - have to go and secure special resources! Does that make the smith incompetent? No, he's a smith, not a badass "Give me what I want/need or I will kill you" fighter!) greetings LAX ps: If you have incompetent fighters and leaders etc. that's when it starts to get ridiculous!
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Post by wolfsite on Mar 3, 2017 23:35:37 GMT
Well if they were competent we wouldn't have much of a game now would we. You can have competent NPCs and have a good game (example: You have a talented smith who's really good at his job, but if you want him to craft special weapons and armor, then you - the fighter - have to go and secure special resources! Does that make the smith incompetent? No, he's a smith, not a badass "Give me what I want/need or I will kill you" fighter!) greetings LAX ps: If you have incompetent fighters and leaders etc. that's when it starts to get ridiculous! Thank you for ruining the joke.
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Post by warbaby2 on Mar 3, 2017 23:36:34 GMT
What can I say? Humans are 100% classified idiots in both MEA and irl. This is why I romance aliens. This... well, the first part of the statement, at least.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Mar 3, 2017 23:46:13 GMT
That's what happens when you put every single leadership role to women in the Initiative. I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to plant beautiful flowers into the sand on the unexplored planets instead of securing resources and stablishing a well defended base Holy shit. Sorry the vajay-jay is permanently locked to you, but you did it to yourself. Our planet has been ruled by men forever.... If you think Earth is well-managed, I fart in your general direction.
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Post by laxian on Mar 3, 2017 23:46:21 GMT
I think I might actually defend the AnIn this time. There's several factors at work here. In regards to the lack of planning, you need to remember that the arks arrived in Andromeda at different times. This would mean establishing a plan would be difficult as not all of the programs resources and manpower are available. Technically, they did have a plan in case of not being able to contact the others but Im not sure if it counts as much of a spoiler. They were to proceed to their 'home world' if no contact could be made. Alec says this himself in the 13 minute opening video. As for the presence of gangs, its again important to know that some of the planets have had colonies for years. Problems can arise that can cause division among the colonists and lead some people to leave the AnIn. Strong leadership wouldn't mean anything in those cases. People are people, they are each very different from each other and some might even snap if pushed too far. Its difficult to account for that. As for the comments in regards to the Tempest and Nomad being unarmed, that's actually not a 'bad' decision by the AnIn. Yes, it could bite them in the ass later but the idea was that the Pathfinder teams were to scout the planets for habitability and to be the first people to contact new races. You need to appear friendly and less like an invading force for other species to actually treat you as something other than a threat. Thats why the Tempest and Nomad are unarmed. Lastly in regards to the lack of security personnel...how do you know that? We don't actually have any numbers to get an idea of how many security personnel there are. Either way, I highly doubt they came to Andromeda without a decent sized security division. Well, I will refer you to STARGATE (the TV-Shows!) here: Humanity is peaceful there, too but they would never leave their guns home (it's one thing to carry a weapon and another to point it at someone and firing!)...especially since an attack can happen on the most harmless looking planets! So yeah, it will bite us in the ass (especially since we have no military to speak off...damned, thank god we have some Krogan and the Turians (and I don't even like the Turians all that much, they are so inflexible (their tactics are basically Roman Empire mixed with Adolf Hitler (Hold no matter the cost and inflexible battle lines!) and rigid (they don't take to new concepts well and their are stick to the rules sticklers! Not to mention that they lack creativity and punish people for the sins of their relatives (like the Primarch's son's bad luck reflecting badly on his father!))...but at least every able bodied Turian has had military training!)...what if we have a way superior force baring down on us on the ground? With Orbital Strikes, Air support and armed vehicles this could work out, otherwise it will only work because those enemies aren't actual flesh and blood people who would simply overwhelm us! I'd love to know why we are late to the party - was our damned Ark damaged or something? (Sorry, but being late puts as at a disadvantage - again! Just like in the Milkyway! The good planets are probably claimed already and as we've seen: The damned A.I. has fractured (shattered!), I don't think that would have happened with us there!) How do I know that? Because with decent security personal (decent numbers and decently trained!) there would not be as many fucking outlaws etc. (they wouldn't have been able to get themselves ships, supplies and weapons, can't mutiny/rebell without weapons etc. after all!) greetings LAX ps: Don't make this a gender issue guys! Women can do leadership, most just don't want to!
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Post by laxian on Mar 3, 2017 23:50:09 GMT
That's what happens when you put every single leadership role to women in the Initiative. I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to plant beautiful flowers into the sand on the unexplored planets instead of securing resources and stablishing a well defended base Holy shit. Sorry the vajay-jay is permanently locked to you, but you did it to yourself. Our planet has been ruled by men forever.... If you think Earth is well-managed, I fart in your general direction. It's not, but that's a flaw in mankind - not just in men or women (we would not be better of with women in charge! Look at my home country: Germany! We have a woman in charge (Chancellor Angela Merkel!) and she's not better than her predecessors (who were mostly assholes IMHO, at least the ones I actively remember!), I'd argue that she's worse - but not because she's a woman!) greetings LAX ps: The military all over the world is well managed (in most cases) because soldiers learn disciplin etc. in basic training!
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Mar 4, 2017 0:00:04 GMT
Holy shit. Sorry the vajay-jay is permanently locked to you, but you did it to yourself. Our planet has been ruled by men forever.... If you think Earth is well-managed, I fart in your general direction. It's not, but that's a flaw in mankind - not just in men or women (we would not be better of with women in charge! Look at my home country: Germany! We have a women in charge (Chencellor Angela Merkel!) and she's not better than her predecessors (who were mostly assholes IMHO, at least the ones I actively remember!), I'd argue that she's worse - but not because she's a woman!) greetings LAX ps: The military all over the world is well managed (in most cases) because soldiers learn disciplin etc. in basic training! Sex is irrelevant. My point.
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Post by laxian on Mar 4, 2017 0:04:07 GMT
Sex is irrelevant. My point. Not entirely, but yes - like I said on the old BSN: "I don't want a female or male player character (I said: Hero in the original), I want a player character who just happens to be male or female!" (so no special treatment for any gender!) greetings LAX
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Mar 4, 2017 0:16:11 GMT
Sex is irrelevant. My point. Not entirely, but yes - like I said on the old BSN: "I don't want a female or male player character (I said: Hero in the original), I want a player character who just happens to be male or female!" (so no special treatment for any gender!) greetings LAX A nuanced perspective?!? BSN? Lax, I like your style. Of course there are important differences between the sexes, but ability to lead isn't one of them. My industry is one of the most egalitarian in existence. Although there is massive nepotism, there is also to an extent a meritocracy; otherwise I wouldn't have a job at all because I am nobody's son. Anyway I digress. There are women in positions of leadership in all divisions of my world, and all of them are as capable of awesome and garbage as the other. Preference of one over the other because <reasons> is an arbitrary stupidity that really annoys me.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 0:18:29 GMT
What you have to realize is that in Mass Effect, the most intelligent beings of all time were bested by a soldier that liked to party when civilization was going extinct.
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Post by laxian on Mar 4, 2017 0:24:55 GMT
As if taking some time off to not go bonkers isn't a good thing (and it's not like you constantly hang out at bars, clubs etc. as Shepard!), a commander Shepard who loses it because he/she stopped being human in order to fight (and now has a nervous breakdown etc.) is not a good idea - I don't think any soldier (even those on Earth and Palaven etc.) begrudges Shepard some time off before the final push!
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Post by warbaby2 on Mar 4, 2017 0:25:31 GMT
Not entirely, but yes - like I said on the old BSN: "I don't want a female or male player character (I said: Hero in the original), I want a player character who just happens to be male or female!" (so no special treatment for any gender!) greetings LAX A nuanced perspective?!? BSN? Lax, I like your style. Of course there are important differences between the sexes, but ability to lead isn't one of them. My industry is one of the most egalitarian in existence. Although there is massive nepotism, there is also to an extent a meritocracy; otherwise I wouldn't have a job at all because I am nobody's son. Anyway I digress. There are women in positions of leadership in all divisions of my world, and all of them are as capable of awesome and garbage as the other. Preference of one over the other because <reasons> is an arbitrary stupidity that really annoys me. Agreed, however: We are not talking about a cushy desk job here... this is a dangerous, potentially deadly exploration and colonization afford into unknown space. Nobody alive today has even an inkling of what that really means. Women are - as a group, by nature - much more risk averse and less assertive in the face of mortal danger then men... that has been so for thousands of years, and still will be so in 200. There are exceptions - and the leaders of the Ai might be such, but in general... yea, it's a fantasy.
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Post by Mihura on Mar 4, 2017 0:36:44 GMT
That's what happens when you put every single leadership role to women in the Initiative. I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to plant beautiful flowers into the sand on the unexplored planets instead of securing resources and stablishing a well defended base A nuanced perspective?!? BSN? Lax, I like your style. Of course there are important differences between the sexes, but ability to lead isn't one of them. My industry is one of the most egalitarian in existence. Although there is massive nepotism, there is also to an extent a meritocracy; otherwise I wouldn't have a job at all because I am nobody's son. Anyway I digress. There are women in positions of leadership in all divisions of my world, and all of them are as capable of awesome and garbage as the other. Preference of one over the other because <reasons> is an arbitrary stupidity that really annoys me. Agreed, however: We are not talking about a cushy desk job here... this is a dangerous, potentially deadly exploration and colonization afford into unknown space. Nobody alive today has even an inkling of what that really means. Women are - as a group, by nature - much more risk averse and less assertive in the face of mortal danger then men... that has been so for thousands of years, and still will be so in 200. There are exceptions - and the leaders of the Ai might be such, but in general... yea, it's a fantasy. This is trolling right? please goddess let it be? because you guys are getting awfully triggered by pixeis.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 4, 2017 0:36:51 GMT
That's what happens when you put every single leadership role to women in the Initiative. I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to plant beautiful flowers into the sand on the unexplored planets instead of securing resources and stablishing a well defended base This is an example of why there is such a move for feminism nowadays. Misogynism does indeed happen, and consciously.
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Post by warbaby2 on Mar 4, 2017 0:39:22 GMT
That's what happens when you put every single leadership role to women in the Initiative. I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to plant beautiful flowers into the sand on the unexplored planets instead of securing resources and stablishing a well defended base This is an example of why there is such a move for feminism nowadays. Misogynism does indeed happen, and consciously. Yea, and that's also why there is growing push back against it, because calling everyone a sexist or misogynist (you ever really thought about what this word actually means!?) is not at all helpful... to nobody.
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