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Post by mmoblitz on Mar 17, 2017 20:48:59 GMT
Maybe it's a generational thing. Older gamers (like me) for the most part, are less tolerant of things like this than today's generation of gamer. This is the norm for gamers today as they are accustomed to games released full of bugs, glitches, incomplete, and so on. Older gamers are not. At least not to the extent that it exists today.
Will this keep me from playing and enjoying the game? Don't know yet. Still have questions on a few things that won't be answered until people have had a change to complete the game.
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Post by havolice on Mar 17, 2017 21:08:36 GMT
Maybe it's a generational thing. Older gamers (like me) for the most part, are less tolerant of things like this than today's generation of gamer. This is the norm for gamers today as they are accustomed to games released full of bugs, glitches, incomplete, and so on. Older gamers are not. At least not to the extent that it exists today. Will this keep me from playing and enjoying the game? Don't know yet. Still have questions on a few things that won't be answered until people have had a change to complete the game. im a old gamer 33 now almost 34. yes i cannot find how some of the bugs get into this game * start up being stopped by major pc accesory like mice and such* the minor things i can take with a grain of salt the faces humans make and such sure it needs to be fixed ASAP but its not like we havent seen it before. but ya i mis the days of the nes and snes where no patches where viable |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2017 21:13:30 GMT
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Mar 17, 2017 21:28:04 GMT
You can't be serious. So it was even worse. No, it wasn't. That's what his point was. Those games were polished and complete, tested to death and then tested some more, then released. Ultima 1-4, no patches. Pretty much perfect the way they are. All of the early Nintendo titles. PlayStation 1..... We used to get the entire product on the media we purchased, and loved it or no based on that - quality control was important. I don't blame younger generations for their diminished expectations - they have been conditioned to it. I do think it is the sad truth of our world, that we continue to be happy with less - but that is an entirely different argument. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2017 21:32:38 GMT
You can't be serious. So it was even worse. No, it wasn't. That's what his point was. Those games were polished and complete, tested to death and then tested some more, then released. Ultima 1-4, no patches. Pretty much perfect the way they are. All of the early Nintendo titles. PlayStation 1..... We used to get the entire product on the media we purchased, and loved it or no based on that - quality control was important. I don't blame younger generations for their diminished expectations - they have been conditioned to it. I do think it is the sad truth of our world, that we continue to be happy with less - but that is an entirely different argument. What the fuck are you talking about? Really. Because clearly you don't have any idea about who I was referring to. |
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Post by maxon on Mar 17, 2017 21:35:52 GMT
im a old gamer 33 now almost 34. Pft. |
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 17, 2017 21:49:46 GMT
I'm just shaking my head over how many had deluded themselves into thinking the promise that a day 1 patch was going to change all the issues seen in the promo footage from months before release, and how frequently people have bought into this whole idea that animations are "bugs that can be fixed". The "polish, polish, polish" statement from Walters back in June was already a warning sign of what was going on with this game and I kept saying that #LinkenskiWasRight
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Post by mmoblitz on Mar 17, 2017 21:51:26 GMT
Maybe it's a generational thing. Older gamers (like me) for the most part, are less tolerant of things like this than today's generation of gamer. This is the norm for gamers today as they are accustomed to games released full of bugs, glitches, incomplete, and so on. Older gamers are not. At least not to the extent that it exists today. Will this keep me from playing and enjoying the game? Don't know yet. Still have questions on a few things that won't be answered until people have had a change to complete the game. im a old gamer 33 now almost 34. yes i cannot find how some of the bugs get into this game * start up being stopped by major pc accesory like mice and such* the minor things i can take with a grain of salt the faces humans make and such sure it needs to be fixed ASAP but its not like we havent seen it before. but ya i mis the days of the nes and snes where no patches where viable If only I was that age again..lol I was just out of HS when you were born. Your still young yet! |
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Post by naytnavare on Mar 17, 2017 21:59:49 GMT
You can't be serious. So it was even worse. No, it wasn't. That's what his point was. Those games were polished and complete, tested to death and then tested some more, then released. Ultima 1-4, no patches. Pretty much perfect the way they are. All of the early Nintendo titles. PlayStation 1.....
We used to get the entire product on the media we purchased, and loved it or no based on that - quality control was important.I don't blame younger generations for their diminished expectations - they have been conditioned to it. I do think it is the sad truth of our world, that we continue to be happy with less - but that is an entirely different argument. That is either a misunderstanding, or the most revisionist bull I have seen outside of politics. There are numerous people who make CAREERS making fun of old, broken, crappy, glitchy games. Sorry, but this just is not true. |
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Post by vanguardn7 on Mar 17, 2017 22:08:21 GMT
No, it wasn't. That's what his point was. Those games were polished and complete, tested to death and then tested some more, then released. Ultima 1-4, no patches. Pretty much perfect the way they are. All of the early Nintendo titles. PlayStation 1.....
We used to get the entire product on the media we purchased, and loved it or no based on that - quality control was important.I don't blame younger generations for their diminished expectations - they have been conditioned to it. I do think it is the sad truth of our world, that we continue to be happy with less - but that is an entirely different argument. That is either a misunderstanding, or the most revisionist bull I have seen outside of politics. There are numerous people who make CAREERS making fun of old, broken, crappy, glitchy games. Sorry, but this just is not true. really master of monsters had a bug if you missed once, which was likely cause the way the tracked such things, you missed time for the rest of the turn. you know a gamebreaking bug instead of a merely annoying/amusing one. gods gamers are so spoiled these days. |
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Post by MajorAssman on Mar 17, 2017 22:35:15 GMT
Maybe it's a generational thing. Older gamers (like me) for the most part, are less tolerant of things like this than today's generation of gamer. This is the norm for gamers today as they are accustomed to games released full of bugs, glitches, incomplete, and so on. Older gamers are not. At least not to the extent that it exists today. Will this keep me from playing and enjoying the game? Don't know yet. Still have questions on a few things that won't be answered until people have had a change to complete the game. As an older gamer (mid forties), i find myself far more tolerant of games shortcomings. Having experienced real life problems like divorce or the loss of a parent. I boot up a game it has a shiitty CC I shrug and move on, some weird facial animations, oh well. Long as the core game play is good, characters are interesting I'm good. I believe there will be more in this game that I will love than not. I believe this because of the three previous games which I enjoyed completely warts and all. |
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Post by havolice on Mar 17, 2017 22:35:26 GMT
What i ment was more in lines it was less obvious everything worked to a certain degree or needed little trouble shooting.
these days publishers like ea activision that are greedy as hell just bully developers into shipping early cause lol who cares we can fix it later
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Mar 17, 2017 22:43:49 GMT
No, it wasn't. That's what his point was. Those games were polished and complete, tested to death and then tested some more, then released. Ultima 1-4, no patches. Pretty much perfect the way they are. All of the early Nintendo titles. PlayStation 1.....
We used to get the entire product on the media we purchased, and loved it or no based on that - quality control was important.I don't blame younger generations for their diminished expectations - they have been conditioned to it. I do think it is the sad truth of our world, that we continue to be happy with less - but that is an entirely different argument. That is either a misunderstanding, or the most revisionist bull I have seen outside of politics. There are numerous people who make CAREERS making fun of old, broken, crappy, glitchy games. Sorry, but this just is not true. Some of it is flatly true, some of it is perhaps my old faulty memory, but the PS1 didn't get game updates that I recall, nor did the Nintendo games. Whether or not they were good is another question, but you could review the product that was in the box because that was what you got. There was no.... oops, man did we blow this, here's a shiny patch. There was either good game or not, and your recourse then as a consumer was the same as it is now - avoid the ones that seem to be screwing you more often. |
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Post by panzerwzh on Mar 17, 2017 23:50:13 GMT
OMFG the marvelous day one patch was in already? FFS we need the super biblical patch 2 ASAP!
What a f train wreck this is.
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Post by Sarayne on Mar 17, 2017 23:57:29 GMT
Guuuuys even the Witcher 3 had launch glitches (remember scary faceless Roach?) WAIT THAT HAPPENED? man i gotta google this now rofl. |
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Post by bigbad on Mar 18, 2017 1:08:23 GMT
Modern games are orders of magnitude more complex than older games. Of course they have more bugs. Should this game be more polished at launch? Perhaps. But comparisons with games from a decade or two ago are insipid at best.
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