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Post by B. Hieronymus Da on Mar 18, 2017 14:22:17 GMT
On the topic, I've seen other videos from ME:A, and I'm convinced that this really isn't an issue. Like the game and you're not going to think about it, even once.
The lacking CC, otoh, should be a disappointment.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 14:44:43 GMT
PewDeePie has shown himself to cross the line too many times with his anti-semetic posts. Even in jest and even taken out of context, death to all jews on a banner is just in bad taste. Not really. Besides: - Death to all jews has pretty much become a meme in the same way that "Hitler did nothing wrong" is a meme - The point of that banner wasn't the Death to all jews part but the fact that Pewdiepie (or anyone who's willing to spent money really) can make people on that site do whatever they want. He also made that Jesus guy say that Hitler did nothing wrong.
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Post by B. Hieronymus Da on Mar 18, 2017 15:15:06 GMT
PewDeePie has shown himself to cross the line too many times with his anti-semetic posts. Even in jest and even taken out of context, death to all jews on a banner is just in bad taste. First of all, where' are these "anti-semitic posts"? PDP has never made any, not a single one, afaik? Those three WSJ journalists didn't find any, and they put in a lot of time and effort. Secondly, it's fine that you make your opinion heard. I trust that that is really what you're doing. Like you're really saying " I think PewDiePie has crossed the line too many times..." The exact phrasing is just to be understood as implicit. Otherwise, I'd have to wonder what's your point. And if the answer to that would be that he should be outlawed in some way, silenced, de-platformed, falsely be accused of being nazi or anti-semitic as method to destroy him and silence his voice and means of defending himself, - well, then I would have to say "Fuck you! you fascist scum!"
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Post by midasear on Mar 18, 2017 15:19:40 GMT
It was contrived and reconstructed to be used against him, by a very laborious and intentional piece of work. That's not what I instinctively considers "backfiring". I think I need a bit more spontaneous causality. But it's semantics, I guess. You just don't get it. Some editor at the WSJ heard about PewDiePie and his 50+ million followers (probably from his 7 year old son) and naively ordered a journalist to investigate this strange phenomenon. That poor reporter then had to listen to hours PewDiePie to do the job. The pressure on his psyche must have been immense after 30 minutes or so. Its not like reporters have the strongest wills to begin with. Renegade Shepard they are not. Naturally, the reporter developed a deep and abiding hatred for PewDiePie. That would have been the only way for a serious adult to retain some semblance of sanity. Filled with hatred, he began looking for a way to make PewDiePie look bad. Making someone look bad is just about the only combat ability possessed by a member of the reporter class. This made the increasingly nightmarish task (listening to PewDiePie ) bearable. People are willing to endure great hardship if they are on a mission to destroy an inhuman monster, such as a youtuber with a Cthulu-like ability to destroy sanity. Fortunately, finding stuff that makes PewDiePie look bad to a WSJ editor, or any other ordinary adult, was probably not a challenging task. I'm sure the reporter in question was able to stop gibbering like a lunatic after a stay in one of metropolitan New York's many fine psychiatric establishments, and will probably recover fully given the right medications and psychotherapy.
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Post by B. Hieronymus Da on Mar 18, 2017 16:04:51 GMT
It was contrived and reconstructed to be used against him, by a very laborious and intentional piece of work. That's not what I instinctively considers "backfiring". I think I need a bit more spontaneous causality. But it's semantics, I guess. You just don't get it. Some editor at the WSJ heard about PewDiePie and his 50+ million followers (probably from his 7 year old son) and naively ordered a journalist to investigate this strange phenomenon. That poor reporter then had to listen to hours PewDiePie to do the job. The pressure on his psyche must have been immense after 30 minutes or so. Its not like reporters have the strongest wills to begin with. Renegade Shepard they are not. Naturally, the reporter developed a deep and abiding hatred for PewDiePie. That would have been the only way for a serious adult to retain some semblance of sanity. Filled with hatred, he began looking for a way to make PewDiePie look bad. Making someone look bad is just about the only combat ability possessed by a member of the reporter class. This made the increasingly nightmarish task (listening to PewDiePie ) bearable. People are willing to endure great hardship if they are on a mission to destroy an inhuman monster, such as a youtuber with a Cthulu-like ability to destroy sanity. Fortunately, finding stuff that makes PewDiePie look bad to a WSJ editor, or any other ordinary adult, was probably not a challenging task. I'm sure the reporter in question was able to stop gibbering like a lunatic after a stay in one of metropolitan New York's many fine psychiatric establishments, and will probably recover fully given the right medications and psychotherapy. That's a very entertaining piece you wrote there. I really enjoyed it and laughed a few times. I was going to let it stand, just out of respect for it, however in the end I decided to fill in some info: There were three journalists, not one. And one of them, if not outright anti-semitic, at least making anti-semitic jokes on twitter. So a major effort. They never contacted PDP in any way, before they contacted Disney and YouTube and achieved their object. So the story they wrote was not how a YT'er had +50 million subscribers, and was never intended to be that, but that Disney and youTube had dropped PDP because he was a nazi. That's how journalism works. It's you who don't get it. Why? Income from advertising. It's that simple. WSJ and many other MSM are losing more and more of their advertising revenues. So where does it go instead? Well take a guess. Personally, I think it's ludicrous because I'd imagine advertisers get poor value for their money on PDP's channel. But it's their choice. P.S. And apparently it was a challenging task. I don't remember exactly, but from their tweets congratulating each others, they had spent gruelling days.
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Post by midasear on Mar 18, 2017 16:40:12 GMT
There were three journalists, not one. Being serious for a moment, I can almost guarantee you that the original story idea was pretty much as I described. The WSJ runs a daily column they refer to as an "A-HED" on their front page. Its usually about something weird, or slightly comical, or sentimental. Sometimes it relates to a business. Sometimes it doesn't. My personal favorite of all time was an article about the factory that makes Necco wafers. Someone was probably assigned to write a classic WSJ "A-Hed" piece about PewDiePie based on some nebulous info heard by an editor. The reporter then rapidly turned up stuff that had the editor a interested in a very different kind of story, who promptly authorized a major piece and put more reporters on the job. There is a niche for "Asshole as Entertainer" (More like a canyon, but I digress...). PewDiePie does an obviously _awesome_ job in his effort to fill as much of that niche as possible. But whether Disney corporation, the peoples behind "Beauty and the Beast" and "Frozen", was planning to move into that niche, or just being careless about whether they were entering into that niche, _was_ a major business story. Nobody set out to destroy PewDiePie. The WSJ just _noticed_ him. And that caused the higher ups at Disney to actually pay attention to him...at which point the Rat realized that one of his minions had seriously fucked up. Whoever signed PewDiePie is probably chained up in the back of the "Its a Small World" attraction at Disney World, living on a diet of Dippin Dots and waffle cakes. Videos of his suffering are now shown to all marketing executives as part of their orientation.
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Post by heathenoxman on Mar 18, 2017 16:51:50 GMT
Yeesh what has become of our world when those losers are considered famous people? And all those YouTuber's are fake too. I only care about one review. My own. *fistbump*
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Post by Rhidor on Mar 18, 2017 17:04:17 GMT
He doesn't really add anything that hasn't already been said. It's the same frame-for-frame complaining once more.
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Post by roshan on Mar 18, 2017 17:43:09 GMT
Whilst YouTube is a good place to find video game critique, helped a lot by the fact that... y'know, you can see the footage, PewDiePie isn't a reviewer. Will it be damaging? Maybe. But like others have said, the people who watch him don't tend to have money, neither are they the primary demographic of Andromeda. So personally, I can't see it being a problem for Bioware.
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Post by vallixas on Mar 18, 2017 17:59:58 GMT
He was also "fired" from YouTube and Disney then went on some rant Explaining himself and how dishonest the media was in how they handled that situation and attempted to destroy his name over nothing is ranting? Well, me. I played the trial and those were not a thing. There were plenty of other animation issues I observed, but the duck lip and that weird squatty run I never saw. We must have played different trials. Farfromsubtle must have too as the problems were still there. Whilst YouTube is a good place to find video game critique, helped a lot by the fact that... y'know, you can see the footage, PewDiePie isn't a reviewer. Will it be damaging? Maybe. But like others have said, the people who watch him don't tend to have money, neither are they the primary demographic of Andromeda. So personally, I can't see it being a problem for Bioware. There's no question as to whether or not it will be damaging. Of course it is. Youtube.....lets plays and reaction videos are a great doorway for the casual market who normally do not spend time on the internet searching for video games. Popular youtubers matter. Do you think a game like 5 nights at freddies would've ever reached the popularity it did without the popular youtubers playing it? I'd even argue that Youtubers helped make Last of Us as popular as it is today. Casuals would've never invested the time it took to play a game like Last of Us. Lets plays brought in the casuals which boosted it's fame x10. Twitch and Youtube are extremely viable platforms for marketing video games.
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Post by hotdogbsg on Mar 18, 2017 18:07:49 GMT
I respect that everyone has an opinion but in terms of people whose opinions I value, PewDiePie is at the very bottom of the pile.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 18:22:24 GMT
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Post by jalis on Mar 18, 2017 18:34:06 GMT
PDP was unknown to me. I just keep in mind it is not a test or a review, but rather a satire. He point only bad side and makes easy fun with. It is valuable however, and allows a different view from Professional reviewers who are sometime suspect.
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Post by ToLazy4Name on Mar 18, 2017 18:45:58 GMT
He was also "fired" from YouTube wew lad you're a special kind of ignorant
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Post by Gaston on Mar 18, 2017 18:49:28 GMT
I used to not care about PewDiePie but after hearing about the controversy around him and his "antisemetic" jokes I just had to check him out and my god, the guy is way funnier than I thought.
And this video on MEA is also spot on and very funny.
Good to see PewDiePie has become a proper shitlord (or was he always this funny?).
I'm actually subscribed to him now.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 18:51:11 GMT
people find their level of engagement in entertainment. :gentleman:
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Post by Eshaye on Mar 18, 2017 18:57:31 GMT
Who cares what dufus on YouTube had to say. He had nothing to add or a single original thought about this game. Just jumping on the bandwagon for clicks. F that guy.
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Post by B. Hieronymus Da on Mar 18, 2017 20:06:42 GMT
There were three journalists, not one. Being serious for a moment, I can almost guarantee you that the original story idea was pretty much as I described. The WSJ runs a daily column they refer to as an "A-HED" on their front page. Its usually about something weird, or slightly comical, or sentimental. Sometimes it relates to a business. Sometimes it doesn't. My personal favorite of all time was an article about the factory that makes Necco wafers. Someone was probably assigned to write a classic WSJ "A-Hed" piece about PewDiePie based on some nebulous info heard by an editor. The reporter then rapidly turned up stuff that had the editor a interested in a very different kind of story, who promptly authorized a major piece and put more reporters on the job. There is a niche for "Asshole as Entertainer" (More like a canyon, but I digress...). PewDiePie does an obviously _awesome_ job in his effort to fill as much of that niche as possible. But whether Disney corporation, the peoples behind "Beauty and the Beast" and "Frozen", was planning to move into that niche, or just being careless about whether they were entering into that niche, _was_ a major business story. Nobody set out to destroy PewDiePie. The WSJ just _noticed_ him. And that caused the higher ups at Disney to actually pay attention to him...at which point the Rat realized that one of his minions had seriously fucked up. Whoever signed PewDiePie is probably chained up in the back of the "Its a Small World" attraction at Disney World, living on a diet of Dippin Dots and waffle cakes. Videos of his suffering are now shown to all marketing executives as part of their orientation. Nah. Your narrative doesn't fit the events.
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Post by smilesja on Mar 18, 2017 20:15:07 GMT
He was also "fired" from YouTube and Disney then went on some rant Explaining himself and how dishonest the media was in how they handled that situation and attempted to destroy his name over nothing is ranting? Well, me. I played the trial and those were not a thing. There were plenty of other animation issues I observed, but the duck lip and that weird squatty run I never saw. We must have played different trials. Farfromsubtle must have too as the problems were still there. Whilst YouTube is a good place to find video game critique, helped a lot by the fact that... y'know, you can see the footage, PewDiePie isn't a reviewer. Will it be damaging? Maybe. But like others have said, the people who watch him don't tend to have money, neither are they the primary demographic of Andromeda. So personally, I can't see it being a problem for Bioware. There's no question as to whether or not it will be damaging. Of course it is. Youtube.....lets plays and reaction videos are a great doorway for the casual market who normally do not spend time on the internet searching for video games. Popular youtubers matter. Do you think a game like 5 nights at freddies would've ever reached the popularity it did without the popular youtubers playing it? I'd even argue that Youtubers helped make Last of Us as popular as it is today. Casuals would've never invested the time it took to play a game like Last of Us. Lets plays brought in the casuals which boosted it's fame x10. Twitch and Youtube are extremely viable platforms for marketing video games. And a lot of Youtubers and twitch streamers seem to like ME: A so far.
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Post by B. Hieronymus Da on Mar 18, 2017 20:16:56 GMT
I respect that everyone has an opinion but in terms of people whose opinions I value, PewDiePie is at the very bottom of the pile. This is the proper reaction! Indeed. PDP is NOT a reviewer. - No way! Don't imagine he is. Also, he's not serious or honest about what he says. Not always and not verbatim. His humour is his own art, and not immediately understandable. As always, the language carries not only the message but also information on how the language should be understood.
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Post by Lorn on Mar 18, 2017 21:00:46 GMT
It's almost as if his whole gig depended on being controversial just to get millions of views. But it's not like tha- Oh, wait. Then again, maybe he should go back to playing Happy Wheels? That's about the one time I found his videos funny. Clearly making fun of MEA's horrible facial animations is just being "controversial" when almost every single person that has played it has mentioned the horrible animations. Do you know what would actually be controversial at this point? Someone saying that the animations are fantastic. ...no. It makes people who are not aware of or interested in the game go "Wow, this looks like unfinished garbage." and then go watch something else. And I mentioned my opinion about them in the second paragraph, did you miss that? Some people will of course think it looks bad, but there is those that will see it as "wow, a big youtuber is mention this game" and will see what it is about and if it is that bad. People know that he is a "entertainer". That is why they look at him. That would be true, if their searches of the game didn't also turn up other videos referencing the same issues. I'll wait for Jimquisition or Angry Joe full reviews, thanks. Oh look, another youtuber who's opinion is worthless... As for Jim: Notice anything familiar? Funny isn't it. People go on about how they love the plots and writing of Bioware, and it's all about the characters, unlike that immature COD crowd. And yet here we are, endless, endless posts about the animations (at least we've moved on from Sara being ugly) and nothing on the plot, writing or characters. Ho-hum. Then games like FO4 and Skyrim have dreadful facial animations but get a pass? "Oh HAHAHA BETHESDA You've done it again with your buggy mess and horrible character facial animations / writings BUT HERE IS $100 10/10"Double standards. Makes me sick to my stomach. I understand that it's their perspective and the only thing I can understand is the CC issue which I totally understand. But other than that, it's ridiculous. BUT MUH MODS! Bethesda's games are shit, but for now they don't get deserved criticism that BioWare gets. Ideally it will change. Then games like FO4 and Skyrim have dreadful facial animations but get a pass? "Oh HAHAHA BETHESDA You've done it again with your buggy mess and horrible character facial animations / writings BUT HERE IS $100 10/10" Double standards. Makes me sick to my stomach. I understand that it's their perspective and the only thing I can understand is the CC issue which I totally understand. But other than that, it's ridiculous. No? Fallout 4 didn't get a pass. If you were paying attention to the way people reacted back when the infamous Piper HATE NEWSPAPER footage got released you would remember how people reacted and said stuff like "THIS LOOKS NO BETTER THAN PS1 ANIMATION!". People just don't remember the animation nowadays because Fallout 4 has a lot more issues than just the facial animation.BUT MUH MODS! Of course, let's ignore the fact that Betehsda released a patch that essentially broke the Unofficial Patch for awhile (if not permanently).
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Post by kino on Mar 18, 2017 21:12:30 GMT
I'll wait for Jimquisition or Angry Joe full reviews, thanks. Oh look, another youtuber who's opinion is worthless... As for Jim: Notice anything familiar? You're comparing Jimquisition to a Nazi? That's hilarious and woefully ignorant. His schtick is, I believe, based on "V for Vendetta", but whatever. Think what you will. As for PDP I've long thought he was a moron, even before his most recent moronic behavior. Not a fan when he started his channel, not a fan now.
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Post by vonuber on Mar 18, 2017 21:15:23 GMT
Bethesda's games are shit, but for now they don't get deserved criticism that BioWare gets. Ideally it will change. Yeah, but they aren't though are they. If they were shit, they would not sell by the bucketload.
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Post by ToLazy4Name on Mar 18, 2017 21:26:45 GMT
Bethesda's games are shit, but for now they don't get deserved criticism that BioWare gets. Ideally it will change. Yeah, but they aren't though are they. If they were shit, they would not sell by the bucketload. No, they're pretty shit.
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