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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 2:48:25 GMT
So there are more Arks meant to be en route, including the conveniently delayed Quarian Ark carrying like every other Milky Way race on it. But this is what reminded me of something, during Tali's loyalty mission in ME2 when you tell her the Quarians should find another homeworld she mentions the difficulty of adjusting to their own environment and said it'd be "the difference between 60 years and 600" then Kesh mentions that the Krogan used their time in stasis to help combat the genophage. What if the Quarians did the same kind of thing, used their time to help combat their compromised immune systems and with 600 years like Tali said possibly be free of their suits meaning unmasked Quarians in Andromeda when (if) their Ark arrives.
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Post by dazk on Mar 19, 2017 4:50:43 GMT
Good pick up, hope you are right!!!!
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 19, 2017 5:52:45 GMT
That would be awesome! And this would give BioWare the opportunity to redeem themselves for Tali's appearance.
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Post by roseofquartz on Mar 19, 2017 10:36:49 GMT
I would love an offical and proper quarian appearance.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Mar 19, 2017 13:05:23 GMT
How about No.
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Post by Ianamus on Mar 19, 2017 14:13:01 GMT
I was thinking about this. But the suits are too distinctive, I can't see them completely doing away with them.
They may do what the did with the Krogan: a small genetic enhancement to slightly improve their condition, but not a complete cure.
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Post by Arcian on Mar 19, 2017 22:28:42 GMT
So there are more Arks meant to be en route, including the conveniently delayed Quarian Ark carrying like every other Milky Way race on it. But this is what reminded me of something, during Tali's loyalty mission in ME2 when you tell her the Quarians should find another homeworld she mentions the difficulty of adjusting to their own environment and said it'd be "the difference between 60 years and 600" then Kesh mentions that the Krogan used their time in stasis to help combat the genophage. What if the Quarians did the same kind of thing, used their time to help combat their compromised immune systems and with 600 years like Tali said possibly be free of their suits meaning unmasked Quarians in Andromeda when (if) their Ark arrives. This is just another example of BioWare being painfully oblivious to their own lore. Stasis suspends all activities in the body down to a subatomic level. That's how people stop aging - they are literally frozen down to atoms and subatomic particles. That also means that the genophage couldn't possibly be altered in stasis, because any change in the genophage requires functioning biological processes, which frozen in stasis. BioWare's shitty writing strikes again.
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Post by SwobyJ on Mar 20, 2017 2:43:44 GMT
I am almost certain that we'll see Quarians without their masks in either MEA DLC or a 'MEA2/whatever'.
All as part of Bioware figuring out what new stories they will tell with a fan-favorite race.
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Post by laxian on Mar 20, 2017 5:02:57 GMT
So there are more Arks meant to be en route, including the conveniently delayed Quarian Ark carrying like every other Milky Way race on it. But this is what reminded me of something, during Tali's loyalty mission in ME2 when you tell her the Quarians should find another homeworld she mentions the difficulty of adjusting to their own environment and said it'd be "the difference between 60 years and 600" then Kesh mentions that the Krogan used their time in stasis to help combat the genophage. What if the Quarians did the same kind of thing, used their time to help combat their compromised immune systems and with 600 years like Tali said possibly be free of their suits meaning unmasked Quarians in Andromeda when (if) their Ark arrives. This is just another example of BioWare being painfully oblivious to their own lore. Stasis suspends all activities in the body down to a subatomic level. That's how people stop aging - they are literally frozen down to atoms and subatomic particles. That also means that the genophage couldn't possibly be altered in stasis, because any change in the genophage requires functioning biological processes, which frozen in stasis. BioWare's shitty writing strikes again. Not really, we haven't figured out how to do stasis, so who knows what can and can't be done while you are in such a pod? I mean look at Grunt's gestation pod, that thing had stasis functionality, but it also educated Grunt by giving him his ancestors memories, basic combat training, it taught him how to speak etc. too greetings LAX ps: Not everything you don't like is "shitty writing" - sure not everything is "the best science fiction writing ever done", but it's not bad either IMHO!
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 21, 2017 5:21:54 GMT
It would be trivial to wake up a krogan for a bit administer treatment. The hard part is coming up with the treatment
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Post by sdzald on Mar 29, 2017 21:19:57 GMT
That would be awesome! And this would give BioWare the opportunity to redeem themselves for Tali's appearance. Tali has an appearance? I even romanced her in one of my play throughs and I never recall seeing her face.
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Post by sdzald on Mar 29, 2017 21:28:59 GMT
It would be trivial to wake up a krogan for a bit administer treatment. The hard part is coming up with the treatment I was under the impression that there really was no treatment that it was just a natural adaption by the Krogan, which takes time. I tend to agree with Arcian, sloppy writing, more wave of the hand 'just ignore' the plot holes by Bioware. Bioware isn't the only company that has these kind of story problems. They need to hire real writers instead of hacks like Mr Walters.
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 29, 2017 21:31:14 GMT
That would be awesome! And this would give BioWare the opportunity to redeem themselves for Tali's appearance. Tali has an appearance? I even romanced her in one of my play throughs and I never recall seeing her face. Tali gives Shepard a picture of herself. Look it up. People were dissatisfied because it was a stock photo of a model with some photoshopping done to it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 21:39:48 GMT
It would be trivial to wake up a krogan for a bit administer treatment. The hard part is coming up with the treatment I was under the impression that there really was no treatment that it was just a natural adaption by the Krogan, which takes time. I tend to agree with Arcian, sloppy writing, more wave of the hand 'just ignore' the plot holes by Bioware. Bioware isn't the only company that has these kind of story problems. They need to hire real writers instead of hacks like Mr Walters. Yeah its based on the natural adaptation but theres some gene therapy to help it along. Also synthesis shows you an obscured view of tali's face too.
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Post by sdzald on Mar 29, 2017 21:39:55 GMT
Tali has an appearance? I even romanced her in one of my play throughs and I never recall seeing her face. Tali gives Shepard a picture of herself. Look it up. People were dissatisfied because it was a stock photo of a model with some photoshopping done to it. Thanks for the info, I do remember the photo but for some reason never really paid much attention.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Mar 30, 2017 1:34:13 GMT
This is just another example of BioWare being painfully oblivious to their own lore. Stasis suspends all activities in the body down to a subatomic level. That's how people stop aging - they are literally frozen down to atoms and subatomic particles. That also means that the genophage couldn't possibly be altered in stasis, because any change in the genophage requires functioning biological processes, which frozen in stasis. BioWare's shitty writing strikes again. Not really, we haven't figured out how to do stasis, so who knows what can and can't be done while you are in such a pod? I mean look at Grunt's gestation pod, that thing had stasis functionality, but it also educated Grunt by giving him his ancestors memories, basic combat training, it taught him how to speak etc. too greetings LAX ps: Not everything you don't like is "shitty writing" - sure not everything is "the best science fiction writing ever done", but it's not bad either IMHO! Grunt might be held in the same kind of pod as the settlers, yes, but he was not in it from since birth. I doubt it. For Okeer to keep track and assess the progress of his experiment, he could not keep Grunt in stasis. Grunt could have been "born" in another pod and then transferred over to something else. As he grow and his brain became more mature, Okeer would have begun the process of input and assessment. The mature / ready Grunt would then be frozen and held in the pod where Shepard found him.
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Post by sdzald on Mar 30, 2017 15:33:08 GMT
It is my understanding that the Okeer Krogens were created full size, they were grown from genetic material that he manipulated to create the perfect Krogan. It amounted to a mechanical womb, it kept them alive and in a form of a coma, so that he could than program them. Those PODS were not stasis pods.
A stasis pod used for the voyage puts the body in a state of death, without actually killing the body. In essence suspending time, no need for food, air or other limited resources. Even brain activity is suspended as mentioned by one person coming out of stasis he states it just seemed like seconds ago he got in and he didn't even dream.
I think we are talking apples and oranges here, two totally different kinds of devices.
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Which gets us back to the original subject, if all body activity is suspend this would include cell regeneration etc. This precludes the ability for a body to geneticly adapt to anything as it is totally dormant.
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Post by Ianamus on Mar 30, 2017 15:58:38 GMT
Tali has an appearance? I even romanced her in one of my play throughs and I never recall seeing her face. Tali gives Shepard a picture of herself. Look it up. People were dissatisfied because it was a stock photo of a model with some photoshopping done to it. I don't know what you're talking about. There's no photo. :poker:
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 31, 2017 2:55:39 GMT
Tali gives Shepard a picture of herself. Look it up. People were dissatisfied because it was a stock photo of a model with some photoshopping done to it. I don't know what you're talking about. There's no photo. :poker: I never romanced Tali, and I've only been playing ME games since January 2016, but I've heard all the controversy.
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Post by CTPhipps on Mar 31, 2017 11:34:48 GMT
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Post by flyingovertrout on Mar 31, 2017 11:45:10 GMT
Ignoring the stock photo source shittiness of it, that's just a lame look for an alien in general. I doubt they'll do it because that stupid design is now canon and they don't want to re-rock that boat, but they really should go back to the early concept ideas and give us a proper quarian do-ver (Talimancers be damned): mattrhodesart.blogspot.ca/2013/07/concept-art-behind-scenes.html
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 11:56:25 GMT
a bit obscured but they clearly rolled with the stock photo as the foundation
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Post by mrobnoxiousuk on Mar 31, 2017 12:02:38 GMT
Ignoring the stock photo source shittiness of it, that's just a lame look for an alien in general. I doubt they'll do it because that stupid design is now canon and they don't want to re-rock that boat, but they really should go back to the early concept ideas and give us a proper quarian do-ver (Talimancers be damned): mattrhodesart.blogspot.ca/2013/07/concept-art-behind-scenes.htmlYou can stick your fingers in your ears and go "lalalalalla" that stock photo is still the canon representation of Quarians for the time being.
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Post by ymirr on Mar 31, 2017 12:09:34 GMT
Considering how Tali looked, I hope not. I want their masks on so I can pretend that's not a thing.
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Post by flyingovertrout on Mar 31, 2017 14:47:47 GMT
Ignoring the stock photo source shittiness of it, that's just a lame look for an alien in general. I doubt they'll do it because that stupid design is now canon and they don't want to re-rock that boat, but they really should go back to the early concept ideas and give us a proper quarian do-ver (Talimancers be damned): mattrhodesart.blogspot.ca/2013/07/concept-art-behind-scenes.htmlYou can stick your fingers in your ears and go "lalalalalla" that stock photo is still the canon representation of Quarians for the time being. What part of "I doubt they'll do it because that stupid design is now canon" did you struggle with?
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