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Post by fessels on Aug 15, 2016 22:29:33 GMT
She's my favorite romance in the game. My favorite part is the duel. En garde. The duel is my favourite part as well. I wonder what the outcome would have been if Josie hat not intervened. To me it ( with my limited knowledge on bladed weapons. ) clearly looked like the Inquisitors opponent was much better with the rapier. Any way, I was at first trying to romance Cass but some how I ended up romancing Josie.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 16, 2016 5:38:00 GMT
She's my favorite romance in the game. My favorite part is the duel. En garde. The duel is my favourite part as well. I wonder what the outcome would have been if Josie hat not intervened. To me it ( with my limited knowledge on bladed weapons. ) clearly looked like the Inquisitors opponent was much better with the rapier. Any way, I was at first trying to romance Cass but some how I ended up romancing Josie. Yeah, it seemed Otranto was merely toying with the Inquisitor in the duel at parts so without Josephine's intervention I think he would have won easily if he really got involved.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 16, 2016 5:40:48 GMT
For DA:I, Josephine is my second favorite romance. Cassandra is my beau. Josie is more of a story book princess type, but I never get the feeling she is fully committed to the relationship. Likes it's just a role she is playing. The sword fight is epic though. Love that. Cassandra feels more... sincere. And there is just something incredibly hot about a woman that can turn you on and scare the piss out of you at the same time. Maybe I'm just weird... I disagree. I think Josephine shows how fully committed to the relationship she was, especially in the romance quest. She always put her family first, even saying if she hadn't met you she might have considered the marriage. But because she met you and was in love with you she was not putting her family first with this, but was putting you first.
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Post by bardox on Aug 16, 2016 6:18:57 GMT
For DA:I, Josephine is my second favorite romance. Cassandra is my beau. Josie is more of a story book princess type, but I never get the feeling she is fully committed to the relationship. Likes it's just a role she is playing. The sword fight is epic though. Love that. Cassandra feels more... sincere. And there is just something incredibly hot about a woman that can turn you on and scare the piss out of you at the same time. Maybe I'm just weird... I disagree. I think Josephine shows how fully committed to the relationship she was, especially in the romance quest. She always put her family first, even saying if she hadn't met you she might have considered the marriage. But because she met you and was in love with you she was not putting her family first with this, but was putting you first. Seriously? You can't really believe that. She put your Inquisitor over her Family? Which is more likely to place her family is a higher position, marrying some random noble or hooking up with the Herald of Andraste savior of Thedas and leader of one of the most powerful military forces on the planet.? As Inquisitor you have sway over the whole continent. As the Herald you have the ear of every royal family and Chantry in Andrastian nations. Given her options, who would better benefit the family is clear. And it's not some jerk noble she barely knows.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 16, 2016 6:27:34 GMT
I disagree. I think Josephine shows how fully committed to the relationship she was, especially in the romance quest. She always put her family first, even saying if she hadn't met you she might have considered the marriage. But because she met you and was in love with you she was not putting her family first with this, but was putting you first. Seriously? You can't really believe that. She put your Inquisitor over her Family? Which is more likely to place her family is a higher position, marrying some random noble or hooking up with the Herald of Andraste savior of Thedas and leader of one of the most powerful military forces on the planet.? As Inquisitor you have sway over the whole continent. As the Herald you have the ear of every royal family and Chantry in Andrastian nations. Given her options, who would better benefit the family is clear. And it's not some jerk noble she barely knows. Yes, I can honestly believe that since it is abundantly clear that she is fully committed to you. Also, by the time you can even headcanon bringing up marriage you lost all of that and yet she stays with you because she loves you. Not the Herald of Andraste, you. Now if you want to talk about a LI that isn't fully committed to you, look no further than your LI of choice Cassandra. She dumps you if she becomes Divine because she is more committed to the Chantry than you. And the argument of she can't be with anyone because she is the Divine goes up in smoke since that is exactly what Leliana does if Divine and in a relationship with the Warden without receiving any real blowback, not that such things should matter.
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Post by bardox on Aug 16, 2016 6:55:06 GMT
Seriously? You can't really believe that. She put your Inquisitor over her Family? Which is more likely to place her family is a higher position, marrying some random noble or hooking up with the Herald of Andraste savior of Thedas and leader of one of the most powerful military forces on the planet.? As Inquisitor you have sway over the whole continent. As the Herald you have the ear of every royal family and Chantry in Andrastian nations. Given her options, who would better benefit the family is clear. And it's not some jerk noble she barely knows. Yes, I can honestly believe that since it is abundantly clear that she is fully committed to you. Also, by the time you can even headcanon bringing up marriage you lost all of that and yet she stays with you because she loves you. Not the Herald of Andraste, you. Now if you want to talk about a LI that isn't fully committed to you, look no further than your LI of choice Cassandra. She dumps you if she becomes Divine because she is more committed to the Chantry than you. And the argument of she can't be with anyone because she is the Divine goes up in smoke since that is exactly what Leliana does if Divine and in a relationship with the Warden without receiving any real blowback, not that such things should matter. When the duel occurs, You do have all the things I mentioned above. At the end, she has no other suitor to turn to. The nobleman in question has withdrawn his offer of marriage. If you play it right, you don't lose the Inquisition. It can remain a military power with your Inquisitor at the head. You have to screw things up to "lose everything". Leliana's reign as Divine is nothing but breaking rules whether she is hardened or not. It's not surprising she would not care for the rule of the Divine not being allowed a lover. And I never Romance Leliana. The one time I did she was just too damn creepy. Can't trust a spy in matters of the heart IMO. Cassandra as Divine on the other hand is different. She is a creature of rules and duty. She want to restore the Chantry to what it is suppose to be. She only leaves your Inquisitor is you make her Divine. Which when I romance her, I never make her Divine. I make a softened Leliana or Vivinne Divine. It's all up to you and your RP style. Make your decisions and live with the consequences. Same as every other LI choice in the series. The heart wants what the heart wants.
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Post by fessels on Aug 16, 2016 9:51:16 GMT
The duel is my favourite part as well. I wonder what the outcome would have been if Josie hat not intervened. To me it ( with my limited knowledge on bladed weapons. ) clearly looked like the Inquisitors opponent was much better with the rapier. Any way, I was at first trying to romance Cass but some how I ended up romancing Josie. Yeah, it seemed Otranto was merely toying with the Inquisitor in the duel at parts so without Josephine's intervention I think he would have won easily if he really got involved. Yeah that was my feeling to. My Inquisitor kept a stance as if he was holding his sword and shield, and I doubt that will work when wielding a Rapier. But in the end my Inquisitor proved his love for Josie none the less. 
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Post by jtav on Aug 16, 2016 22:20:58 GMT
I think Josephine clearly cares for the Inquisitor a great deal. An elf, dwarf, or qunari lover, particularly a female is a tremendous risk. The noble society still looks down on you. Would I have liked her to be more daring vis a vis Blackwall? Yes. But she is gambling quite a lot on the Inquisitor.
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Post by opuspace on Aug 16, 2016 23:48:31 GMT
If the topic of commitment in a relationship is being compared between Cassandra and Josephine it'd be an apples to oranges situation. Relationships are a cutomized thing between each pair (or more if you're in an open relationship). But I do think it offers something as to what people look for,are willing to stay for and where they will draw the line. Josephine's relationship makes me think of slow courting, the beginning of a beginning that comes pretty similar to the days of my grandparents when the guy went to the father of his sweetheart to ask for his blessing. There was a certain way to do it properly if it was expected for the marriage to last. But for anyone who truly wants to do it right, wants to make it memorable, what's a few rituals of courtesy to be with THE ONE? Cassandra's romance is...I'm going to call it a soldier's romance. You have the love of your life close to your heart but both the Inquisitor and her have a duty to the people that competes with their personal wishes. They don't have the luxury to settle down if there is need for them. Josephine does contribute to the Inquisition, but a Divine has no choice in having a life for herself, not if she's determined to help people who desperately need it. The passion and devotion is there, so any moments of closeness, of personal time should be grabbed because they may not get another chance. In short, to each their own. We can't declare for another what's a better relationship than another (so long as it's not abusive).
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 19, 2016 3:25:40 GMT
I think Josephine clearly cares for the Inquisitor a great deal. An elf, dwarf, or qunari lover, particularly a female is a tremendous risk. The noble society still looks down on you. Would I have liked her to be more daring vis a vis Blackwall? Yes. But she is gambling quite a lot on the Inquisitor. Out of curiosity, what do you mean by more daring like Thom Rainier?
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Post by jtav on Aug 20, 2016 0:52:58 GMT
I think Josephine clearly cares for the Inquisitor a great deal. An elf, dwarf, or qunari lover, particularly a female is a tremendous risk. The noble society still looks down on you. Would I have liked her to be more daring vis a vis Blackwall? Yes. But she is gambling quite a lot on the Inquisitor. Out of curiosity, what do you mean by more daring like Thom Rainier? I mean that I wish she had pursued the romance if she was interested. Him too, but he's not the one who occasionally slips into caring more about optics than the reality on the ground. Not that I particularly blame her. Her situation seems to be analogous to a young lady in the nineteenth century. Romance is part of her mental landscape, but marriage is more about alliances and property and heirs. She has to pursue her relationships carefully, both to avoid ruining her family and discrediting the Inquisition. The only reason that anything other than a male non-mage Trevelyan didn't ruin her was the exceptional circumstance of that person also being Herald/Inquisitor.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 31, 2016 1:42:35 GMT
Out of curiosity, what do you mean by more daring like Thom Rainier? I mean that I wish she had pursued the romance if she was interested. Him too, but he's not the one who occasionally slips into caring more about optics than the reality on the ground. Not that I particularly blame her. Her situation seems to be analogous to a young lady in the nineteenth century. Romance is part of her mental landscape, but marriage is more about alliances and property and heirs. She has to pursue her relationships carefully, both to avoid ruining her family and discrediting the Inquisition. The only reason that anything other than a male non-mage Trevelyan didn't ruin her was the exceptional circumstance of that person also being Herald/Inquisitor. Well, the love interests not pursuing us and us having to pursue all of them is most likely a reaction on Bioware's part to the backlash caused by Ander's romance. Plus, even if they did have some LIs pursue us I don't think Josephine would be one. After all, in the confession scene she mentions how she didn't realize your flirts were genuine ones rather than you simply being nice. Not surprising since Josie has never been in that kind of situation before, being an innocent in love as Leliana called her.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 10, 2016 1:46:09 GMT
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Post by fessels on Sept 10, 2016 9:46:50 GMT
LoL good one, that would be one heck of a way to visit Josie.
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Post by thats1evildude on Sept 22, 2016 3:15:59 GMT
I found some really nice Josephine fanart. But I should warn you — it is highly scandalous! It depicts her bare shoulders and everything! elyngontier.deviantart.com/art/Josephine-635360188(No, I still can't figure out how to link images from Deviantart. YOU'RE NOT MY SUPERVISOR!)
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Post by fessels on Sept 22, 2016 5:14:14 GMT
I found some really nice Josephine fanart. But I should warn you — it is highly scandalous! It depicts her bare shoulders and everything! elyngontier.deviantart.com/art/Josephine-635360188(No, I still can't figure out how to link images from Deviantart. YOU'RE NOT MY SUPERVISOR!) How dare they show that filth on that site!? But the jokes aside, that looks great, the author is extremely talented.
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Post by thats1evildude on Sept 22, 2016 5:33:43 GMT
What I know about Spanish culture could fill a thimble, but I think that she's wearing a Spanish mantilla. Could be wrong, though.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 22, 2016 8:14:49 GMT
I found some really nice Josephine fanart. But I should warn you — it is highly scandalous! It depicts her bare shoulders and everything! elyngontier.deviantart.com/art/Josephine-635360188(No, I still can't figure out how to link images from Deviantart. YOU'RE NOT MY SUPERVISOR!) Here you go: 
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 22, 2016 8:17:04 GMT
What I know about Spanish culture could fill a thimble, but I think that she's wearing a Spanish mantilla. Could be wrong, though. Did you ask this on the site? I see a suspiciously similar comment there. 
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Post by thats1evildude on Sept 22, 2016 15:42:08 GMT
A comment by a guy named GigglingGhast? There's no way that can be me.
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Post by Element Zero on Sept 23, 2016 4:58:07 GMT
After seeing the romance content in Trespasser for Cassandra and Solas (tragic but significant), and reading about Cullen and Sera, I was surprised to find nothing of significance for Josie. I always thought a male Trevelyan+Montilyet relationship made a ton of sense, in-game, and that maybe the other versions of the relationship would just reap the bounty that Trespasser provided.
Alas, there was no bounty. The male Trevelyan+Josie relationship ended up making no sense at all, really. It seemed almost casual, in the end, which would be incredibly inappropriate for people of their station. It didn't make much sense for one with her dedication to etiquette and social norms. Josie, of all the NPCs, is the one I'd have expected to have been married, under the correct circumstances. Maybe they didn't want to be burdened with varied endings for her romance arc, with the outcry from her fans who didn't get a lore-wrecking wedding because of their inquisitor's race or gender. Whatever the case, it was definitely a minor hiccup in the storyline. I don't get too invested in the romance arcs, generally, because they're typically simplistic and at least a bit lame. DAI's were surprisingly good, and really added to the Inquisitor's journey. It's a shame Josie's didn't end just so.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 23, 2016 5:16:21 GMT
After seeing the romance content in Trespasser for Cassandra and Solas (tragic but significant), and reading about Cullen and Sera, I was surprised to find nothing of significance for Josie. I always thought a male Trevelyan+Montilyet relationship made a ton of sense, in-game, and that maybe the other versions of the relationship would just reap the bounty that Trespasser provided. Alas, there was no bounty. The male Trevelyan+Josie relationship ended up making no sense at all, really. It seemed almost casual, in the end, which would be incredibly inappropriate for people of their station. It didn't make much sense for one with her dedication to etiquette and social norms. Josie, of all the NPCs, is the one I'd have expected to have been married, under the correct circumstances. Maybe they didn't want to be burdened with varied endings for her romance arc, with the outcry from her fans who didn't get a lore-wrecking wedding because of their inquisitor's race or gender. Whatever the case, it was definitely a minor hiccup in the storyline. I don't get too invested in the romance arcs, generally, because they're typically simplistic and at least a bit lame. DAI's were surprisingly good, and really added to the Inquisitor's journey. It's a shame Josie's didn't end just so. Well, from what her writer Sylvia said it isn't so much that Josephine wouldn't want to get married, and she says she is in complete support of anyone who sees them getting married, but that she wouldn't want to elope right then and there. With how much her family means to her, she'd want to have them present. And with how she is with planning parties, she'd want to make sure everything was as good as it could be. So while I am severely disappointed, I understand the reasoning behind it. What upsets me more and don't understand is why you can't even bring it up in dialogue unlike most other romances. You can say you're thinking about it to Cassandra like with all LIs, but with Josie not a word. Even The Iron Bull has a discussion about it in Trespasser. That said, Trespasser did have some good stuff regarding her romance. Like Cullen, she comforts you when your hand hurts in the scene before going to the Darvaraad. I also like how involved she is in the DLC, facing down Orlais and Ferelden with you. It's no different than if not in a romance, but the fact you and her are being a couple standing with each other was really fun.
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Found this gem:-  The biggest tragedy here is that there currently exist no fanfiction where this sort of thing happens. Oh, I'm sure that my Lavellan taught Cassie to speak Elven, and thusly they ended up having of those kind of things . Much Trevelyan and joise, however, just hand to made do with speaking English, lol.
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Post by Toyish Batphone on Oct 6, 2016 14:08:34 GMT
Found this gem:-  The biggest tragedy here is that there currently exist no fanfiction where this sort of thing happens. Oh, I'm sure that my Lavellan taught Cassie to speak Elven, and thusly they ended up having of those kind of things . Much Trevelyan and joise, however, just hand to made do with speaking English, lol. I hope you do know that this is Josie's thread and there is a separate thread about Cassandra...
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