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Post by vertigomez on Mar 23, 2017 23:30:31 GMT
Nightscrawl Was wondering that myself. I kind of thought it was, "we'll lose money if we tell you this (because you might change your mind about your purchase)" Sansheeโ @teamsanshee๐ถ Happy #NationalPuppyDay! Doggos are so important.
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Mar 24, 2017 0:23:22 GMT
A quick google search on "revenue recognition" isn't especially helpful to my non-accountant brain, but this is what I found as a general definition for the term: So maybe this is in regards to questions like "So how much money did Dragon Age Inquisition actually make, anyway?" If BioWare/EA hasn't released that information to their investors yet, but an employee tells some random person (possibly incorrectly because they don't have all the facts themselves) on the internet "Oh, yeah, we made $xx,xxx,xxx.xx", it could cause problems for the company. Any actual financial people here who can explain it better? Thanks!
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Post by Nightscrawl on Mar 24, 2017 0:31:57 GMT
Sansheeโ @teamsanshee๐ถ Happy #NationalPuppyDay! Am I the only one that thinks the smaller one is cuter? I have one and it is freaking adorable. The larger one just looks a bit off, for some reason. I liken it to those ginormous, record-setting pumpkins that you hear about every so often. To me they just look deformed, whereas their normal counterparts are nice.
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Post by nhadalie on Mar 24, 2017 4:15:45 GMT
A quick google search on "revenue recognition" isn't especially helpful to my non-accountant brain, but this is what I found as a general definition for the term: So maybe this is in regards to questions like "So how much money did Dragon Age Inquisition actually make, anyway?" If BioWare/EA hasn't released that information to their investors yet, but an employee tells some random person (possibly incorrectly because they don't have all the facts themselves) on the internet "Oh, yeah, we made $xx,xxx,xxx.xx", it could cause problems for the company. Any actual financial people here who can explain it better? Thanks! I am not completely familiar with the conversation thus far, but I have a bachelor's degree in Business Administration with a focus in Human Resources. There are certain guidelines to reporting finances, some of which are governed by GAAP, some are governed by other laws. If the company has investors/is a publicly traded company, they are required to release certain information regularly (generally quarterly) to investors (So they can judge whether to keep their stock in the company or not.), along with any dividends agreed to when the stock was purchased. They are not required to make this information public to non-stockholders as far as I am aware. It usually consists of information to show how well the company is doing. From a HR perspective: Anyone who works at Bioware/EA who shares private company information such as financial information without it being approved would probably get fired at least. If not sued. Financial information is generally not public knowledge, because it involves a lot of privacy issues.(Such as how much employees are being paid, how much it costs to produce products, the costs of upkeep/maintaining warehouses and production facilities, etc.) We are only able to gauge how much people should be paid for a job position because people report it freely. Otherwise it could violate privacy laws. Something important to keep in mind is that Revenue as an accounting term is specifically the money they made from each product sold. It is not profit. It does not take any expenses into account, nor does it match the price that we pay for each game. For example, they may have gotten $60 per game for each game sold on Origin within the first 4 months or so. On the other hand, games sold through outside retailers will have given the company themselves a much smaller revenue. This is just a small overview. There's a lot that goes into accounting/finances once you get into the topic. I am going to keep it brief and leave it at this.
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Mar 24, 2017 4:26:54 GMT
^ Thanks, nhadalie , for sharing your knowledge. The conversation stemmed from a series of tweets that Mark Darrah originally made in 2015 but just reposted as a twitter moment earlier today. Basically, he was listing 8 reasons why BioWare devs might not answer fan questions - the third reason he suggested was "The information would trigger a revenue recognition issue," and some people were wondering what that might mean. So I tried to find out what "revenue recognition" meant to try to figure out what Mark meant with that one.
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Post by nhadalie on Mar 24, 2017 4:37:30 GMT
^ Thanks, nhadalie , for sharing your knowledge. The conversation stemmed from a series of tweets that Mark Darrah originally made in 2015 but just reposted as a twitter moment earlier today. Basically, he was listing 8 reasons why BioWare devs might not answer fan questions - the third reason he suggested was "The information would trigger a revenue recognition issue," and some people were wondering what that might mean. So I tried to find out what "revenue recognition" meant to try to figure out what Mark meant with that one. From the context of that, I would say that it involves private company information he is not allowed to share. There's a lot of issues that can stem from releasing financial information. It can cause a lot of problems with competing companies, who will then try to push the company out of the market. (By leveraging whatever they can to reduce competition in the market, they can earn a larger part of the video game market and make more money.) I don't know if it's really that cutthroat in the gaming market, but it could be. Reducing competition is pretty much something every company wants to do to stay relevant, and continue to make a profit/maintain their company's value. I hope my explanation helped. I've never heard the exact term "revenue recognition", it's not one that they taught in my classes. But to be fair, I only have a general education in finance and accounting. (There's a few specific classes we were required to take. Like General accounting, etc.) There's a lot of terminology that they use in business. Some of it's silly and really basic sounding, imho. And some of it really doesn't make sense outside of business.
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Mar 24, 2017 4:46:28 GMT
From the context of that, I would say that it involves private company information he is not allowed to share. There's a lot of issues that can stem from releasing financial information. It can cause a lot of problems with competing companies, who will then try to push the company out of the market. (By leveraging whatever they can to reduce competition in the market, they can earn a larger part of the video game market and make more money.) I don't know if it's really that cutthroat in the gaming market, but it could be. Reducing competition is pretty much something every company wants to do to stay relevant, and continue to make a profit/maintain their company's value. I hope my explanation helped. I've never heard the exact term "revenue recognition", it's not one that they taught in my classes. But to be fair, I only have a general education in finance and accounting. (There's a few specific classes we were required to take. Like General accounting, etc.) There's a lot of terminology that they use in business. Some of it's silly and really basic sounding, imho. And some of it really doesn't make sense outside of business. I figured it had to do with releasing financial information of some sort, but I wasn't very eloquent! Your answer is much more so.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Mar 24, 2017 21:00:14 GMT
Revenue recognition is a particular issue for software companies with respect to how they forecast and book revenue on a quarterly basis. Wall Street analysts prefer companies to have predictable revenue quarter over quarter. For example, while there is an expected spike around the holidays, the other three quarters should have fairly predictable revenue. For sure, you don't want an up quarter followed by a down quarter, that looks bad to Wall Street and investors. This means that software release schedules have to be very carefully planned, across the entire EA portfolio, so there aren't ups and downs that aren't expected.
If something is said about a software project that constitutes an announcement, that could trigger revenue recognition in a quarter earlier than planned. That means more revenue happens early, and less later, which could lead to that up quarter followed by down quarter problem I mentioned.
Or perhaps it's simply having to recognize revenue for a product that isn't actually generating revenue will look bad to investors. DA4 revenue for for Q1-17 ... a big fat 0.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Mar 24, 2017 21:05:08 GMT
Catching up on some Patrick Weekes tweets:
Patrick Weekes @patrickweekes
Next novel has an organization of heroic people, and I WANT to call them paladins, but that's probably off the table now, THANKS VOLTRON.
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As my internal pitch to myself was, "What if the Musketeers had laser blasters?", the doc title is "Blasketeers."
Probably not final.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Mar 24, 2017 21:16:44 GMT
Mike Laidlaw @mike_Laidlaw "TOSS THAT SALAD!" was something I just wrote in a professional communication, which is a thing, let me tell you.
Benoit Houleโ @benoit_Houle Benoit Houle Retweeted CNET @biomarkdarrah here you go Sir. You can now emojis dinosaurs eating dinosaurs
Mark Darrahโ @biomarkdarrah @benoit_Houle finally
Mike Laidlaw @mike_Laidlaw @biomarkdarrah @benoit_Houle Now he just needs a suite of "bus" and "relative position" emojis, such as "on" or "under."
Benoit Houleโ @benoit_Houle @mike_Laidlaw @biomarkdarrah laughing uncontrollably here ๐
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Post by lynroy on Mar 25, 2017 2:44:50 GMT
Mike Laidlawโ @mike_Laidlaw Today was one of those days for @biomarkdarrah, @benoit_Houle and I that @patrickweekes thinks of as โDr. Strangeโ days.
Mark Darrahโ @biomarkdarrah thank you for the incredible effort
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Mar 26, 2017 5:17:17 GMT
Mike Laidlawโ @mike_LaidlawToday was one of those days for @biomarkdarrah, @benoit_Houle and I that @patrickweekes thinks of as โDr. Strangeโ days. Mark Darrahโ @biomarkdarrahthank you for the incredible effort They were probably helping Mark shift offices while in Marvel cosplay. TOTALLY not working on DA4, cos that hasn't been confirmed...
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Mar 26, 2017 21:23:12 GMT
Patrick Weekes @patrickweekes @biomarkdarrah I accidentally designed a minigame system last night instead of, you know, sleeping.
Mark Darrahโ @biomarkdarrah @patrickweekes a system to make minigames?
Patrick Weekesโ @patrickweekes @biomarkdarrah I mailed you. Not sure why my brain thought we had to do it right at 2am, but here we are!
Mark Darrah @biomarkdarrah @patrickweekes I sent something related to @ Daniel_Kading last week.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 27, 2017 13:30:48 GMT
While facial animation in DAI had its derpy moments I have to say it's hard for me to wrap my brain around Epler doing Solas facial expression and the subtle, nuanced differences between a romanced Solas and a not-romanced Solas in Trespasser, and what I saw in Andromeda. I like Andromeda so far, it's the first ME game for me but it's nowhere near DA levels of writing or animating. Imo. Ken Thain as cinematic director, fangirl as animator and Mac Walters as the "and it's a wrap!" guy. What could possibly have gone wrong, I wonder?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2017 19:39:16 GMT
This is actually old, April of 2015, but just recently packaged up into a "moment". twitter.com/i/moments/844959775003623424(Numbering below is intentional) Mark Darrah @biomarkdarrah Why aren't we answering?! So reasons why we may not answer your question: 1. We can not because of a contractual obligation 2. We can not because of SEC or other regulatory laws 3. The information would trigger a revenue recognition issue 5. We don't know the answer 6. We are avoiding bad news. We try to avoid doing this because it rarely works out. But it does happen on occasion. 7. You asked it a way that didn't make someone want to answer. Be nice, please 8. The question got lost. This is not an excuse to SPAM your questions, however. 4. Its a surprise To summarize... ALL OF THE ABOVE.
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Post by thats1evildude on Mar 27, 2017 21:19:12 GMT
Here's some silliness that's tangentially DA-related:
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Mar 27, 2017 22:37:22 GMT
Nah, Cullen's more like Creme Brulee. A little charred and singed after getting captured and tortured in DAO.
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Post by spiritofsolace on Mar 28, 2017 0:43:39 GMT
Nah, Cullen's more like Creme Brulee. A little charred and singed after getting captured and tortured in DAO. Wouldn't that make him mildly interesting though?
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Post by thats1evildude on Mar 28, 2017 0:51:10 GMT
Clearly the best love interests are the ones who abandon you to plot genocide. ๐
Here's a sketch Mike retweeted:
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Post by midnight tea on Mar 28, 2017 0:56:05 GMT
Clearly the best love interests are the ones who abandon you to plot genocide. ๐ Hey, the prospect of imminent apocalypse is attractive in its quirky way.
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Mar 28, 2017 1:03:10 GMT
Clearly the best love interests are the ones who abandon you to plot genocide. ๐ Hey, the prospect of imminent apocalypse is attractive in its quirky way. It's invigorating, at the very least. "How can I stop this from happening?"
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Post by midnight tea on Mar 28, 2017 1:14:48 GMT
Hey, the prospect of imminent apocalypse is attractive in its quirky way. It's invigorating, at the very least. "How can I stop this from happening?" It's the uncertainty that keeps us at the edge of the seat
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Post by spiritofsolace on Mar 28, 2017 2:21:39 GMT
Clearly the best love interests are the ones who abandon you to plot genocide. ๐ Aww man, sorry for insulting your boyfriend.
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Post by thats1evildude on Mar 28, 2017 2:33:58 GMT
Clearly the best love interests are the ones who abandon you to plot genocide. Aww man, sorry for insulting your boyfriend.ย DON'T MOCK OUR LOVE ๐
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Post by thats1evildude on Mar 28, 2017 17:43:28 GMT
Cover art for Issue 2 of Knight Errant!
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