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Post by midnight tea on Apr 1, 2017 8:21:27 GMT
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If DA4 happens please bring back my warden! please! Mike Laidlaw @mike_Laidlaw
While I know this upsets some folks, I have already made it clear that I will not be doing this. Half of "the" wardens are dead. Rob Ryder Robtachi
I don't understand it. Does anyone expect something GOOD to happen to our Wardens if they return? Do they KNOW @patrickweekes? Mike Laidlaw @mike_Laidlaw
It’s true. He keeps a monkey’s paw at his desk for this kind of request. Much as I love my Sereda Aeducan.... Just bring back the Inquisitor to finish their involvement with the Dread Wolf, and I'll be good. I would like to point out that requests to bring Inquisitor back so far don't end with response like the one above Usually they either dance around the issue or are winking at us, soooo.... there's hope? I mean, unlike the Warden, the Inquisitor still has a strongly implied role in future events. I'm curious to see what's the extent of it.
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Post by gervaise21 on Apr 1, 2017 11:05:09 GMT
The advantage that the Inquisitor holds in having a possible return is that in no case are they dead. No matter what your choices are in the game, they survived to fight another day. I believe the writers have also confirmed that removing the hand would not be an insurmountable barrier to their involvement in the future. What Trespasser did was round off their story as the Inquisitor; that is as the head of a Thedas-wide organisation of tremendous power. Whatever you opt to do at the end of Trespasser, that institution is now gone. It also explained why you no longer have anchor and thus have lost the ability to open and close the Fade at will. I wonder if they would give them a different title if they did return or revert to the label of "Herald". To my mind that wouldn't be applicable either without the anchor.
What I think they may do is simply have the former Inquisitor present in the story as a disembodied voice, via their contact with the new PC. Still something along those lines would fulfil the requirement for the Inquisitor to still be involved and yet not have to expend vast resources on animating them. Alternatively, they would appear at the very end, once the new PC had tracked down Solas, in order to finally confront him once again.
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Post by Rascoth on Apr 1, 2017 12:07:59 GMT
People putting the Warden on this pedestal has made me want to kill mine off >.>. I'm still contemplating switching around my canon play. I actually did that.
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Post by vertigomez on Apr 1, 2017 15:11:03 GMT
Haley Amber @hey_its_h_GIVE ME MY ROMANCEABLE DWARF OR GIVE ME DEATH! Mark Darrah @biomarkdarrahi.imgur.com/wKqlkUL.gif Jesse Hicks @piet_Depsi
If you were to bring one DA companion back as a companion in DA4, who would it be? Would really love your opinion. Mike Laidlaw @mike_Laidlaw
Can I say Harding? I think I’d say Harding. This all depends on the existence of a DA4, however. People putting the Warden on this pedestal has made me want to kill mine off >.>. I'm still contemplating switching around my canon play. I really did love my Warden but I'd kill him off if it weren't for Kieran.
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Post by Gilli on Apr 1, 2017 17:34:44 GMT
People putting the Warden on this pedestal has made me want to kill mine off >.>. I'm still contemplating switching around my canon play. Whenever I read these kind of comments, I think of my two Wardens and in my head I hear them say:
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Apr 1, 2017 19:18:10 GMT
Jovi Lee goofbonjovi
If DA4 happens please bring back my warden! please! Mike Laidlaw @mike_Laidlaw
While I know this upsets some folks, I have already made it clear that I will not be doing this. Half of "the" wardens are dead. Rob Ryder Robtachi
I don't understand it. Does anyone expect something GOOD to happen to our Wardens if they return? Do they KNOW @patrickweekes? Mike Laidlaw @mike_Laidlaw
It’s true. He keeps a monkey’s paw at his desk for this kind of request. Rob Ryder's reply is the best ever. I'm going to have to quote that every time the BBTHoF (take a shot) happens. And only half, really? How many let Alistair/Loghain take the fall? How many trusted that ... witch Morrigan?
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Post by thats1evildude on Apr 1, 2017 20:09:17 GMT
I would bet that close to two-thirds of Wardens are alive. I'm one of them. I trusted that witch, and I'm glad I did.
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Post by midnight tea on Apr 1, 2017 20:25:50 GMT
I would bet that close to two-thirds of Wardens are alive. I'm one of them. I trusted that witch, and I'm glad I did. You have a bet - but they have all the data. If they know how many people have chosen human or dwarf background, they know how many Wardens are dead.
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Post by Hrungr on Apr 1, 2017 21:01:10 GMT
Jovi Lee goofbonjovi
If DA4 happens please bring back my warden! please! Mike Laidlaw @mike_Laidlaw
While I know this upsets some folks, I have already made it clear that I will not be doing this. Half of "the" wardens are dead. Rob Ryder Robtachi
I don't understand it. Does anyone expect something GOOD to happen to our Wardens if they return? Do they KNOW @patrickweekes? Mike Laidlaw @mike_Laidlaw
It’s true. He keeps a monkey’s paw at his desk for this kind of request. PathfinderVasTempest @n7spectre93I thought necromancy was ok though? Just bring that half back from the dead 😂 maybe if you ask Dorian nicely he'll say yes lol Mike Laidlaw @mike_LaidlawHey ya’ll? We’re gonna need more monkey paws. Like, several dozen. - Stop giving him ideas!!
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Post by midnight tea on Apr 1, 2017 21:51:48 GMT
Jovi Lee goofbonjovi
If DA4 happens please bring back my warden! please! Mike Laidlaw @mike_Laidlaw
While I know this upsets some folks, I have already made it clear that I will not be doing this. Half of "the" wardens are dead. Rob Ryder Robtachi
I don't understand it. Does anyone expect something GOOD to happen to our Wardens if they return? Do they KNOW @patrickweekes? Mike Laidlaw @mike_Laidlaw
It’s true. He keeps a monkey’s paw at his desk for this kind of request. PathfinderVasTempest @n7spectre93I thought necromancy was ok though? Just bring that half back from the dead 😂 maybe if you ask Dorian nicely he'll say yes lol Mike Laidlaw @mike_LaidlawHey ya’ll? We’re gonna need more monkey paws. Like, several dozen. - Stop giving him ideas!! Honestly? I'd be really interested to see what would "Dragon Age: Every Idea Thrown At Us On Internet Ever" look like - I'm pretty sure it'd be like someone doused the Fade in alcohol, thrown us and some fireworks into it and then just lit the whole thing
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Post by midnight tea on Apr 1, 2017 23:17:00 GMT
Daniel Kading daniel _KadingI tighten up the graphics on Level 3. #explainyourjobbadly ------ ...Oh I do hope that ain't April Fools' joke! Because if not... guys, there are graphics! And levels!
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Post by Nightscrawl on Apr 1, 2017 23:43:14 GMT
^ I thought it was just a general description, to be honest. He's probably worked on numerous "level 3" designs.
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Apr 2, 2017 1:32:07 GMT
Bunch o' DA-related tweets from the past couple of days.
User 1 I just noticed this black spot on my watch. It's under the glass, I can't wipe it off. Any ideas about what it is and how to fix it?
Patrick Weekes I'm sorry. Your watch has begun to hear the Calling. Soon it will be time for the final feast and the journey to the Deep Roads.
User 1 NOOOOOOOO
User 2 Maybe it's just a fake Calling and all you have to do is kill a giant bad guy in wicked witch heels. #Hopeful
Patrick Weekes Or maybe it's a fake Calling because User 1's watch is a fake Warden and it's gonna run off after sex because one time it killed some kids.
User 1 NOW I HAVE TO SYMBOLICALLY DESTROY MY WATCH PATRICK THANKS
User 2 *bows deeply* You're awesome, Patrick.
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Apr 2, 2017 1:35:51 GMT
User How did Solas learn Qunlat? @mike_Laidlaw @bioware @patrickweekes
Patrick Weekes Being stuck Observer Mode in the Fade for a few centuries gives you a lot of time to pick up new skills.
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Post by lynroy on Apr 2, 2017 4:55:01 GMT
Justin Puckett @sithlordxanthos If they made a DA movie, what would you like it to be about? Director? Studio?
Mike Laidlaw @mike_Laidlaw Two and a half hours of Duncan combing his beard while telling stories, directed by Wes Anderson.
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Post by spiritofsolace on Apr 2, 2017 5:07:07 GMT
So does this confirm that the "frilly cakes" Solas had in Orlais where chocolate? Very important. I always wanted to know.
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Post by Rascoth on Apr 2, 2017 7:31:28 GMT
Justin Puckett @sithlordxanthosIf they made a DA movie, what would you like it to be about? Director? Studio? Mike Laidlaw @mike_LaidlawTwo and a half hours of Duncan combing his beard while telling stories, directed by Wes Anderson. Mike Laidlaw @mike_Laidlaw"The Grand Minrathous Hotel" That's the only type of DA movie I'd accept
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Post by vertigomez on Apr 2, 2017 15:54:00 GMT
Bunch o' DA-related tweets from the past couple of days. User 1I just noticed this black spot on my watch. It's under the glass, I can't wipe it off. Any ideas about what it is and how to fix it? Patrick WeekesI'm sorry. Your watch has begun to hear the Calling. Soon it will be time for the final feast and the journey to the Deep Roads. User 1NOOOOOOOO User 2Maybe it's just a fake Calling and all you have to do is kill a giant bad guy in wicked witch heels. #Hopeful Patrick WeekesOr maybe it's a fake Calling because User 1's watch is a fake Warden and it's gonna run off after sex because one time it killed some kids. User 1NOW I HAVE TO SYMBOLICALLY DESTROY MY WATCH PATRICK THANKS User 2 *bows deeply* You're awesome, Patrick. Patrick WeekesBlackwall is an extremely well-written character who generated a lot of emotion for me. Some of that emotion involved leaving him to rot. ...I laughed. Time to summon the Blackwall thread.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Apr 2, 2017 16:57:01 GMT
UserHow did Solas learn Qunlat? @mike_Laidlaw @bioware @patrickweekes Patrick WeekesBeing stuck Observer Mode in the Fade for a few centuries gives you a lot of time to pick up new skills. Holy F--K! Did PW just confirm a detail of lore that has been debated ferociously for years? How can someone in "a slumber" (Solas's words, which we assume means uthenera) be in "observer mode for centuries"? Wouldn't the elves go mad if they were conscious for all those centuries? Is uthenera not the suspended animation we assumed? Or was Solas not in uthenera? If Solas were conscious and an observer, it would neatly fill a plot hole in The Masked Empire, particularly if Solas could not only observe the material world, but effect it as well. Effect it enough to punish someone ...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2017 17:57:38 GMT
UserHow did Solas learn Qunlat? @mike_Laidlaw @bioware @patrickweekes Patrick WeekesBeing stuck Observer Mode in the Fade for a few centuries gives you a lot of time to pick up new skills. Holy F--K! Did PW just confirm a detail of lore that has been debated ferociously for years? How can someone in "a slumber" (Solas's words, which we assume means uthenera) be in "observer mode for centuries"? Wouldn't the elves go mad if they were conscious for all those centuries? Is uthenera not the suspended animation we assumed? Or was Solas not in uthenera? If Solas were conscious and an observer, it would neatly fill a plot hole in The Masked Empire, particularly if Solas could not only observe the material world, but effect it as well. Effect it enough to punish someone ... Isn't that the whole point of uthenera - that the mind wanders the Fade awake and aware, just observing and gathering wisdom, while the body is earthbound in stasis? Not everyone survived the process, but Masked Empire spoke of elders who could be wakened to offer advice. Felassan seemed pretty upset about that sleeper they found that was murdered.
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Post by midnight tea on Apr 2, 2017 18:12:27 GMT
UserHow did Solas learn Qunlat? @mike_Laidlaw @bioware @patrickweekes Patrick WeekesBeing stuck Observer Mode in the Fade for a few centuries gives you a lot of time to pick up new skills. Holy F--K! Did PW just confirm a detail of lore that has been debated ferociously for years? How can someone in "a slumber" (Solas's words, which we assume means uthenera) be in "observer mode for centuries"? Wouldn't the elves go mad if they were conscious for all those centuries? Is uthenera not the suspended animation we assumed? Or was Solas not in uthenera? If Solas were conscious and an observer, it would neatly fill a plot hole in The Masked Empire, particularly if Solas could not only observe the material world, but effect it as well. Effect it enough to punish someone ... The uthenera is suspended animation for the body. The mind drifts in the Fade - consciously in case of mages or Dreamers. Heck - every person capable of dreaming in Thedas does that while they're asleep. The difference between simple sleep and uthenera is that the latter can last or millenia (though even in that case there are elves who do it better than others, as those less skilled have to be fed, while those who are accomplished sustain on Fade alone). So yes - Solas was conscious in Uthenera, if not at all times then for very, very long. edit: As for "wouldn't the elves go mad if they were conscious for all those centuries?" - well, maybe from perspective of a human. But ancient elves were immortal. Plus... you know - if they're bored out of their mind there's probably enough to do in the Fade to keep things fresh, to an extent. Like learning new languages
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Post by theblackadder13 on Apr 2, 2017 18:44:15 GMT
I don't see why elves -- or even humans -- would go mad in uthenera -- you can pretty much do whatever the hell you want in the Fade. Worst case scenario -- you're just having a really good lucid dream for a few hundred centuries.
As for the warden, I've never really been convinced with any of their reasoning for not bringing the Warden back. Don't get me wrong, I'm not dead set on the Warden returning but I'd be open to it (provided it's not a repeat of the Hawke cameo where he acted out of character for many players) as long as we had some degree of control over the character. It was originally supposed to be the Warden returning for Hear Lies the Abyss alongside Hawke instead of Alistair/Loghain/Stroud but they didn't because they didn't want to voice a previously unvoiced character. (I personally would have been fine with this but I don't know how other players feel about that issue.) As for dead wardens, you can easily use the Orelsian Warden to replace the Hero of Fereledan. (If the hero of Fereldan is dead, the Orlesian Warden is the Warden Commander of Amaranthine after all.)
Regardless of whether or not the Warden returns, I absolutely want the loose ends tied up. Instead of putting the Warden in DA:I like they did with Hawke, they added to his story by putting him on a new quest that wasn't very well explained or fleshed out and had an indeterminate conclusion. I hated this. I want to find out what my Warden was doing to the west of the known world, how it's connected to a cure for the Blight/taint, and whether the Warden succeeded in removing his taint (tehehehehehe). I also want to know what the hell Morrigan left the Warden in the parcel at the end of Witch Hunt. (I'd imagine this is connected to the Warden's quest west in DA:I.) I don't need the Warden to reappear to find these answers -- I'd be just as happy to hear about them second-hand, but I'd be open to his reappearance. Above all though, I really want Bioware to resolve the Warden's dangling plot lines/questions from DA:I/Witch Hunt instead of making them open, unsolved questions. (Hell, a DLC to DA:4 where you play the Warden in a quest that digs into these questions -- maybe during whatever going's on in Weisshaupt -- would be terrific.)
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Post by gervaise21 on Apr 2, 2017 19:55:49 GMT
What an elf could do in uthenera was actually hinted at in Masked Empire. Felassan regrets finding the ancient elf dead since "This one could have helped". (Though I wonder exactly what help he was meaning). Then Briala says: "How?......What would they say beyond wishing us luck in the alienages?"
At this point Mihris says "You know nothing. From the Fade the ancients could see our whole world. They could see where our enemies would be, and in what number. Where the Veil was thin, they could send spirits to do their bidding and help us."
Felassan then mocks this idea, first by exaggerating what they could do. "They could kill their enemies as they slept." (Although apparently this is exactly what Dreamers could do, human and elf). "They could grant wishes to dreamers whose souls were pure." Then disparaging the idea: "Or they could lie there and do nothing except inspire overly romantic Dalish folktales." Followed by smirk of derision.
However, I think it was a case that he had originally let slip something that he regretted because Mihris was actually very close to the truth (as in fact the Dalish often are), so he had to save face by his usual put down. Since PW wrote the Masked Empire, I assume this lies behind his assertion about Solas.
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Post by thats1evildude on Apr 2, 2017 20:01:14 GMT
It should be noted that during that conversation ... ... Mihris is possessed by Imshael. It's not clear how much she says can be trusted.
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