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Post by Walter Black on Oct 2, 2017 14:40:02 GMT
Well now the tales of the horrors of this show has me curious... It has terrible voice acting, terrible animation, focuses on a privileged and annoying rich teen, and has stiff writing. I have not seen this show and have no desire to, but comments like this grind my gears . So just because someone was born into privilege (something they had no control over), they are automatically unworthy of consideration? No relating on any human level, no chance for growth and development? Also, I thought part of the point of fantasy was wish fulfillment; what, now people can't even dream of having a better life without being labeled selfish?
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Post by lucidae on Oct 2, 2017 14:58:33 GMT
It has terrible voice acting, terrible animation, focuses on a privileged and annoying rich teen, and has stiff writing. I have not seen this show and have no desire to, but comments like this grind my gears . So just because someone was born into privilege (something they had no control over), they are automatically unworthy of consideration? No relating on any human level, no chance for growth and development? Also, I thought part of the point of fantasy was wish fulfillment; what, now people can't even dream of having a better life without being labeled selfish?
My personal opinion is my opinion and you don't have to agree with it. But you shouldn't be calling me out over it in a way that drives the thread super off topic. You can PM me instead.
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 2, 2017 15:02:58 GMT
A bit disappointed with the main BBC news over here that there was a terror attack in Edmonton and yet nothing about it on the lunchtime news (not checked the news channel). Still with Las Vegas shooting and trouble in Spain I suppose it just wasn't deemed important enough.
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Post by Julilla on Oct 2, 2017 16:12:06 GMT
My condolences to anyone in Edmonton affected by this.
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Post by Hrungr on Oct 2, 2017 16:55:25 GMT
Patrick Weekes @patrickweekes Had a full week last week. Three different writers had content peer reviewed, which meant a TON of reading. Peer reviews are based on @clarionwest critique sessions. You in a room, silently listening to all your peers tell you where you messed up. It's humbling, exhausting, and frequently nerve wracking. But when you see team all working together to make something great, it's worth it. Whether you're writing alone or part of a team, find folks who challenge you, whose opinions you respect. Find folks who make you better. And when you find that group, celebrate it as the rare and wonderful thing it is. Cori Nicole @genevrael It is so great. Courtney Woods @courtneywoodsLast week was one of the best weeks of my career. So grateful for my amazing coworkers. Emily pentapod It was the Nanaimo bars that made it so, I'm sure of it 😄 [HASH]DAT (Delete the hashtag when quoting - thanks!)
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Post by thats1evildude on Oct 2, 2017 18:35:29 GMT
Before anyone asks, Nanaimo bars are a Canadian treat. They’re fucking delicious.
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Post by Hrungr on Oct 3, 2017 2:00:36 GMT
Luzarius @luzariuslive The Pearl, "this is cool!" The Blooming Rose, "this is great!" .... "Wait what, where's the brothel?! No Orlesian brothels?! nooo!" Josh @chase401 agree bring back the brothels for DA4 Mark Darrah @biomarkdarrahi.imgur.com/eXiuV2x.gif
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2017 2:13:52 GMT
Luzarius @luzariuslive The Pearl, "this is cool!" The Blooming Rose, "this is great!" .... "Wait what, where's the brothel?! No Orlesian brothels?! nooo!" Josh @chase401 agree bring back the brothels for DA4 Mark Darrah @biomarkdarrahi.imgur.com/eXiuV2x.gif I'm glad they're moving away from that. The brothels in Tevinter are full of slaves, it would be pretty skeevy to offer that option to a PC. Though I didn't care for the ones in the other games, either.
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Post by thats1evildude on Oct 3, 2017 3:11:48 GMT
Yeah, I was always in favour of ditching the brothels. I don’t necessarily object to the idea of sex work, but in the context of Thedas’ setting, I doubt many of those prostitutes were there by choice.
But if we put aside the moral issues, what were we really getting? A fade to black, followed by the PC pulling on their pants? If the experience isn’t at least somewhat titillating (no pun intended), then what’s the point?
“Then there should be sex scenes with the prostitutes!” Really? How much effort do you want the devs to invest in optional sexual encounters? Did the Internet run out of pornography when I wasn’t looking?
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Post by phoray on Oct 3, 2017 3:24:40 GMT
I am honestly disappointed that brothels will never come back says this female gamer. I hope they at least re introduce the random sexual encounters: Cammen, Ghayna, Iona, the male noble guy, Isabella in DAO, Zevran in DA2.
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Post by smilesja on Oct 3, 2017 3:26:25 GMT
I want brothels to return they were pretty fun in DA: O and DA 2.
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Post by smilesja on Oct 3, 2017 3:27:20 GMT
That being said, some person is going to see the removal of brothels as a sign of Bioware pushing a social justice agenda.
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Post by tacsear on Oct 3, 2017 3:55:00 GMT
What, no brothels?! That's it I won't even be playing the next DA game. The franchise is dead to me, goodbye everyone it has been nice meeting with you all.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Oct 3, 2017 4:03:02 GMT
What, no brothels?! That's it I won't even be playing the next DA game. The franchise is dead to me, goodbye everyone it has been nice meeting with you all. Meh ,who needs brothels when you've got a revolving door of sexing in Skyhold? Actually, that would be the funniest thing ever, if Orlais turned Skyhold into a brothel! And then Fereldan went to war with Orlais because they wanted the brothel.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 3, 2017 4:18:54 GMT
Good. Waste of resources and as mentioned above considering that the brothels would be staffed by slaves that is no longer using prostitutes but instead sex slaves.
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Post by melbella on Oct 3, 2017 4:20:25 GMT
What, no brothels?! That's it I won't even be playing the next DA game. The franchise is dead to me, goodbye everyone it has been nice meeting with you all. Meh ,who needs brothels when you've got a revolving door of sexing in Skyhold? Actually, that would be the funniest thing ever, if Orlais turned Skyhold into a brothel! And then Fereldan went to war with Orlais because they wanted the brothel.
Time to blow that pop stand. Paging Anders....
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Post by Psychedelic on Oct 3, 2017 4:21:32 GMT
The Pearl was way better than the Blooming Rose. The services they offered were... quite unique. from here
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Post by apollexander on Oct 3, 2017 6:08:18 GMT
While I don't mind whether there is a brothel, I think the point is that if they are going to build a whole city (not just separate districts) which is almost necessary in an open world game, then the city would have a brothel usually. You can't just avoid that kind of contents.
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Post by ajensis on Oct 3, 2017 8:45:01 GMT
smilesja Avatar Oct 3, 2017 5:27:20 GMT 2 smilesja said: That being said, some person is going to see the removal of brothels as a sign of Bioware pushing a social justice agenda. Simpler version: Some person is going to see ______ as a sign of Bioware pushing a social justice agenda. Best to just ignore them While I don't mind whether there is a brothel, I think the point is that if they are going to build a whole city (not just separate districts) which is almost necessary in an open world game, then the city would have a brothel usually. You can't just avoid that kind of contents. I mean, you can. There are a hundred different facilities that a city would usually have, but it doesn't mean we should be able to visit each of them. Would you mind if we couldn't visit a dye-works? That said, I'm not actually against having brothels. I don't need my character to get laid there, they just always felt like big taverns with extra flavour and I like those in-door environments, packed full with NPC's to chat with DA:I was sorely lacking in fun tavern environments.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Oct 3, 2017 10:25:02 GMT
While I don't mind whether there is a brothel, I think the point is that if they are going to build a whole city (not just separate districts) which is almost necessary in an open world game, then the city would have a brothel usually. You can't just avoid that kind of contents. This can be solved by having mentions of them in ambient dialogue, but simply not allowing the player to go there. Not having player-accessible brothels doesn't mean there are no brothels in the city, only that the player can't visit them. I wouldn't mind having a brothel environment if it were part of a quest, such as the quests in DA2. But I don't think the player has to be allowed to partake.
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Post by pinkjellybeans on Oct 3, 2017 10:51:28 GMT
Yeah, I was always in favour of ditching the brothels. I don’t necessarily object to the idea of sex work, but in the context of Thedas’ setting, I doubt many of those prostitutes were there by choice. But if we put aside the moral issues, what were we really getting? A fade to black, followed by the PC pulling on their pants? If the experience isn’t at least somewhat titillating (no pun intended), then what’s the point? “Then there should be sex scenes with the prostitutes!” Really? How much effort do you want the devs to invest in optional sexual encounters? Did the Internet run out of pornography when I wasn’t looking? For me it's not about that at all. There were brothels in TW3 but my Geralt never had sex with prostitutes. But there were sidequests that would take you to these brothels and in a game set in medieval times, it adds a bit of immersion to visit a city and see those kind of places. I want to see that just like I want to see crime and poverty, otherwise the cities will be just like the maps in DAI, sanitized and tamed because they are afraid of hurting people's feelings by showing the "bad stuff". This is exactly what I fear Bioware will do with DA4, specially if it's set in Tevinter. If they don't take a more darker approach on this game, then they never will. So yeah, I'm more concerned about what this tweet might imply for DA4 as a whole and less concerned about the fact that we might never see brothels again. It's not the first tweet I see from the developers that worries me either.
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Post by phoray on Oct 3, 2017 11:02:57 GMT
I want a chance at being a mean selfish dark character protag as much as I want to play a goody two shoes.
The removal of such an area entirely points to another game where I can only play a goody two shoes. But maybe not, I can hope. Because Prostitution is a morally grey area in our modern culture anyway so it's kinda offensive to Working Girls who actually like their job to say, "I need my evil protag to pay to bang some pixels."
In the end, I actually rarely used them except for one PT where I was RPing a specific kind of character. I would at least wamt the brothel to be a visit-able place even if we can't partake of the facilities in a personal way. That's why my initial reaction was about reintroducing casual non paid completely consensual casual sex. I dEFINITELY have used those opportunities to inject hedonism into my character that would otherwise have just been in my head.
And if I wanted everything about my character to just be in my head, I'd play Skyrim. Ew.
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Post by midnight tea on Oct 3, 2017 12:20:38 GMT
I want a chance at being a mean selfish dark character protag as much as I want to play a goody two shoes. The removal of such an area entirely points to another game where I can only play a goody two shoes. I don't see how existence or lack of brothels would affect the ability to play either a selfish dark or goody two shoes protag...
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Post by phoray on Oct 3, 2017 12:30:23 GMT
I want a chance at being a mean selfish dark character protag as much as I want to play a goody two shoes. The removal of such an area entirely points to another game where I can only play a goody two shoes. I don't see how existence or lack of brothels would affect the ability to play either a selfish dark or goody two shoes protag... Way to quote carefully. I like how my third sentence said that, yet you only quote the first two.
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Post by midnight tea on Oct 3, 2017 12:42:47 GMT
I don't see how existence or lack of brothels would affect the ability to play either a selfish dark or goody two shoes protag... Way to quote carefully. I like how my third sentence said that, yet you only quote the first two. The whole comment circled around existence or lack of brothels affecting what kind of characters we'd be able play from moral standpoint. I just addressed the crux of the matter, I'm not trying to cherrypick you. In the end I'm just confused at trying to make existence or lack of certain feature/place being so crucial to RP or character's morality, when ultimately we don't even know the shape of the game and what kind of RP opportunities we will have.
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