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Post by Nightscrawl on Dec 29, 2017 22:10:53 GMT
Why is Weeks giving this amount of info out of blue? I've got a bad feeling about this... Because he's bored? Because it's nice to answer harmless questions that he can actually answer without having to worry about spilling info about the hypothetical next game? Because he likes engaging with the fans? Any number of reasons? I don't see a cause for anxiety here...
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Post by Avejajed on Dec 29, 2017 22:25:31 GMT
There's always a reason for anxiety.
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Post by midnight tea on Dec 29, 2017 22:25:55 GMT
That's assuming those were bad intentions to begin with, if you assume that side-saddle can exist only in a culture wit starkly sexist undertones. As it has already been pointed out, it's not necessarily the case - you just need at least a chunk of the culture wanting to ride in a dress. And we already know at least one culture (Orlesian) that is shown to frequently appreciate form over function. I gotta believe Orlesian women in skirts ride in palanquins carried by city elf serfs, or horse drawn carriages for the poorer cousins. Now that's riding in form over function! It's fine that there is disagreement over any one thing (side-saddle riding, Josie being depicted as such a Disney princess, Sera hating raisins, w/e), I just wonder how many presumably good things were accidents rather than intent. Orlesians can have many extravagant ideas that don't have to go as far palanquins carried by elf serfs. I know - we've had something like this back in my horseriding club. Bit of a humorous theater on horse's back for St. Hubert's Day during which some people rode in skirts. Also - a lot of things can be wondered about, because even some intentional stuff can be read differently, but I think some folks overstate just how egalitarian Thedas as a whole is. There's a reason why Cassandra said to female Inky that she's proud that Inquisitor is a woman, and Orlesians certainly have a history of sexism, considering that women are allowed to be Chevaliers only since Aveline's death and they are still considered a rarity.
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Post by midnight tea on Dec 29, 2017 22:26:56 GMT
There's always a reason for anxiety. Internet in a nutshell
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 29, 2017 22:49:55 GMT
Why is Weeks giving this amount of info out of blue? I've got a bad feeling about this... I've got a good feeling about this. It means he's thinking about Dragon Age.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Dec 29, 2017 22:53:11 GMT
Sidesaddle doesn't makes sense for the Trespasser setting, sorry. First, it's based around antiquated ideas of women and modesty that are not present in Thedosian society; it was considered unbecoming for a women to straddle a horse. Second, it wouldn't make sense to show her in sidesaddle if she's not wearing a dress, which is also part of the function of sidesaddle: to allow women to ride horses while wearing a dress, as dictated by cultural norms. Josephine is wearing the same Inquisition formal wear as everyone else, which is also what she wore during WEWH, so unless they stuck her in one of the already present dress models, it would be silly to show her riding sidesaddle while wearing the Inquisition formal wear. I for one am thrilled they didn't go with that for Josephine. Now, that's not to say that sidesaddle isn't a thing in Thedas at all, but as women are equal to men, I don't imagine that they will be forced to wear dresses all the time. I imagine that even Celene has some fancy riding pants to wear if she chooses. I'll also point out that you need a special saddle to ride that way, but it isn't likely they would have shown Josephine dismounting, or even standing beside her horse, so I guess that wouldn't be an issue with creating a new saddle model. I swear, it's like the devs continually forget that Thedas is a much more egalitarian society than the real world (in some ways, not all), or they forget it when it suits their purpose. having Josie ride side saddle wouldn't be a commentary on egalitarianism in Thedas. She could just like riding like that. It's cute, elegant, mentally associated with royalty and princesses, and Josie is a Disney princess.
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Post by SwobyJ on Dec 30, 2017 1:55:30 GMT
I think the Inquisition would have been more appropriate with blue (or its spectrum) uniform with red secondary/alternate and green options. A light blue 'feeling' (I mean, its even based in SKYhold) is what I got from the organization anyway, and red seemed more reserved to aspects of the enemy factions (through Tevinter, red lyrium), so the red uniforms were off-putting. (Green was both for the more useful - through the Mark - and dangerous - through the rifts - aspects of the story.) From The Art of Dragon Age: Inquisition: "The colors of the Inquisition are charcoal gray and crimson, evoking the Inquisition's ties to the Seekers, in black, and the templars, in red." While they had this concept in mind, it seems like when it came time to doing the art assets for various levels of the Inquisition, they looked around at all of the Chantry folks and thought that it was just too much red and gray, which is why we we get the orange and green forces uniforms. After all, the Inquisition is supposed to be a separate organization, not another military arm of the Chantry. But the difference there has always bothered me, which is why I made a mod for the forces uniforms. As I say on the mod: "After playing through the prologue of the game with the mod enabled I’ve come to the determination that the reason the devs made this decision was to distinguish the Inquisition NPCs from those of the Chantry. All of the Chantry NPCs around Haven are wearing similar colors, so it ends up looking like we’re one big, happy family, and since much is made of the Chantry’s ire over the Inquisition’s founding at the beginning of the game, that is certainly not the case." I'm even aware of the quote, however I just think artistically that something blue works best with the setup (of course incorporating colors of red, grey, green for various reasons, but always more secondary). I think it distinguishes THIS Inquisition, just as the N7 logo, especially scratched as it becomes, distinguishes Shepard from other Alliance or even other N7.
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Post by Hrungr on Dec 30, 2017 2:43:21 GMT
Krista D. Ball @kristadb1Tegan really has turned into an asshole. Blah blah blah centuries ago, Orlais and the Grey Wardens hurt our feelings blah blah blah NO ONE CARES STFU YOU'D ALL BE DEAD IF NOT FOR ME pbs.twimg.com/media/DSPpr5qUQAAAdoz.jpg Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesOh man, at least the Celene/Gaspard bug got fixed. Krista D. Ball @kristadb1haha! I remember that one my first playthru (I played as soon as the DLC dropped). I was *really* confused & thought I'd loaded the wrong playthru! Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesYyyyyyeah, that was purely on me. The Celene/Gaspard logic was really complex, and I used what I THOUGHT was the right state check, but NOPE. (A point in favor of having slightly better documentation or organization for complex logic, too, I suppose. But mostly My Bad.) [HASH]DAT
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Post by midnight tea on Dec 30, 2017 2:45:29 GMT
Gosh Hrungr - a lot to post here, from what I've seen. Good luck
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Post by Hrungr on Dec 30, 2017 2:47:32 GMT
Krista D. Ball @kristadb1Ok so seriously: I *still* get excited and my heart pumps a little faster when I see the mirrors because of this trailer: Patrick Weekes @patrickweekes“Could one thing in the FUCKING world just stay fixed?!” remains a line I am both impressed with all the Inquisitors for NAILING and surprised all the big bosses let me put in there. Krista D. Ball @kristadb1At that point, I think the player REALLY needed to have that option. That "FUCK YOU ALL" option to just yell at everyone. And then what a great opportunity for the voice actors to finally just swear & let it rip. Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesI believe @karinweekes referred to that option as the Inquisitor’s “Clark Griswold freaks out after getting non-bonus in Christmas Vacation” scene. [HASH]DAT
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Post by Hrungr on Dec 30, 2017 2:49:46 GMT
Gosh Hrungr - a lot to post here, from what I've seen. Good luck I just came up for air after playing Skyrim all afternoon... then looked at my timeline. Brace yourselves people, this may take a while...
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Post by Hrungr on Dec 30, 2017 2:52:28 GMT
Krista D. Ball @kristadb1Sidenote: I *love* these in the DLC because so many people were still having on and off problems with dialogue. & the banter is so fabulous that I'm glad this was added to ensure no one missed it. pbs.twimg.com/media/DSPuWZCUIAAuXwX.jpg Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesWe all wanted banter, but nobody could agree on how to make it fire and not get in the way of stuff. This was our compromise. I’m glad it worked for folks! [HASH]DAT
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 30, 2017 2:55:33 GMT
Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesI believe @karinweekes referred to that option as the Inquisitor’s “Clark Griswold freaks out after getting non-bonus in Christmas Vacation” scene. I lol'd.
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Post by Hrungr on Dec 30, 2017 2:57:18 GMT
Krista D. Ball @kristadb1WE'RE NOT IN KANSAS ANYMORE pbs.twimg.com/media/DSPt7cbUQAAcEtI.jpg Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesAlso, dunno if you’ve ever gone into crossroads as an elf, but elves actually see the crossroads differently. The awesome VFX guys got us a cool effect to show it. Krista D. Ball @kristadb1I haven't played as an elf yet (tho I will be eventually!). I did see a video of it and that was seriously cool. Patrick Weekes @patrickweekes(They did it in DAI, too, but nobody called attention to it there.) enansaal @robyn_makinI, IN FACT, DID NOT NOTICE THIS Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesYou can see it if you’re an elf. And if you bring Sera the first time, she notices it and then Freaks the Fuck Out when she realizes nobody else does. enansaal @robyn_makinSo I noticed the differences in the crossroads during Trespasser (colour for elves and grey scale for the others) but I didn’t notice the fade differences because it’s all green, floaty and foggy for everyone. What’s the differences for elves? Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesAh, not the Fade, but when Morrigan shows you the crossroads in DAI. It’s short. [HASH]DAT
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Post by Hrungr on Dec 30, 2017 2:59:36 GMT
Krista D. Ball @kristadb1I truly do love Bull and Dorian. Don't @ me because I don't care if you disagree. pbs.twimg.com/media/DSPunNNUEAAHZfc.jpgAlso, I truly appreciate the full effort of @realfpjr & Dorian's voice actor (sorry, I forget his name ATM). They brought the words to life with their chuckles and sighs and how they could make you *hear* their eye rolls and grins. Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesWe were so lucky to have a great cast. You could throw them tongue twisters, angst, or broad comedy, and they would all run with it magnificently. [HASH]DAT
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Post by Hrungr on Dec 30, 2017 3:01:45 GMT
Krista D. Ball @kristadb13 years out and this is still simply gorgeous. pbs.twimg.com/media/DSPwzPiUQAAAmzT.jpg Patrick Weekes @patrickweekes“This is the work of a mage.” That line was less silly back when those scorch marks were smaller and not, you know, the result of a giant wave of fire. Krista D. Ball @kristadb1It's almost comforting that it *is* the work of a mage. Consider the entire place is scorched and the qunari are frozen, you hope it is a mage and not a freaking god. Though... *cough* Patrick Weekes @patrickweekes“Yes, the scorchmarks. Also, unless Qunari are prone to spontaneous petrification, that might be a clue.” [HASH]DAT
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Post by Hrungr on Dec 30, 2017 3:03:43 GMT
Krista D. Ball @kristadb1This one here, she's shaking her hand! She's not said anything about it yet, but it's bothering her. pbs.twimg.com/media/DSPy4e3V4AA1KcY.jpg Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesI BELIEVE that was also @eplerjc — he really wanted the animation and body language to tell a continuing story here. [HASH]DAT
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Post by Hrungr on Dec 30, 2017 3:06:31 GMT
Krista D. Ball @kristadb1 This is kinda like the Act I finish. "Report back to Lily."
SO MY THOUGHTS SO FAR
Patrick Weekes @patrickweekes The goal of this from a story standpoint was that by the end of this one, you’d have “Evanuris == Elf Mages, Fen’Harel == Robin Hood” comfortably in mind.
Krista D. Ball @kristadb1 I thoroughly enjoyed the Robin Hood myth, but I also admit I found myself doubting it was all true. Like it was a Fen-Harel fanboi club doing this.
Patrick Weekes @patrickweekes I think that he himself confirms this as being a very rose-tinted view of him.
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Post by Hrungr on Dec 30, 2017 3:14:55 GMT
Krista D. Ball @kristadb1Dating advice from Bull is always...unique. pbs.twimg.com/media/DSQE7EHVoAAHBDI.jpgPatrick Weekes @patrickweekesYessssssss, Bull is HELPING! (Seriously, I loved Bull as Dad With Heart in Right Place for Krem, and @realfpjr and @jhaletweets just NAILED the banter.) Krista D. Ball @kristadb1How on earth did this gang save the world? pbs.twimg.com/media/DSQEpP1UIAApsK0.jpgPatrick Weekes @patrickweekesNO REGRETS [HASH]DAT
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Krista D. Ball @kristadb1HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH pbs.twimg.com/media/DSQGSR8UQAACa6m.jpg Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesI feel personally called out by @davidgaider here. David Gaider @davidgaiderI just tried to imagine what the most annoying part of dating you would be, and that... was on my list. Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesI’m sure this is a very short list, because I’m fucking adorable. This is why Germans don’t date Irish. You can’t handle our HEAT. [HASH]DAT
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Post by Hrungr on Dec 30, 2017 3:21:04 GMT
Krista D. Ball @kristadb1 Ok heading back in! Taking Dorian, Bull, and Sera this time!
Patrick Weekes @patrickweekes Team YOLO!
Krista D. Ball @kristadb1 I have been fighting for the last 5 minutes on fucking CASUAL. Either I'm out of practice or worst team ever.
Patrick Weekes @patrickweekes Welllllllllll I mean... their BANTER is really good. I didn’t say anything about survivability.
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Krista D. Ball @kristadb1I absolutely have never served Fenny the Dog. pbs.twimg.com/media/DSQMS_GUQAA-3jg.jpg Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesAh yes, stage two of the information trickle: heyyyyy here’s why they’re here and kinda what they think, also hey Saarebas are bad. [HASH]DAT
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Post by Hrungr on Dec 30, 2017 3:28:20 GMT
Krista D. Ball @kristadb1 WOOT End of Act 2.
So far, the Inquisitor's hand has acted up a bit, but she's blowing it off. She's also about to start a 3 way war...
Patrick Weekes @patrickweekes So the other fun thing in those after-mission talks: casually and naturally letting players know that the Inquisition is hiding this.
Krista D. Ball @kristadb1 The Inquisition has become a lot of what people were afraid of. It keeps secrets.
Patrick Weekes @patrickweekes We needed folks to see that from other people’s viewpoints, the Inquisition WAS dangerous — powerful, secretive, unaccountable. But doing that with some random info you weren’t part of would’ve been cheap.
So we had to get the Inquisition to do something wrong (hide the Qunari stuff) without making it obvious enough that the player would expect a choice there.
Wooo sneaky manipulative shenanigans!
Krista D. Ball @kristadb1 I'm really happy with how the story of the Inquisition unfolds. It was needed. It also needs to change rolls a bit.
Patrick Weekes @patrickweekes Somewhere in the “Avengers” area — good when faced with an obvious threat requiring immediate unhindered action, shouldn’t be allowed to remain lest every problem start to look like a nail.
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Post by Hrungr on Dec 30, 2017 3:29:44 GMT
Senior Mod Commander @daconfessionsAmazingly cute Krem confession posted today. I even added a chef hat to him 👍😀 pbs.twimg.com/media/DSQTwriUQAAou_P.jpg Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesI AM SO PROUD. [HASH]DAT
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Post by melbella on Dec 30, 2017 3:33:04 GMT
"The Inquisition is hiding things" thing was completely fabricated and forced. If players had the choice to keep things hidden or tell what was going on would have been way less frustrating. As it is, we only get the option at the end, right before heading to Vir Dirthara, when it doesn't even matter anymore.
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