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Post by blighted on Dec 30, 2017 6:42:11 GMT
Wow. That was a glorious Dragon Age thread to close out the year with. Kudos to Krista & Patrick (and everyone else who chimed in!)!
*obligatory Cailan gif*
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 30, 2017 8:10:01 GMT
Great, now all my hatred towards the Trespasser DLC is back in my memory again. Seriously, one of the worst DLCs they ever made.
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Post by Avejajed on Dec 30, 2017 8:42:13 GMT
Great, now all my hatred towards the Trespasser DLC is back in my memory again. Seriously, one of the worst DLCs they ever made. I don't think we played the same thing.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Dec 30, 2017 9:57:15 GMT
Great, now all my hatred towards the Trespasser DLC is back in my memory again. Seriously, one of the worst DLCs they ever made. I don't think we played the same thing. Having just reached the final section of Trespasser myself this evening, I'm in agreement. It's awesome.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Dec 30, 2017 14:26:36 GMT
Krista D. Ball @kristadb1HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH pbs.twimg.com/media/DSQGSR8UQAACa6m.jpg Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesI feel personally called out by @davidgaider here. David Gaider @davidgaiderI just tried to imagine what the most annoying part of dating you would be, and that... was on my list. Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesI’m sure this is a very short list, because I’m fucking adorable. This is why Germans don’t date Irish. You can’t handle our HEAT. German/Irish is one of the most common ethnic mixes here in the US but 'k. Lol Loving the tweets, hrungr. Truly you are a gift.
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Post by lilyenachaos on Dec 30, 2017 15:13:23 GMT
Those tweets were a ton of fun to read. I loved Trespasser, but hate playing it because it's the END.
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Post by Hrungr on Dec 30, 2017 18:49:21 GMT
Great, now all my hatred towards the Trespasser DLC is back in my memory again. Seriously, one of the worst DLCs they ever made. I don't think we played the same thing. While I have a couple of minor issues with Trespasser... (WHY CAN'T I BUILD THE EMPIRE I ALWAYS WANTED! )... it's still, on the whole, my favorite DA DLC.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Dec 30, 2017 18:52:25 GMT
Krista D. Ball @kristadb1WE'RE NOT IN KANSAS ANYMORE pbs.twimg.com/media/DSPt7cbUQAAcEtI.jpg Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesAlso, dunno if you’ve ever gone into crossroads as an elf, but elves actually see the crossroads differently. The awesome VFX guys got us a cool effect to show it. Krista D. Ball @kristadb1I haven't played as an elf yet (tho I will be eventually!). I did see a video of it and that was seriously cool. Patrick Weekes @patrickweekes(They did it in DAI, too, but nobody called attention to it there.) enansaal @robyn_makinI, IN FACT, DID NOT NOTICE THIS Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesYou can see it if you’re an elf. And if you bring Sera the first time, she notices it and then Freaks the Fuck Out when she realizes nobody else does. enansaal @robyn_makinSo I noticed the differences in the crossroads during Trespasser (colour for elves and grey scale for the others) but I didn’t notice the fade differences because it’s all green, floaty and foggy for everyone. What’s the differences for elves? Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesAh, not the Fade, but when Morrigan shows you the crossroads in DAI. It’s short. I guess half a loaf is better than none at all. I had just come off of reading the Masked Empire and had expected a whole lot more from non-elf types in the Crossroads, as depicted in the book.
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Post by Hrungr on Dec 30, 2017 18:55:59 GMT
Missed a couple from last night...Krista D. Ball @kristadb1in the span of just a few minutes, her hand acts up again. It's getting worse, and the music is playing, and you're like, ok, I'm gonna die in this game. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeekes. pbs.twimg.com/media/DSRCZyfVwAAQZcf.jpg Mary Kirby @biomarykirbyI just thought you could use some helpful reminders of your impending doom. Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesPlayer May Not Be Aware of Inquisitor’s Mortality, Suggest Reminder Here Mary Kirby @biomarykirbyDo they know everything is bad? Maybe I should add more screaming. [HASH]DAT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 18:57:04 GMT
Krista D. Ball @kristadb1HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH pbs.twimg.com/media/DSQGSR8UQAACa6m.jpg Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesI feel personally called out by @davidgaider here. David Gaider @davidgaiderI just tried to imagine what the most annoying part of dating you would be, and that... was on my list. Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesI’m sure this is a very short list, because I’m fucking adorable. This is why Germans don’t date Irish. You can’t handle our HEAT. German/Irish is one of the most common ethnic mixes here in the US but 'k. Lol Loving the tweets, hrungr. Truly you are a gift. I know right. Like tell that to my great-grandma and great-grandpa. Awesome that Weekes and Co, did commentary on his friend's livetweet of Trespasser. I played through it again recently and all the feels were still there.
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Post by melbella on Dec 30, 2017 18:58:30 GMT
The females did the screaming in agony quite well. My male inquisitor sounded constipated.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Dec 30, 2017 19:04:53 GMT
Well, that was sort of the point. We can't control everything - and the control over Inquisition starts to slip away from our grasp, hence stuff like infiltration. Perhaps they could have gotten it across better without making me feel like shit about my ineffectual Inquisitor. This is symptomatic of Bioware's larger blind spot. They don't seem to get how attached players are to their character concept of the PC. I'm not saying a personal character concept is a bad thing, far from it -- it's supposed to be a roleplaying game, after all. But pretty consistently, Bioware seems to have their own character concept of the PC and that's what they write to -- despite doing their level best to water down and genericize the problem into non-existence. Consequently, your roleplaying goes out the window.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Dec 30, 2017 19:06:39 GMT
As someone who doesn't do twittery stuff, should I know who Krista Ball is?
I think she's just someone playing Trespasser for the first time and twittering all about it. Some people like attention.
Well, PW is following her, so she can't be a complete nobody. Maybe she's a writer he admires or knows, so he's enjoying seeing what she thinks about the game he worked on?
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Post by melbella on Dec 30, 2017 19:12:52 GMT
I think she's just someone playing Trespasser for the first time and twittering all about it. Some people like attention.
Well, PW is following her, so she can't be a complete nobody. Maybe she's a writer he admires or knows, so he's enjoying seeing what she thinks about the game he worked on? Well, she's still a nobody to me. At first I read her name as Kristen Bell though.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Dec 30, 2017 19:16:17 GMT
Krista D. Ball @kristadb1AND THEN THE SCENE THAT BROKE SO MANY PLAYERS INCLUDING @mostlybree Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesThis whole scene almost didn’t happen. Brad Paras, an amazing level designer, went with me through permutations of Loyal Bull/Betraying Bull-In Party/Not In Party to make it all happen. Bree (&🐕) @mostlybreeGo Brad, you destroyed my life but it was SKILLFULLY DONE. I did wonder what happened if you hadn't happened to bring him with you so I checked out YouTube and then also the romance option omg Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesPeople were like, so should he just be a normal bruiser enemy, and I said, no, give him all his abilities, I want them to feel BAD about this. Krista D. Ball @kristadb1The angry male inquisitor! Lying, manipulative bastard. And then his voice cracks and I just die. Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesDid you hear the bit where the romancing Inquisitor says, “Katoh” to themselves after? That one was harsh. Krista D. Ball @kristadb1Oh god, yes. 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesThat one, and Solas digging the knife in during one of his investigates if Bull turned on you. Among the meaner lines I’ve shipped. ( @pancheers KILLS Sarcastic Solas lines. Just drives them home hard.) Hrungr @hrungryIt was certainly a gut-punch when I first ran into the betrayal scene. But the *real* regret was crafting such high-end gear for him, and making him a sword & board TANK t'boot. (It was like trying whittle down your favorite tree with a spoon...) HA HAHAH HAHHAHHHAHAA! So that's why the traitor Iron Bull was such a pushover on Nightmare! When I don't run a character in my regular party, I strip them of gear for use by the companion I do have in the party of the same class. I can't be assed to make a complete set of gear for everyone, particularly since I go for high tier, high grade material builds which take forever to farm (thank god for the PC mods that sell high grade materials, but only used them on my very last run). I also don't spend XP points on their builds. Had enough for his loyalty mission and to sacrifice the Chargers, but probably didn't spend any more after that point. Moral of the story: laziness is the best way to counter a PW trap!
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Dec 30, 2017 19:26:30 GMT
Hope my comments here and his response helped soothe any fears. Well, I wasn't extra worried about it in the first place -- but from an objective viewpoint, PW neither confirmed nor denied anything in his reply. And some might read "a hard year (2017)" as confirmation of something to worry about. Course, that really isn't new and is consistent with what he tweeted prior to his hiatus from Twitter. It's either mostly about Laidlaw leaving (and whatever was behind that that we don't know about but PW does), or it's Laidlaw leaving and something else, unrelated to Laidlaw leaving, that we don't know about.
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Post by Fredward on Dec 30, 2017 19:33:01 GMT
It could also be 2017 just being a shit year in general, politics wise and the deep fuckery the Me Too movement unearthed.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Dec 30, 2017 19:34:54 GMT
It could also be 2017 just being a shit year in general, politics wise and the deep fuckery the Me Too movement unearthed. (facepalm) Of course. I'm so numb to it at this point that it's not even top of mind anymore. The New Normal, YAY!
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Post by melbella on Dec 30, 2017 19:36:38 GMT
It could also be 2017 just being a shit year in general, politics wise and the deep fuckery the Me Too movement unearthed. That was my first thought too, but then I thought maybe it was just my own biases showing.
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Post by Hrungr on Dec 30, 2017 19:38:26 GMT
I think she's just someone playing Trespasser for the first time and twittering all about it. Some people like attention.
Well, PW is following her, so she can't be a complete nobody. Maybe she's a writer he admires or knows, so he's enjoying seeing what she thinks about the game he worked on? Krista mentioned at some point that they know one another personally...
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Post by Hrungr on Dec 30, 2017 19:43:44 GMT
Krista D. Ball @kristadb1The angry male inquisitor! Lying, manipulative bastard. And then his voice cracks and I just die. Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesDid you hear the bit where the romancing Inquisitor says, “Katoh” to themselves after? That one was harsh. Krista D. Ball @kristadb1Oh god, yes. 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesThat one, and Solas digging the knife in during one of his investigates if Bull turned on you. Among the meaner lines I’ve shipped. ( @pancheers KILLS Sarcastic Solas lines. Just drives them home hard.) Hrungr @hrungryIt was certainly a gut-punch when I first ran into the betrayal scene. But the *real* regret was crafting such high-end gear for him, and making him a sword & board TANK t'boot. (It was like trying whittle down your favorite tree with a spoon...) HA HAHAH HAHHAHHHAHAA! So that's why the traitor Iron Bull was such a pushover on Nightmare! When I don't run a character in my regular party, I strip them of gear for use by the companion I do have in the party of the same class. I can't be assed to make a complete set of gear for everyone, particularly since I go for high tier, high grade material builds which take forever to farm (thank god for the PC mods that sell high grade materials, but only used them on my very last run). I also don't spend XP points on their builds. Had enough for his loyalty mission and to sacrifice the Chargers, but probably didn't spend any more after that point. Moral of the story: laziness is the best way to counter a PW trap! Damn my min-max mindset!
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Post by midnight tea on Dec 30, 2017 19:43:52 GMT
Hope my comments here and his response helped soothe any fears. Well, I wasn't extra worried about it in the first place -- but from an objective viewpoint, PW neither confirmed nor denied anything in his reply. And some might read "a hard year (2017)" as confirmation of something to worry about. Course, that really isn't new and is consistent with what he tweeted prior to his hiatus from Twitter. It's either mostly about Laidlaw leaving (and whatever was behind that that we don't know about but PW does), or it's Laidlaw leaving and something else, unrelated to Laidlaw leaving, that we don't know about. He's been pretty open about being frustrated with current state of the world right before and after he disappeared for a little after Laidlaw's departure. Once he got back from his hiatus, his first tweets were about how, and I quote: "I can’t cure cancer, stop hurricanes, or fix politics... but as a novelist or part of a game team, I can make someone laugh for a night."
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Post by Fredward on Dec 30, 2017 19:45:50 GMT
Well I mean my first interpretation of that tweet was "Well, you didn't explicitly say everything wasn't shit with DA4 so everything must be awful and also on fire" but I'm trying to be more optimistic. Wrt this game anyway, life in general is totally deserving of oodles of pessimism atm. Also everybody was so happy and uplifted I didn't want to be a Debbie Downer.
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Post by Gilli on Dec 30, 2017 19:51:52 GMT
HA HAHAH HAHHAHHHAHAA! So that's why the traitor Iron Bull was such a pushover on Nightmare! When I don't run a character in my regular party, I strip them of gear for use by the companion I do have in the party of the same class. I can't be assed to make a complete set of gear for everyone, particularly since I go for high tier, high grade material builds which take forever to farm (thank god for the PC mods that sell high grade materials, but only used them on my very last run). I also don't spend XP points on their builds. Had enough for his loyalty mission and to sacrifice the Chargers, but probably didn't spend any more after that point. Moral of the story: laziness is the best way to counter a PW trap! Damn my min-max mindset! I was just thinking, while I'd never sacrifice the Chargers, If I did, I wouldn't really have to worry about the fight against Bull. Why? 3 Elves and 1 Qunari vs 1 Dragon Who was the one who kept dying so often I stopped bothering with resurecting him?
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Dec 30, 2017 19:52:12 GMT
Krista D. Ball @kristadb1Confession: I liked this better than Mass Effect Citadel. Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesI forgot how much of a pain it was to get the red text. We knew we would get raked over the coals if people didn’t know THIS WAS THE END. Krista D. Ball @kristadb1Oh I agree. You needed that red text. And probably arrows, flashing lights, and a spotlight, then 2 different double checks...and still someone would have complained! Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesI think we ended up having to do it with HTML tags, of all things. LOOK SERIOUSLY YOU ARE LOCKED INTO THIS SHIT AND THEN IT IS OVER 5EVER, NO MORE HINTERLANDS FOR YOU
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