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Post by Hrungr on Jan 1, 2018 17:54:28 GMT
Okay, this was too funny not to post... Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesYou only made one fucking mistake, 2017. You left me alive.
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Post by thats1evildude on Jan 1, 2018 18:01:18 GMT
Seriously. I can count on like, one hand, the amount of games that let me play as a woman, much less a customizable one. The whole fucking industry is basically made for straight men. Hundreds upon hundreds of games where you play as a man while the women in the game (not playable, of course) scamper around in ridiculous bikini armor. I don’t think you play enough games, Avejajed. While it’s true there are an abundance of male leads of video games, there is also a lot of games where you can play a female character. Even just going off the top of my head, I would need to take off my shoes if I counted them all.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Jan 1, 2018 18:07:35 GMT
Okay, this was too funny not to post... Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesYou only made one fucking mistake, 2017. You left me alive. Now if that isn't a reflection of how grimdark 2017 was, I don't know what is.
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Post by MarilynRobert on Jan 1, 2018 18:47:46 GMT
get a bonus mini-mance with Scout HardingI hope that was intentional, but even if it wasn't, I giggled hysterically. The thought of Papa Charlie "giggling" is funny.
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Post by Avejajed on Jan 1, 2018 19:07:13 GMT
I will never be able to find it within myself to feel sorry for straight, white men and how they feel slighted.
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Post by Gilli on Jan 1, 2018 19:28:55 GMT
Seriously. I can count on like, one hand, the amount of games that let me play as a woman, much less a customizable one. The whole fucking industry is basically made for straight men. Hundreds upon hundreds of games where you play as a man while the women in the game (not playable, of course) scamper around in ridiculous bikini armor. I don’t think you play enough games, Avejajed. While it’s true there are an abundance of male leads of video games, there is also a lot of games where you can play a female character. Even just going off the top of my head, I would need to take off my shoes if I counted them all. I agree. And most of them wear more than "just" a bikini. Off the top of my head: Games with female Protagonists:
Samus Aran (Metroid series) Lara Croft (Tomb Raider) Aloy (Horizon: Zero Dawn) Bayonetta (Bayonetta 1 and 2) Yuna + Rikku and Paine (Final Fantasy X-2) <-- this is/was actually my fav game before I played DAI, got over 500 hours playtime on my PS2 Lightning (Final Fantasy XIII, FFXIII-2, Lightning Returns - FFXIII) Princess Peach (Super Princess Peach) Bibi Blocksberg (Bibi Blocksberg games series) <-- she's a witch from a german cartoon/audio series, which is aimed at young girls
Games where you can choose if you want to play a boy, or a girl:
Pokémon series since Pokémon Crystal Star Ocean Second Story and it's remake Star Ocean Second Evolution let you either play as Claude C. Kenny, or Rena Lanford Persona 3 Portable has a non-canonical female protagonist you can play as I could probably find more, but that was really just what popped into my head right now. Aside from Bayonetta, who wears her hair as clothes, and Samus Aran, when she's out of her suit, no one wears bikini-like armor. in the suit and out of the suit
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Post by thats1evildude on Jan 1, 2018 19:33:55 GMT
I will never be able to find it within myself to feel sorry for straight, white men and how they feel slighted. I notice you said “white” but black men also play DA and I have seen one or two who groused that the Josie romance was a little tame.
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Post by tacsear on Jan 1, 2018 19:41:42 GMT
Seriously. I can count on like, one hand, the amount of games that let me play as a woman, much less a customizable one. The whole fucking industry is basically made for straight men. Hundreds upon hundreds of games where you play as a man while the women in the game (not playable, of course) scamper around in ridiculous bikini armor. And men are going to bitch and moan about not having equal romances in the ONE game I've got that doesn't pander to horny assholes in mom's basement. Ugh. Dishonored 2 Horizon Zero Dawn Hellblade Senua's Sacrifice Nier Automata Mirror's Edge Tomb Raider Fallout Elder Scrolls Assassin's Creed Syndicate Final Fantasy 13 Life Is Strange Saints Row Borderlands Infamous: First Light Beyond Two Souls There you go. 3 hands on the top of my head
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Post by Avejajed on Jan 1, 2018 19:49:01 GMT
I will never be able to find it within myself to feel sorry for straight, white men and how they feel slighted. I notice you said “white” but black men also play DA and I have seen one or two who groused that the Josie romance was a little tame. Remind me how many romancable black options, male, or female, there is? Oh wait. None. The point is that white straight men will always have more options when it comes to video games that literally every other kind of person. I don't get why those people would have the audacity to complain when they have so many more options and opportunities to begin with!
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jan 1, 2018 20:13:37 GMT
I notice you said “white” but black men also play DA and I have seen one or two who groused that the Josie romance was a little tame. Remind me how many romancable black options, male, or female, there is? Oh wait. None. The point is that white straight men will always have more options when it comes to video games that literally every other kind of person. I don't get why those people would have the audacity to complain when they have so many more options and opportunities to begin with! It's not rocket science, people of any melanin strain want to like what they buy. If you buy something and don't like it, you complain. Nobody who buys something really cares if someone else who didn't buy that thing for them doesn't sympathize with them or not.
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Post by midnight tea on Jan 1, 2018 21:11:02 GMT
Remind me how many romancable black options, male, or female, there is? Oh wait. None. The point is that white straight men will always have more options when it comes to video games that literally every other kind of person. I don't get why those people would have the audacity to complain when they have so many more options and opportunities to begin with! It's not rocket science, people of any melanin strain want to like what they buy. If you buy something and don't like it, you complain. Nobody who buys something really cares if someone else who didn't buy that thing for them doesn't sympathize with them or not. I think the history of entertainment industry alone shows that it's not that simple. Ask yourself how many people would like things people like now 30 or 60 years ago? Then there remains a question of why they didn't like it. And what changed their mind? Why may things unacceptable before are acceptable now and not a thing to complain at anymore, for the most part? Why were, say, interracial or gay couples on screen were such a point of contention and source of complains a few decades ago, and they aren't as much now?
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jan 1, 2018 21:16:47 GMT
It's not rocket science, people of any melanin strain want to like what they buy. If you buy something and don't like it, you complain. Nobody who buys something really cares if someone else who didn't buy that thing for them doesn't sympathize with them or not. I think the history of entertainment industry alone shows that it's not that simple. Ask yourself how many people would like things people like now 30 or 60 years ago? Then there remains a question of why they didn't like it. And what changed their mind? Why may things unacceptable before are acceptable now and not a thing to complain at anymore, for the most part? Why were, say, interracial or gay couples on screen were such a point of contention and source of complains a few decades ago, and they aren't as much now? I'm speaking of "the audacity to complain". If you buy something, you feel entitled (rightly) to evaluate it. It doesn't matter how much melanin is in your skin when it comes to this universal truth.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Jan 1, 2018 22:25:18 GMT
Remind me how many romancable black options, male, or female, there is? Oh wait. None. Isabela.
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Post by Avejajed on Jan 1, 2018 22:43:56 GMT
Remind me how many romancable black options, male, or female, there is? Oh wait. None. Isabela. You can't romance Isabella in Inquisition.
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Post by thats1evildude on Jan 1, 2018 22:45:22 GMT
You can't romance Isabella in Inquisition. But if Isabela counts as black, shouldn’t Josephine?
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Post by Avejajed on Jan 1, 2018 22:46:41 GMT
You can't romance Isabella in Inquisition. But if Isabela counts as black, shouldn’t Josephine? I don't personally count Isabella or Josephine as black, but I can see why some would.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Jan 1, 2018 23:02:59 GMT
But if Isabela counts as black, shouldn’t Josephine? I don't personally count Isabella or Josephine as black, but I can see why some would. No. Rivain is stated in the lore to have black people. Isabela has been confirmed to be black by the devs. Isabela, Vivienne, and Duncan (as of WOT2) have Rivaini origins. Antiva is Italian or Spanish*, or if you want to be more broad, Mediterranean. If you consider the location of Rivain vs Antiva on the map, you can see that the difference is similar to that of the Iberian peninsula (Rivain) and North Africa (Antiva), only with the two reversed, since we're in the southern hemisphere. In this case, the Antivans are on the main continent, and the Rivainis are more north and on their peninsula. But that entire region, including Eastern Tevinter, is full of darker peoples. * They're not consistent with the accents here...
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Post by Hrungr on Jan 1, 2018 23:20:02 GMT
Mark Darrah Retweeted Mehrian Hawke @mehrianhawkeStill relatable every bloody year though! @biomarkdarrah @patrickweekes @biomarykirby @mike_Laidlaw pbs.twimg.com/media/DSezPR8WkAATzLq.jpg[HASH]DAT
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Post by Hrungr on Jan 1, 2018 23:28:55 GMT
- It's that time of year again... Game Informer @gameinformerWe've ranked the top 100 RPGs of all time. Did your favorite make the cut? bit.ly/2CTGnS9 #1. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim #2. Final Fantasy VI #3. Chrono Trigger #4. Mass Effect 2 #5. The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt #26. Dragon Age: Origins #45. Mass Effect 3 #57. Dragon Age: Inquisition #65. Mass Effect [HASH]DAT
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jan 2, 2018 0:08:13 GMT
- It's that time of year again... Game Informer @gameinformerWe've ranked the top 100 RPGs of all time. Did your favorite make the cut? bit.ly/2CTGnS9 #1. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim #2. Final Fantasy VI #3. Chrono Trigger #4. Mass Effect 2 #5. The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt #26. Dragon Age: Origins #45. Mass Effect 3 #57. Dragon Age: Inquisition #65. Mass Effect
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Post by Kabraxal on Jan 2, 2018 0:48:55 GMT
- It's that time of year again... Game Informer @gameinformerWe've ranked the top 100 RPGs of all time. Did your favorite make the cut? bit.ly/2CTGnS9 #1. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim #2. Final Fantasy VI #3. Chrono Trigger #4. Mass Effect 2 #5. The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt #26. Dragon Age: Origins #45. Mass Effect 3 #57. Dragon Age: Inquisition #65. Mass Effect Wow... no TW3 or FFVI as top spot? That is a win in itself. Don’t agree with the low rankings on DA at all though. They are the top 2 games all time.
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Post by thats1evildude on Jan 2, 2018 0:52:29 GMT
Seriously. I can count on like, one hand, the amount of games that let me play as a woman, much less a customizable one. The whole fucking industry is basically made for straight men. Hundreds upon hundreds of games where you play as a man while the women in the game (not playable, of course) scamper around in ridiculous bikini armor. And men are going to bitch and moan about not having equal romances in the ONE game I've got that doesn't pander to horny assholes in mom's basement. Ugh. Dishonored 2 Horizon Zero Dawn Hellblade Senua's Sacrifice Nier Automata Mirror's Edge Tomb Raider Fallout Elder Scrolls Assassin's Creed Syndicate Final Fantasy 13 Life Is Strange Saints Row Borderlands Infamous: First Light Beyond Two Souls There you go. 3 hands on the top of my head American McGee's Alice and Alice: Madness Returns Sunset Overdrive Child of Light Fable 2 and 3 Pillars of Eternity 1 and 2 Divinity: Original Sin 1 and 2 World of Warcraft League of Legends Overwatch Most fighting games, really Resident Evil The aforementioned Bayonetta and Metroid Portal 1 & 2 Uncharted: Lost Legacy
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Post by Avejajed on Jan 2, 2018 1:00:20 GMT
Nobody's asking you to apologize for it. All people want is for it to be acknowledged. You are privileged. Especially in the gaming world. And nobody asking you to give that up or apologize for it. But I'm not going to feel sorry for some guy mad he got two less romances in a video game than women and I don't think Bioware is either. Bioware is going to push to be more diverse, not less.
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Post by midnight tea on Jan 2, 2018 1:02:50 GMT
Nobody's asking you to apologize for it. All people want is for it to be acknowledged. You are privileged. Especially in the gaming world. And nobody asking you to give that up or apologize for it. But I'm not going to feel sorry for some guy mad he got two less romances in a video game than women and I don't think Bioware is either. Bioware is going to push to be more diverse, not less. Honestly? I have to laugh at the irony. There are less female romances because there are less female followers... conversely, that means more female companions as a remedy! How much do you want to bet that some people will complain at that?
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