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Post by Avejajed on Jan 2, 2018 1:08:49 GMT
Nobody's asking you to apologize for it. All people want is for it to be acknowledged. You are privileged. Especially in the gaming world. And nobody asking you to give that up or apologize for it. But I'm not going to feel sorry for some guy mad he got two less romances in a video game than women and I don't think Bioware is either. Bioware is going to push to be more diverse, not less. Honestly? I have to laugh at the irony. There are less female romances because there are less female followers... conversely, that means more female companions as a remedy! How much do you want to bet that some people will complain at that? People complain about everything. I'm content with what we have, but I do feel sorry for even less underrepresented groups who have even less romance options. I mean, I'm pretty grateful to have nuanced romances at all and it's not all Witcher sex all over the place. In any case I don't hate men and I'm not an extremist. I'm married to a man and raising two boys myself. But I hope that I can teach them that although they are privileged, that they can use that to fight for those who are not. Anyway, I'm done with this conversation now as it's gone way off topic. And I was wrong about Isabella. I didn't know that the devs had officially made her a POC, but if you say they have then I was wrong. I hope we get some DA4 news soon.
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Post by githcheater on Jan 2, 2018 1:38:51 GMT
But if Isabela counts as black, shouldn’t Josephine? I don't personally count Isabella or Josephine as black, but I can see why some would. No. Rivain is stated in the lore to have black people. Isabela has been confirmed to be black by the devs. Isabela, Vivienne, and Duncan (as of WOT2) have Rivaini origins. Antiva is Italian or Spanish*, or if you want to be more broad, Mediterranean. If you consider the location of Rivain vs Antiva on the map, you can see that the difference is similar to that of the Iberian peninsula (Rivain) and North Africa (Antiva), only with the two reversed, since we're in the southern hemisphere. In this case, the Antivans are on the main continent, and the Rivainis are more north and on their peninsula. But that entire region, including Eastern Tevinter, is full of darker peoples. * They're not consistent with the accents here... "Brick House" Isabela was a fun romance in DA2. It is a pity that "Brick House" Vivienne was not romanceable in DAI. For DAI, I believe that Dorian, Cullen, ride the Iron Bull and Solas were much more palatable romance options than Cassandra, Josephine, or Sara. However, I believe that DA2 and DAO had better female companion romance options (Isabella, Morrigan & Lelianna), compared to male companion romance options (Alistar).
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Post by Hrungr on Jan 2, 2018 3:46:07 GMT
Josiah Renaudin @josiahrenaudinThe next @the1099podcast mailbag show is with former Dragon Age creative director @mike_Laidlaw! Questions about AAA game dev, creating open worlds, BioWare, Dragon Age, or anything else? Tweet me or email josiahrenaudin@gmail. We record at the end of the week! pbs.twimg.com/media/DSftivZUMAApfwH.jpg[HASH]DAT
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jan 2, 2018 3:46:36 GMT
Nobody's asking you to apologize for it. All people want is for it to be acknowledged. You are privileged. Especially in the gaming world. And nobody asking you to give that up or apologize for it. But I'm not going to feel sorry for some guy mad he got two less romances in a video game than women and I don't think Bioware is either. Bioware is going to push to be more diverse, not less. Privileged in the gaming world? No, not really. All that happened in the past is that companies responded to the demographic that bought their games. That's just market forces, not privilege. As their market expands they'll cater to a wider consumer base.
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Post by Hrungr on Jan 2, 2018 3:52:37 GMT
Josiah Renaudin @josiahrenaudinThe next @the1099podcast mailbag show is with former Dragon Age creative director @mike_Laidlaw! Questions about AAA game dev, creating open worlds, BioWare, Dragon Age, or anything else? Tweet me or email josiahrenaudin@gmail. We record at the end of the week! Mark Darrah @biomarkdarrah3 questions for Mike:: 1. Who do you think you are? 2. What gives you the right? 3. Where do you get off? [hash]DAT
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jan 2, 2018 3:55:27 GMT
Josiah Renaudin @josiahrenaudinThe next @the1099podcast mailbag show is with former Dragon Age creative director @mike_Laidlaw! Questions about AAA game dev, creating open worlds, BioWare, Dragon Age, or anything else? Tweet me or email josiahrenaudin@gmail. We record at the end of the week! Mark Darrah @biomarkdarrah3 questions for Mike:: 1. Who do you think you are? 2. What gives you the right? 3. Where do you get off? MY first question would be... how airtight is that NDA you signed when you left Bioware?...
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Post by wickedcool on Jan 2, 2018 14:45:56 GMT
My question is why hasn’t there been a new king or queen of rpgs. Years later and skyrim still rules next gen consoles.
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Post by lolomlas on Jan 2, 2018 16:13:12 GMT
My question is why hasn’t there been a new king or queen of rpgs. Years later and skyrim still rules next gen consoles. Because Skyrim is the cockroach of video gaming, it's unkillable.
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Post by thats1evildude on Jan 2, 2018 17:30:21 GMT
If you want to feel better about Skyrim topping the charts, remember that Bethesda can’t be bothered to fix its bugs on re-releases.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jan 2, 2018 17:48:20 GMT
Eh, I like Skyrim but it's not the king on my list. Though it is fun to mod.
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Post by Bondari the Reloader on Jan 2, 2018 18:01:35 GMT
- It's that time of year again... Game Informer @gameinformerWe've ranked the top 100 RPGs of all time. Did your favorite make the cut? bit.ly/2CTGnS9 #1. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim #2. Final Fantasy VI #3. Chrono Trigger #4. Mass Effect 2 #5. The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt #26. Dragon Age: Origins #45. Mass Effect 3 #57. Dragon Age: Inquisition #65. Mass Effect #7. Knights of the Old Republic #9. Baldur's Gate II #40. Neverwinter Nights #62. Baldur's Gate Got to give the old Bioware games some love, too! The fact that BGII continues to rank as one of the top ten all time even after so many newer, flashier games have come and gone gives me great joy. If nothing else, it reinforces the idea that party-based RPGs are still tons of fun to play (so please make more, game devs! especially ones with isometric/top-down view options!)
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Post by Fredward on Jan 2, 2018 18:22:16 GMT
Skyrim is pretty great when you've modded it so much you basically can't see the original product underneath. Also, someone more up to date with general video game news does Skyrim actually remain so popular or goes Bethesda just keep plugging it? I suppose there would have to be some demand or they wouldn't be plugging it but yeah. If it still is substantially popular I wonder what the big developers make of a single player, silent protag game still having such legs?
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Post by alanc9 on Jan 2, 2018 18:27:59 GMT
I never saw the point in throwing dozens of hours into finding mods just to make a game tolerable. Wouldn't I be better off using those hours playing a game I already like?
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Post by Hrungr on Jan 2, 2018 18:38:07 GMT
Skyrim is pretty great when you've modded it so much you basically can't see the original product underneath. Also, someone more up to date with general video game news does Skyrim actually remain so popular or goes Bethesda just keep plugging it? I suppose there would have to be some demand or they wouldn't be plugging it but yeah. If it still is substantially popular I wonder what the big developers make of a single player, silent protag game still having such legs? Skyrim remains popular, but I think a large part of that is due to the modding community. Mainstream gaming sites continue to feature articles about Skyrim mods, month after month, year after year, so people are continually reminded that it's out there and still relevant... It never leaves the public consciousness. Then of course you have Bethesda bumping it up with new releases every now and then, and it's essentially an evergreen game for them. GTA V is another example of this.
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Post by midnight tea on Jan 2, 2018 19:04:18 GMT
I never saw the point in throwing dozens of hours into finding mods just to make a game tolerable. Wouldn't I be better off using those hours playing a game I already like? I realize that it may not be like this for everyone, but after enough hours spent playing, even a game I already really, really like just feels a bit stale. This is why I like modding. It keeps things fresh and different.
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Post by wickedcool on Jan 2, 2018 19:39:02 GMT
I’m just waiting for anyone t make a great action rpg. Honestly I kicked the skyrim habit. Now it’s just dai but there’s been nothing for a long time
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jan 2, 2018 20:07:18 GMT
I never saw the point in throwing dozens of hours into finding mods just to make a game tolerable. Wouldn't I be better off using those hours playing a game I already like? Different strokes for different folks. It's a kind of tinkering that is popular with a lot of people, including me. That said, I only get out Skyrim to tinker with like maybe once a year.
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Post by Fredward on Jan 2, 2018 20:11:04 GMT
I much prefer the modding tools approach to longevity than the MP one so all power to them. Though it does kind of lead to the question of what EA has against modding. I've heard someone saying they don't want people tampering with Frostbite but why? I've also heard it's too expensive which certainly seems more reasonable but if it can keep your game fresh for years wouldn't it pay for itself? Especially if you wanna follow Bethesda's model and monetize mods. Hmm... official modding tools for DA. The possibilities.
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Post by rras1994 on Jan 2, 2018 20:19:29 GMT
I much prefer the modding tools approach to longevity than the MP one so all power to them. Though it does kind of lead to the question of what EA has against modding. I've heard someone saying they don't want people tampering with Frostbite but why? I've also heard it's too expensive which certainly seems more reasonable but if it can keep your game fresh for years wouldn't it pay for itself? Especially if you wanna follow Bethesda's model and monetize mods. Hmm... official modding tools for DA. The possibilities. There's also licensing issues, a lot of dev development is actually down using software made by other companies which EA would just license for developers - it causes problems when making modding tools. Edit: I knew i'd seen an Ask a Dev post that went into this. Here you go: link
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Post by Hrungr on Jan 2, 2018 20:27:23 GMT
I much prefer the modding tools approach to longevity than the MP one so all power to them. Though it does kind of lead to the question of what EA has against modding. I've heard someone saying they don't want people tampering with Frostbite but why? I've also heard it's too expensive which certainly seems more reasonable but if it can keep your game fresh for years wouldn't it pay for itself? Especially if you wanna follow Bethesda's model and monetize mods. Hmm... official modding tools for DA. The possibilities. I also think a part of the problem is that Frostbite isn't an all-in-one solution to create their games. They don't own all the tools/plug-ins/extensions/etc. they use, and it'd be prohibitively expensive to license them for widespread use. And then they'd have to provide some sort of documentation, token support, and so on... Edit: 'd!
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Post by Fredward on Jan 2, 2018 20:32:02 GMT
I never saw the point in throwing dozens of hours into finding mods just to make a game tolerable. Wouldn't I be better off using those hours playing a game I already like? It's a question of enjoyment ceilings. Like say we take DA2 and Skyrim, unmodded I'd prefer DA2, it's ceiling is just higher than base Skyrim. But Skyrim has hundreds of thousands of mods, you can raise that ceiling as high as you want, redecorate it once you're tired of the old look, get a disco ball, add a skylight, get a hologram ceiling, have it ask you riddles, steal the Hagia Sophia's dome, sell the ceiling and move to Bahrain etc. The ceiling becomes a suggestion, not a hard stop. And yeah there's something about meticulously picking the mods you want and getting them to work nice with each other and the end product is a specific interpretation or version of the game that's muuuch more in line with how you prefer to play and interact with it than the one with the hard ceiling that's at least as fun as reading a Wiki (which is very fun).
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Post by midnight tea on Jan 2, 2018 20:39:46 GMT
I much prefer the modding tools approach to longevity than the MP one so all power to them. Though it does kind of lead to the question of what EA has against modding. I've heard someone saying they don't want people tampering with Frostbite but why? I've also heard it's too expensive which certainly seems more reasonable but if it can keep your game fresh for years wouldn't it pay for itself? Especially if you wanna follow Bethesda's model and monetize mods. Hmm... official modding tools for DA. The possibilities. I'm not a gamedev, but I think it stems from the fact that building a 'moddable' engine is in itself complicated and expensive, aside form all the licensing issues. The Creation Engine (based on Gamebryo) worked well enough for Skyrim, but has already shown significant limitations in Fallout 4. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if TESVI took its time not just because of other IP's, but 'cause they're focused on creating new engine for it.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Jan 2, 2018 20:46:41 GMT
Skyrim is pretty great when you've modded it so much you basically can't see the original product underneath. Also, someone more up to date with general video game news does Skyrim actually remain so popular or goes Bethesda just keep plugging it? I suppose there would have to be some demand or they wouldn't be plugging it but yeah. If it still is substantially popular I wonder what the big developers make of a single player, silent protag game still having such legs? Skyrim remains popular, but I think a large part of that is due to the modding community. Mainstream gaming sites continue to feature articles about Skyrim mods, month after month, year after year, so people are continually reminded that it's out there and still relevant... It never leaves the public consciousness. Then of course you have Bethesda bumping it up with new releases every now and then, and it's essentially an evergreen game for them. GTA V is another example of this. People usually quote Skyrim active user stats and purchase stats on Steam as evidence for its popularity. While that only covers PC users, the active users stat has remained pretty steady for years, instead of show by the sharp decline for other games. The recent updates — including the VR version — provide kickers that keep the numbers relatively high for the age of the game.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Jan 2, 2018 20:54:56 GMT
I much prefer the modding tools approach to longevity than the MP one so all power to them. Though it does kind of lead to the question of what EA has against modding. I've heard someone saying they don't want people tampering with Frostbite but why? I've also heard it's too expensive which certainly seems more reasonable but if it can keep your game fresh for years wouldn't it pay for itself? Especially if you wanna follow Bethesda's model and monetize mods. Hmm... official modding tools for DA. The possibilities. I'm not a gamedev, but I think it stems from the fact that building a 'moddable' engine is in itself complicated and expensive, aside form all the licensing issues. The Creation Engine (based on Gamebryo) worked well enough for Skyrim, but has already shown significant limitations in Fallout 4. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if TESVI took its time not just because of other IP's, but 'cause they're focused on creating new engine for it. I don’t think that’s the whole story. After all, the dev team and QA teams have to have tools for developing the game in the first place. So it can’t be purely a complexity or cost issue. I think it has more to do with control. If the dev is okay with letting modders have the same level of access as level designers on the dev team, they just release the tools and off we go. Since that almost never happens, it means devs don’t want to give up that much control over the game. It could be because of third party license restrictions, or it could be that they don’t want some jagoff to steal their ip and post a reskinned ripoff on steam or alibaba.
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Post by river82 on Jan 2, 2018 21:02:05 GMT
Skyrim remains popular, but I think a large part of that is due to the modding community. Mainstream gaming sites continue to feature articles about Skyrim mods, month after month, year after year, so people are continually reminded that it's out there and still relevant... It never leaves the public consciousness. Then of course you have Bethesda bumping it up with new releases every now and then, and it's essentially an evergreen game for them. GTA V is another example of this. Skyrim's essentially a "do whatever you want" game, and as such there's not really any limit to content especially when you factor in the modding community. You can load the game, search for more books, look over your house shut the game down and do the same tomorrow instead of having to follow a set storyline or list of objectives. It is not-objective based gameplay, you can load the game and do whatever you want. The Sims is similar. Zelda might have overtaken Skyrim if it wasn't console exclusive to Nintendo and featured a strong modding community endorsed by the developers.
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