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Post by ellawyn on Jan 26, 2018 2:20:18 GMT
2020 is honestly way too optimistic. Sounds like 2021 more like. Sorry guys (Long-suffering sigh.) I expect an announcement of a 2020 release. But probably a delay to 2021. That is the best scenario I can see, and even that might be generous. No way we're getting 2019 now, and even an early 2020 release is probably out of the question.
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Post by SwobyJ on Jan 26, 2018 2:22:13 GMT
I've changed my prediction from a 2019 release (til 2020 expansions), to 2020 release (til 2021-2022 updates/expansions). And Mass Effect to only happen in whatever we call 'next gen', but either the first or second major Bioware release for then (early to mid 2020s). Thanks Jason. You're more optimistic than me. Christ, I remember when Inquisition first came out, and someone told me "Well, there's usually only three years between games, so you should get your resolution by 2017 or so," and I thought that was an unbearably long time to wait. What youthful naivete. What beautiful halcyon days. I have my optimistic predictions and my pessimistic ones. For pessimism, I just have Anthem failing and in 2019 Bioware shutting doors (or rather, layoffs and shuffling of developers who stay), with goodbye Dragon Age and Mass Effect - except maybe in bastardized forms. I prefer my optimism.
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Post by SwobyJ on Jan 26, 2018 2:24:02 GMT
With the loss of BW Montreal, I've been wondering if BW can realistically juggle 3 major franchises (+ Star Wars) anymore. I have a feeling something has to give... They are looking for a 'live service executive producer for Anthem' in Austin. I think Anthem will be taken care of by Austin soon after its release, and then Mark Darrah can fully work on DA. And I wonder what Mac Walters is doing right now. Speaking of my optimism - this is what I'm going with. Edmonton fully focusing on Dragon Age to release 2019-2020 (hey I know 2021 is a thing but I'm not holding for that yet), but Anthem 'live service' moved to Austin, perhaps with major content still done by Edmonton. And sorry to SWTOR.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Jan 26, 2018 3:05:25 GMT
I think my last prediction was late 2020, but I hadn't accounted for how "live services" might add some additional development milestones (among other things), so yeah, 2021 seems more likely to me now. Might be early 2021, though.
I'm okay with waiting if it results in a high quality story and experience.
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Post by melbella on Jan 26, 2018 3:12:39 GMT
Uugggghhh..... On the other hand, if it takes too long, maybe I'll be retired by then and can play as much as I want whenever I want.
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Post by Hrungr on Jan 26, 2018 4:32:43 GMT
Patrick Weekes @patrickweekes “In retrospect, that tweet where I replied to @biomarkdarrah confirming work on the Dragon Age franchise would have been a great time to plug my books. But nah, She-Ra fanfic it is.”
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Post by LordGunSmith90 on Jan 26, 2018 4:40:49 GMT
So we will not be getting DA4 until 2021? That's a really long wait for a game that ended in a a cliff hanger.
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Post by Fredward on Jan 26, 2018 4:43:32 GMT
But I'll be old by 2021.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jan 26, 2018 5:06:19 GMT
But I'll be old by 2021. I'll be either 42 or 43 (depending on how early in the year it is)
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Post by Avejajed on Jan 26, 2018 5:20:04 GMT
If it comes out in 2021 I will be shocked, because that's a long time between games. I'll go for 2020 now even though that makes me depressed. That'll mean two of my kids who were not even born yet (or even conceived) when Inquisition came out will be nearly in Kindergarten! I'll be pushing 40! Ugh.
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Post by Iakus on Jan 26, 2018 5:22:42 GMT
If it comes out in 2021 I will be shocked, because that's a long time between games. I'll go for 2020 now even though that makes me depressed. That'll mean two of my kids who were not even born yet (or even conceived) when Inquisition came out will be nearly in Kindergarten! I'll be pushing 40! Ugh. I think we'll be lucky if we get an official announcement by 2020 AS for pushing forty...hush you whippersnapper!
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Post by wickedcool on Jan 26, 2018 14:32:24 GMT
Timeline April 2016 we got the famous pic of tower/took/wolf-have to assume that f that was made public that a rough draft of a plot line/game elements was approved by ea. Da4 unofficially/officially confirmed by Alexis Kennedy on 3/22/2017 -do we know if Alexis is done with that and has moved on?
Do we think based on travel that we are well past writing/what the engine can do and on to set piece ideas for artwork?
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Jan 26, 2018 14:38:36 GMT
Timeline April 2016 we got the famous pic of tower/took/wolf-have to assume that f that was made public that a rough draft of a plot line/game elements was approved by ea. Da4 unofficially/officially confirmed by Alexis Kennedy on 3/22/2017 -do we know if Alexis is done with that and has moved on? Do we think based on travel that we are well past writing/what the engine can do and on to set piece ideas for artwork? Alexis Kennedy finished his contract for BioWare a while ago, yes. He's been focusing on Cultist Simulator for months. Mark Darrah's travel to Spain was for Anthem. Casey Hudson @caseydhudson
Great set of @anthemgame meetings in Barcelona. Very fortunate to have the big brain of @biomarkdarrah on the project. Mark Darrah@biomarkdarrah
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Post by Addictress on Jan 26, 2018 14:41:43 GMT
Vague stuff about BOoOoOooth?
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Jan 26, 2018 14:44:06 GMT
Vague stuff about BOoOoOooth? Yeah, now the BSN CSI will have to figure out which game he's referring to in his cryptic tweets.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jan 26, 2018 15:14:34 GMT
Vague stuff about BOoOoOooth? Yeah, now the BSN CSI will have to figure out which game he's referring to in his cryptic tweets. And more soon gifs and memes😉
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Post by Hrungr on Jan 26, 2018 15:24:25 GMT
Timeline April 2016 we got the famous pic of tower/took/wolf-have to assume that f that was made public that a rough draft of a plot line/game elements was approved by ea. Da4 unofficially/officially confirmed by Alexis Kennedy on 3/22/2017 -do we know if Alexis is done with that and has moved on? Yeah, Alexis just had a 6 mo. contract with BW, and has since moved on to his Indie project (Cultist Simulator).
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Post by cloud9 on Jan 26, 2018 15:53:27 GMT
BioWare I only got one thing to say to you:
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Post by Hrungr on Jan 26, 2018 22:06:50 GMT
Cori Nicole @genevrael that thing where you discover a 'functionality' (it's not a bug it's a feature) in the toolset you did not fully understand and now you have to redo your whole day's work #gamedev
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Jan 26, 2018 22:09:41 GMT
I thought this Ask a Game Dev blog post might be a good read for those of us who are concerned about the next Dragon Age game. A fan asked: "Dragon Age is my favorite IP ever. I'm reading the news that the new DA project was "rebooted" to "implement more live elements". I'm also reading several people saying that DA4 might not happen if Anthem doesn't do well. Is that a fair assessment, and in your professional opinion does "live elements" most likely mean it won't be single-player?" The game dev's response is pretty thorough and knowledgeable, as usual. [HASH]DAT
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Jan 26, 2018 22:56:27 GMT
I thought this Ask a Game Dev blog post might be a good read for those of us who are concerned about the next Dragon Age game. A fan asked: "Dragon Age is my favorite IP ever. I'm reading the news that the new DA project was "rebooted" to "implement more live elements". I'm also reading several people saying that DA4 might not happen if Anthem doesn't do well. Is that a fair assessment, and in your professional opinion does "live elements" most likely mean it won't be single-player?" The game dev's response is pretty thorough and knowledgeable, as usual. Definitely a good and reassuring read. And while I think their description of EA’s ultimate goal, flog an old game for as long as possible instead of making new games, is accurate, it will ultimately fail. The blockbuster success of FIFA and Overwatch is skewing the curve. Just because Doctor Who enhanced watcher engagement for decades, doesn’t mean every series will. It’s not the series-ness that matters. Sometimes we just want a good standalone movie.
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Post by midnight tea on Jan 26, 2018 23:33:19 GMT
I thought this Ask a Game Dev blog post might be a good read for those of us who are concerned about the next Dragon Age game. A fan asked: "Dragon Age is my favorite IP ever. I'm reading the news that the new DA project was "rebooted" to "implement more live elements". I'm also reading several people saying that DA4 might not happen if Anthem doesn't do well. Is that a fair assessment, and in your professional opinion does "live elements" most likely mean it won't be single-player?" The game dev's response is pretty thorough and knowledgeable, as usual. Definitely a good and reassuring read. And while I think their description of EA’s ultimate goal, flog an old game for as long as possible instead of making new games, is accurate, it will ultimately fail. The blockbuster success of FIFA and Overwatch is skewing the curve. Just because Doctor Who enhanced watcher engagement for decades, doesn’t mean every series will. It’s not the series-ness that matters. Sometimes we just want a good standalone movie. Well yeah - but we're already talking about a series on which people will be spending hundreds of hours on, that has been designed for 'series-ness' and/or replayability from the start.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Jan 27, 2018 1:11:25 GMT
Definitely a good and reassuring read. And while I think their description of EA’s ultimate goal, flog an old game for as long as possible instead of making new games, is accurate, it will ultimately fail. The blockbuster success of FIFA and Overwatch is skewing the curve. Just because Doctor Who enhanced watcher engagement for decades, doesn’t mean every series will. It’s not the series-ness that matters. Sometimes we just want a good standalone movie. Well yeah - but we're already talking about a series on which people will be spending hundreds of hours on, that has been designed for 'series-ness' and/or replayability from the start. Well, to stretch my analogy even further, I’d argue that DA to date has been more like three successive mini-series, rather than one long series. If DA4 goes 7 years before it progresses the meta/main story with DA5, EA is betting you will be okay with that, as long as you get a few additional hours of side-story content 2 or 3 times a year. Presumably for a price. Even if it’s 10 times a year and for free, you’d be okay with that? Obviously everything I said is a wild ass guess, but not an uneducated one. I picked 7 years because that’s how old Skyrim is — we’re basically seeing the future thanks to Bethesda, only replace mods with EA live content. COD also tried an evergreen model, and guess what? Core fans eventually got bored. You can only get so far with new maps and new skins.
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Post by melbella on Jan 27, 2018 2:23:00 GMT
Definitely a good and reassuring read. And while I think their description of EA’s ultimate goal, flog an old game for as long as possible instead of making new games, is accurate, it will ultimately fail. The blockbuster success of FIFA and Overwatch is skewing the curve. Just because Doctor Who enhanced watcher engagement for decades, doesn’t mean every series will. It’s not the series-ness that matters. Sometimes we just want a good standalone movie. Well yeah - but we're already talking about a series on which people will be spending hundreds of hours on, that has been designed for 'series-ness' and/or replayability from the start.
If they are already doing it/have been doing it, then wtf is a "reboot" even necessary? Reboot generally means: something has changed. If it isn't the "live" or "continuous" element, what is it?
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