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Post by Hrungr on Jan 28, 2018 22:41:52 GMT
Aren't they also supposed to be working on some new space game or something??? A while back Bethesda said they wanted to create 2 new "Skyrim sized" games before getting back to Elder Scrolls. One of them is that space game "Starfield". Not sure if we know what the 2nd one is yet. But they also said that the next ES is going to be an ambitious project. Apparently the technology isn't there yet (at the time of the interview anyway) for what they want do with it.
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Post by melbella on Jan 28, 2018 22:48:46 GMT
Well, they do like first person so maybe they are waiting for some new breakthrough in VR?
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Post by Hrungr on Jan 28, 2018 22:58:26 GMT
Well, they do like first person so maybe they are waiting for some new breakthrough in VR? Haven't heard any hints yet whether it's hardware or software tech... But a new ES would certainly drive the sales of any hardware.
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Post by thats1evildude on Jan 28, 2018 23:06:14 GMT
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Jan 29, 2018 0:45:51 GMT
I just feel like they actually have no excuse for the dealy on DA4 other than "we were working on other games that we thought would make more money." And that just kinda ticks me off. I get what you are saying, but perhaps it's just a matter of perspective. "We are working on the cash cow game that will fund passion projects like DA4, which we'd otherwise have to cancel." My understanding from a conversation with a BioWare dev is that DAI was their biggest grossing game ever. This EA report to its investors is old now (from 2015) but supports the idea that Dragon Age is actually a cash cow in its own right, not just a passion project.
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Post by phoray on Jan 29, 2018 1:44:27 GMT
I get what you are saying, but perhaps it's just a matter of perspective. "We are working on the cash cow game that will fund passion projects like DA4, which we'd otherwise have to cancel." My understanding from a conversation with a BioWare dev is that DAI was their biggest grossing game ever. This EA report to its investors is old now (from 2015) but supports the idea that Dragon Age is actually a cash cow in its own right, not just a passion project. But they want to make even more money than that is what I'm guessing. They also want it to be a steady stream thereafter. So DAI level of success with a constant 5% stream of profit thereafter?
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Post by Fredward on Jan 29, 2018 5:36:41 GMT
I've heard rumors that one of the big games Bethesda is working on a ASoIaF game which would be quite the coup, if it's true.
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Post by lilyenachaos on Jan 29, 2018 6:16:02 GMT
I've heard rumors that one of the big games Bethesda is working on a ASoIaF game which would be quite the coup, if it's true. A what game? :dumb: I think I need that explained, lol.
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Post by Fredward on Jan 29, 2018 6:24:30 GMT
I've heard rumors that one of the big games Bethesda is working on a ASoIaF game which would be quite the coup, if it's true. A what game? I think I need that explained, lol. Game of Thrones. ASoIaF is the barely-less-effort-to-type version of A Song of Ice and Fire.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jan 29, 2018 6:51:29 GMT
I've heard rumors that one of the big games Bethesda is working on a ASoIaF game which would be quite the coup, if it's true. I've also heard that from a couple of places on YouTube (for whatever that might be worth). But yes, if true, would be a very big deal. The last couple of entries into Westeros gaming were apparently fairly uninspired.
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Post by Hrungr on Jan 29, 2018 6:56:13 GMT
I've heard rumors that one of the big games Bethesda is working on a ASoIaF game which would be quite the coup, if it's true. Which would be strange considering they had already turned down an opportunity to make a GoT game, and decided to make Skyrim instead. And considering what a massive success it was (+ being an IP they own & have full control over), why bother with the hassle (and cost) of dealing with a licensed property?
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Post by Hrungr on Jan 29, 2018 7:02:51 GMT
John Epler @eplerjcTravelling for work and I remain very disappointed that Dark Souls is not yet out for the Switch. Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesFly safe, dude. - I just noticed that John is now the Narrative Presentation Lead on Anthem as well as DA. I'm starting wonder who's left working on DA?
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Post by Julale on Jan 29, 2018 9:21:00 GMT
That’s new to me too. He must’ve changed it recently.... This makes me sad because obviously there’s just a small team working on DA4 right now 😭😭
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Post by Heimdall on Jan 29, 2018 9:30:35 GMT
John Epler @eplerjcTravelling for work and I remain very disappointed that Dark Souls is not yet out for the Switch. Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesFly safe, dude. - I just noticed that John is now the Narrative Presentation Lead on Anthem as well as DA. I'm starting wonder who's left working on DA? I guess they really want to have all hands on deck for Anthem. on the other hand, knowing that there’s a lot of narrative presentation work to be done on Anthem does make me feel better about it.
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Post by vertigomez on Jan 29, 2018 11:15:36 GMT
That’s new to me too. He must’ve changed it recently.... This makes me sad because obviously there’s just a small team working in DA4 right now 😭😭
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Jan 29, 2018 12:45:10 GMT
I've heard rumors that one of the big games Bethesda is working on a ASoIaF game which would be quite the coup, if it's true. I've also heard that from a couple of places on YouTube (for whatever that might be worth). But yes, if true, would be a very big deal. The last couple of entries into Westeros gaming were apparently fairly uninspired. I felt Telltale’s story was pretty good, honestly. :shrug: A TES style game in Westeros doesn’t reallly appeal to me. Not unless Bethesda really does get better at quest writing. The real appeal of Westeros isn’t the geography, it’s the intrigue.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2018 16:23:06 GMT
I get what you are saying, but perhaps it's just a matter of perspective. "We are working on the cash cow game that will fund passion projects like DA4, which we'd otherwise have to cancel." My understanding from a conversation with a BioWare dev is that DAI was their biggest grossing game ever. This EA report to its investors is old now (from 2015) but supports the idea that Dragon Age is actually a cash cow in its own right, not just a passion project. This makes me so happy! Thanks for sharing it...aaand then I read JEpler is on Anthem too. *sigh*
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Post by lilyenachaos on Jan 29, 2018 16:55:09 GMT
A what game? I think I need that explained, lol. Game of Thrones. ASoIaF is the barely-less-effort-to-type version of A Song of Ice and Fire. I see! Thank you for clarifying. I have absolutely no interest in GoT but I know it's very popular. Give me a sequel to Skyrim, please.
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Post by midnight tea on Jan 29, 2018 17:07:46 GMT
John Epler @eplerjcTravelling for work and I remain very disappointed that Dark Souls is not yet out for the Switch. Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesFly safe, dude. - I just noticed that John is now the Narrative Presentation Lead on Anthem as well as DA. I'm starting wonder who's left working on DA? I guess they really want to have all hands on deck for Anthem. on the other hand, knowing that there’s a lot of narrative presentation work to be done on Anthem does make me feel better about it. True - though we don't know extent or proportion of work they're doing on each franchise.
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Post by Heimdall on Jan 29, 2018 17:56:07 GMT
I guess they really want to have all hands on deck for Anthem. on the other hand, knowing that there’s a lot of narrative presentation work to be done on Anthem does make me feel better about it. True - though we don't know extent or proportion of work they're doing on each franchise. Also true. Still, they didn’t have Drew Karpyshyn lead a seven person writing team just to write a paper thin plot and some lore entries, I would think. I’m optimistic.
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Post by SwobyJ on Jan 29, 2018 17:57:08 GMT
John Epler @eplerjcTravelling for work and I remain very disappointed that Dark Souls is not yet out for the Switch. Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesFly safe, dude. - I just noticed that John is now the Narrative Presentation Lead on Anthem as well as DA. I'm starting wonder who's left working on DA? I guess they really want to have all hands on deck for Anthem. on the other hand, knowing that there’s a lot of narrative presentation work to be done on Anthem does make me feel better about it. It would be fantastic if they are pushing things partially due to narrative and even roleplaying rework so as to not seem too Destiny/etc... (along with fair...er monetization)
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Post by Reznore on Jan 29, 2018 18:14:16 GMT
True - though we don't know extent or proportion of work they're doing on each franchise. They are probably on full production for Anthem and still pre-prod for DA4. It doesn't mean DA4 is just words on papers and pictures/storyboards right now. They might have some combat/mechanics prototype, some art assets being build, a couple of barebones zones to test some things a bit. But I imagine they are still far away from having a very crappy first version of the game, with boxes saying combat there or dialogue ...and if that's the case, don't expect DA4 before 2020.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jan 29, 2018 18:40:49 GMT
I've also heard that from a couple of places on YouTube (for whatever that might be worth). But yes, if true, would be a very big deal. The last couple of entries into Westeros gaming were apparently fairly uninspired. I felt Telltale’s story was pretty good, honestly. :shrug: A TES style game in Westeros doesn’t reallly appeal to me. Not unless Bethesda really does get better at quest writing. The real appeal of Westeros isn’t the geography, it’s the intrigue. Oh, I don't disagree. I haven't played the Telltale game, or the RPG or the RTS. Just haven't heard of any of them setting the world on fire. Regardless, unless Hrungr was wrong above, it looks like it might just be a rumour.
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Jan 29, 2018 19:41:40 GMT
Something to keep in mind about DA4 is that they're not switching engines, and already have a lot of assets made for DAI that could be used in DA4. Trees, plants, rock textures, ground vegetation textures, sculptures, building elements, wild animals, generic demons, etc. already exist and don't need to be made completely from scratch again. That might save a little time. They will still have to make entirely new levels and, if the game takes place in Tevinter, more Tevinter-specific assets, but still - it may not be as huge a project as DAI was.
Anthem is a brand new IP so of course they need a big team to develop all those brand-new assets for it.
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Post by Mresa on Jan 29, 2018 19:50:57 GMT
Something to keep in mind about DA4 is that they're not switching engines, and already have a lot of assets made for DAI that could be used in DA4. Trees, plants, rock textures, ground vegetation textures, sculptures, building elements, wild animals, generic demons, etc. already exist and don't need to be made completely from scratch again. That might save a little time. They will still have to make entirely new levels and, if the game takes place in Tevinter, more Tevinter-specific assets, but still - it may not be as huge a project as DAI was. Anthem is a brand new IP so of course they need a big team to develop all those brand-new assets for it. Yeah they got plenty of assets ready to be used. Now there's also no old console gen tech holding them back so they can really go further with all the new areas. So that might be one reason the game has been in works longer, they could make it at least twice the size of Inquisition, bigger even.
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