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Post by arvaarad on Feb 12, 2018 0:59:16 GMT
Reading articles like this makes me wonder if things are just as bad for employees in other creative production industries. I'm thinking of things like movie/TV production, where people work on specific projects instead of standard hours, jobs that seem creative and fun, jobs that people feel grateful/lucky to be a part of. I know the potential for burnout is there, as well (as it is in any job, really), but maybe there are some lessons that could be learned from other industries with similar work patterns. I have friends who work in film/tv and for some, 12 hour days is the norm. I’m immediately suspicious of jobs that get referred to as a “dream jobs”. People are willing to endure so much shit when they think they’ve found The One, whether that’s a person or a job, because that’s what they’re supposed to do. The love of The One is supposed to overcome all those pesky minor obstacles like work/life balance or extreme stress or harrassment, because giving up means never finding True Fulfilment or some codswallop like that. And most of the people competing for that spot are thinking similar things, so the supply of labor is completely out of proportion with the working conditions.
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Post by Awkward Octopus on Feb 12, 2018 4:29:26 GMT
It's not just games.
In my experience, a lot of the areas where art and technology overlap suffers from crunch, lack of unions, and the whole "if you want this dream job, suck it up about the hours" attitude. Animation, Previs, VFX, Stop-Motion, etc. It is definitely as pervasive in film/tv as it is in games, especially as film and tv rely more and more on these skills, and the local studios (in the US) struggle to compete with ones overseas that get subsidies from their governments and can therefore charge less, so the local ones have to rely on crunch and unpaid overtime.
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Post by arvaarad on Feb 12, 2018 5:02:46 GMT
It's not just games. In my experience, a lot of the areas where art and technology overlap suffers from crunch, lack of unions, and the whole "if you want this dream job, suck it up about the hours" attitude. Animation, Previs, VFX, Stop-Motion, etc. It is definitely as pervasive in film/tv as it is in games, especially as film and tv rely more and more on these skills, and the local studios (in the US) struggle to compete with ones overseas that get subsidies from their governments and can therefore charge less, so the local ones have to rely on crunch and unpaid overtime. I try to do my small part as a teacher in this field. I encourage ambitious students, but I make sure to be clear about my distaste for crunch being normal and expected. I do my best to make sure they allow for breathing room in their schedule on large projects so they can take the occasional mental health break when they need it. Part of it is an attribution problem too. I know in the case of software, crunch code usually works in the short term, but it’s sort of held together with dental floss and gum. So eventually someone touches it, and it collapses into dust. But it takes effort to trace down which person caused the problem: was it the person who wrote the original code, or the person who touched it later? Usually it’s a lot easier to attribute the bug to the person who broke it, not the person who made it so easily broken. So if you’re not careful, you end up with this crunch spiral, where people keep having to work long hours to wrap more and more dental floss around this increasingly flimsy contraption. The less decompression time they have, the more their code comes to resemble a peyote trip, and the more work it requires to even read the darn thing — much less understand it enough to modify it safely.
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Dumped Drunk and Dalish @drunkdalishHere's the final post in my series on The Iron Bull's romance, on the tragedy of love with a Qun-loyal Bull. SPOILERS for #DragonAgeInquisition! With kudos to @bengelinas @realfpjr @karinweekes @patrickweekes @bioware. Thanks for reading! (weeps silently) www.dumpeddrunkanddalish.com/2018/02/the-spy-who-never-loved-me-iron-bulls.html … Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesThis is awesome. @eplerjc is also responsible for some of those terrifying moments of silent coldness in the afterglow talks, if you made Bad Choices. [HASH]DAT
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Sam Sykes @samsykesswears Tired: Describing writing as "lying for a living."
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seb hanlon @hanlspAs a lead, it’s important to remember this, _especially_ when things get shitty, and make sure your management practice reflects it for your team. Set good practices and a good example. And take your team out for dinner... a lot.
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Post by Hrungr on Feb 13, 2018 18:58:53 GMT
John Epler @eplerjc Game dev tip - Good QA is worth their weight in gold. Treat them well, and make sure they're regarded as part of the team, and not some antagonistic department out to make your life difficult.
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Post by vertigomez on Feb 13, 2018 19:11:55 GMT
I just want them to restock that one Tevinter hoodie. :sob:
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Post by TheodoricFriede on Feb 13, 2018 19:36:57 GMT
Personally I have kept hoping for them to sell either Hawkes Velvet Pajamas, or the Inquisitors not pajama, pajamas.
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Post by phoray on Feb 14, 2018 0:45:47 GMT
Personally I have kept hoping for them to sell either Hawkes Velvet Pajamas, or the Inquisitors not pajama, pajamas. Hawke's robe would be pretty easy to make if you have any sewing skills. hmm, I wonder what fabric I'd use... Maybe pad up and quilt some maroon velvet. Then you could either embroider the symbol or buy an iron patch you add stitches to. The inquisitors jams are so form fitting, it's practically a corset (in teh fact that you'd make it one size too small). I'd also use fabric with a high amount of spandex in it.
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Post by phoray on Feb 14, 2018 0:53:00 GMT
Kotaku @kotakuFor my third time through Dragon Age: Inquisition, I promise I'm not gonna romance Iron Bull: bit.ly/2EZKiz2 I was more interested in her much older "I hate Solas" post. I especially agree with this quote: Which is how I always took it.
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Post by midnight tea on Feb 14, 2018 1:51:46 GMT
Kotaku @kotakuFor my third time through Dragon Age: Inquisition, I promise I'm not gonna romance Iron Bull: bit.ly/2EZKiz2 I was more interested in her much older "I hate Solas" post. I especially agree with this quote: Which is how I always took it. Right. Only that's not how the conversation ended. It ended with Solas basically saying "I'll be there for you".
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Post by Gilli on Feb 14, 2018 2:02:24 GMT
I was more interested in her much older "I hate Solas" post. I especially agree with this quote: Which is how I always took it. Right. Only that's not how the conversation ended. It ended with Solas basically saying "I'll be there for you". Here the dialogue between them. (just for accuracy) Solas: You are not Tal-Vashoth, Iron Bull, not really. Iron Bull: Well that's a fuckin' relief. (if the Inquisitor is Qunari)Solas: No more then our Inquisitor, who's parents left the Qun before he/she was born. Solas: You are no beast, snapping under the stress of the Qun's harsh discipline. Solas: You are a man who made a choice... possibly the first of your life. Iron Bull: I've always liked fighting. What if I turn savage, like the other Tal-Vashoth? Solas: You have the Inquisition, you have the Inquisitor... and you have me. Iron Bull: Thanks, Solas.
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Post by melbella on Feb 14, 2018 2:39:34 GMT
Too bad he's lying about that last part.
He should have said, "You have me, until I up and disappear for two plus years, come back for 5 minutes to sorta reveal my big plans, then disappear again."
That's some great support there, Solas.
Well, at least the Inquisitor is still around.
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Post by TheodoricFriede on Feb 14, 2018 3:18:11 GMT
Hawke's robe would be pretty easy to make if you have any sewing skills. hmm, I wonder what fabric I'd use... Maybe pad up and quilt some maroon velvet. Then you could either embroider the symbol or buy an iron patch you add stitches to. Alas, the extent of my sewing skill is fixing the occasional tear.
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Post by arvaarad on Feb 14, 2018 5:08:41 GMT
Kotaku @kotakuFor my third time through Dragon Age: Inquisition, I promise I'm not gonna romance Iron Bull: bit.ly/2EZKiz2 I was more interested in her much older "I hate Solas" post. I especially agree with this quote: Which is how I always took it. Is this my cue to extend my crackpot Cole theories to Solas? Because if it is: Solas became powerful precisely because he’s a little tone deaf. Being (probably) a spirit of rebellion, oppressive regimes give him more chances to embody his emotion and grow stronger. But since he’s so into freedom, he’d never install an oppressive regime on purpose. So instead of intentionally creating the conditions that lead to empire, he had to repeatedly stumble into unintended consequences edhis-first. For that, a dash of tone-deafness works wonders. His conversation with Sera about the cyclical nature of revolution is a direct mirror to Justice’s conversation with Isabela about the cyclical nature of vengeance. In both cases, the spirit(?) agrees with the assessment, but it’s as if he’s hearing it for the first time. He’s benefited from that cycle of never-quite-fixed, but isn’t explicitly aware of it. He has to make mistakes, has to provoke and misjudge people. Because he wouldn’t perpetuate that cycle on purpose... but that cycle is what made him so powerful.
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Post by midnight tea on Feb 14, 2018 5:24:46 GMT
Is this my cue to extend my crackpot Cole theories to Solas? Because if it is: Solas became powerful precisely because he’s a little tone deaf. Being (probably) a spirit of rebellion, oppressive regimes give him more chances to embody his emotion and grow stronger. But since he’s so into freedom, he’d never install an oppressive regime on purpose. So instead of intentionally creating the conditions that lead to empire, he had to repeatedly stumble into unintended consequences edhis-first. For that, a dash of tone-deafness works wonders. His conversation with Sera about the cyclical nature of revolution is a direct mirror to Justice’s conversation with Isabela about the cyclical nature of vengeance. In both cases, the spirit(?) agrees with the assessment, but it’s as if he’s hearing it for the first time. He’s benefited from that cycle of never-quite-fixed, but isn’t explicitly aware of it. He has to make mistakes, has to provoke and misjudge people. Because he wouldn’t perpetuate that cycle on purpose... but that cycle is what made him so powerful. I don't think he's a spirit of rebellion. He's not the sort of person who lives to rebel and fight - he does it because he thinks he has to; and paralells with Inquisitor suggest responsibility hoisted on his back, more than something he's been itching for. In fact, even his grand slave rebellion wasn't spurred just because Solas was willing to perpetuate the cycle or something - we know his rebellion started because he's found something terrifying in Deep Roads and thought that Evanuris are going to end everything if he doesn't do something about it. And he's only created the Veil when Evanuris went too far and killed one of their own, potentially to become more powerful and unleashing something on the world Solas was so terrified of.
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Post by phoray on Feb 14, 2018 7:06:38 GMT
Mike Laidlaw @mike_LaidlawFirst day, they come and catch everyone... his reply was perfect
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Mike Laidlaw @mike_LaidlawFirst day, they come and catch everyone... his reply was perfect I can’t stop laughing at the mental image of a horde of darkspawn politely saying “oh, all right then, sorry to be a bother” and turning around to leave.
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