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Post by CrazyRah on Feb 21, 2018 0:43:47 GMT
Wow....I had totally forgotten that we referred to Dorian by that before his reveal Good times. Those really were some amazing times, people throwing around these names with so much excitement!
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Feb 21, 2018 0:45:45 GMT
I don't care what the writers thought, "Scribbles" was a much better nickname for Josie
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Post by Hrungr on Feb 21, 2018 0:46:26 GMT
Wow....I had totally forgotten that we referred to Dorian by that before his reveal Good times. Those really were some amazing times, people throwing around these names with so much excitement! Remember all the petitioning for "Scribbles" as Josie's nickname...?
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Feb 21, 2018 0:52:07 GMT
I don't care what the writers thought, "Scribbles" was a much better nickname for Josie Those really were some amazing times, people throwing around these names with so much excitement! Remember all the petitioning for "Scribbles" as Josie's nickname...? Nope - no idea what you're talking about
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Post by phoray on Feb 21, 2018 0:55:24 GMT
Wait.... they wanted the War Table to be that way? And people love it? Am I doing it wrong?
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Post by vertigomez on Feb 21, 2018 1:08:42 GMT
Wait.... they wanted the War Table to be that way? And people love it? Am I doing it wrong? I like the war table. I just wish it was a bit more involved. Would have liked to take care of some of those missions myself, or send my companions off to do them.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Feb 21, 2018 1:14:17 GMT
Wait.... they wanted the War Table to be that way? And people love it? Am I doing it wrong? I like the war table. I just wish it was a bit more involved. Would have liked to take care of some of those missions myself, or send my companions off to do them. Same. I occasionally wonder - while playing DA:I - how many war table missions we could've actually done ourselves if we were willing to make the noble sacrifice of shards, bottles, mosaics and maybe half the 'fetch' quests.... Probably not many, but I would've taken it.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Feb 21, 2018 1:20:59 GMT
I like the war table. I just wish it was a bit more involved. Would have liked to take care of some of those missions myself, or send my companions off to do them. Same. I occasionally wonder - while playing DA:I - how many war table missions we could've actually done ourselves if we were willing to make the noble sacrifice of shards, bottles, mosaics and maybe half the 'fetch' quests.... Probably not many, but I would've taken it. Yeah, like actually talking to the Queen or King for a bit longer would have been nice. I'd take any of the war tables as quests instead of pointless padding. Hell, even the companions had annoying collection quests. Why they thought that was a good idea I'll never know. Worse they added even more bottles and shards in the Decent and Hakon dlc.
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Post by vertigomez on Feb 21, 2018 1:22:18 GMT
I like the war table. I just wish it was a bit more involved. Would have liked to take care of some of those missions myself, or send my companions off to do them. Same. I occasionally wonder - while playing DA:I - how many war table missions we could've actually done ourselves if we were willing to make the noble sacrifice of shards, bottles, mosaics and maybe half the 'fetch' quests.... Probably not many, but I would've taken it. I would have sacrificed all that stuff just to meet the Valo-Kas one time. I wanted to rescue my homies myself..... idk maybe introduce them to my wife? Would've been grand.
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Post by Gilli on Feb 21, 2018 2:22:43 GMT
Wait.... they wanted the War Table to be that way? And people love it? Am I doing it wrong? I like the war table. I just wish it was a bit more involved. Would have liked to take care of some of those missions myself, or send my companions off to do them. I like the war table. I just wish it was a bit more involved. Would have liked to take care of some of those missions myself, or send my companions off to do them. Same. I occasionally wonder - while playing DA:I - how many war table missions we could've actually done ourselves if we were willing to make the noble sacrifice of shards, bottles, mosaics and maybe half the 'fetch' quests.... Probably not many, but I would've taken it. *coughs*Just play Multiplayer and you're soo involved in the War Table missions.*cough* I mean, really, you get: Escort Missions Getting artifacts: Killing high ranking targets: Also you get to hear Samson, pardon the "Red Templar Commander" shout "THOSE WERE MY MEN!"
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Feb 21, 2018 2:28:15 GMT
I like the war table. I just wish it was a bit more involved. Would have liked to take care of some of those missions myself, or send my companions off to do them. Same. I occasionally wonder - while playing DA:I - how many war table missions we could've actually done ourselves if we were willing to make the noble sacrifice of shards, bottles, mosaics and maybe half the 'fetch' quests.... Probably not many, but I would've taken it. *coughs*Just play Multiplayer and you're soo involved in the War Table missions.*cough* I mean, really, you get: Escort Missions Getting artifacts: Killing high ranking targets: Also you get to hear Samson, pardon the "Red Templar Commander" shout "THOSE WERE MY MEN!" Ewwww....multiplayer... 😉
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Post by Nightscrawl on Feb 21, 2018 3:11:09 GMT
Wait.... they wanted the War Table to be that way? And people love it? Am I doing it wrong? I like the war table. I just wish it was a bit more involved. Would have liked to take care of some of those missions myself, or send my companions off to do them. I like it, too. To me, it really added to the feeling of being Inquisitor and the leader of a large organization. Plus, I liked that you could shape the personality of your Inquisition through the choices. However, since I typically choose Josephine for, perhaps 2/3 of the operations, I'm stuck waiting a long time. (No, I'm not going to use the mod for that. Besides, not everyone can use mods.) I also use the WT to roleplay. I make considerate decisions based on the information given and my Inquisitor's RP.
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Post by phoray on Feb 21, 2018 3:28:05 GMT
*coughs*Just play Multiplayer and you're soo involved in the War Table missions.*cough* Your enthusiasm is so infectious. you make it sound so fun. I guess the one time I tried, I was glitching super bad, but it seemed very unexciting. Additionally, "leveling up" was super confusing. I buy a thing, but for who, and where do I get it? *meh quit*
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Post by vertigomez on Feb 21, 2018 3:49:20 GMT
I like the war table. I just wish it was a bit more involved. Would have liked to take care of some of those missions myself, or send my companions off to do them. I like it, too. To me, it really added to the feeling of being Inquisitor and the leader of a large organization. Plus, I liked that you could shape the personality of your Inquisition through the choices. However, since I typically choose Josephine for, perhaps 2/3 of the operations, I'm stuck waiting a long time. (No, I'm not going to use the mod for that. Besides, not everyone can use mods.) I also use the WT to roleplay. I make considerate decisions based on the information given and my Inquisitor's RP. Definitely. I always choose WT options based on roleplay - Cullen gets the most play because my Inquisitor likes sending soldiers out to build watchtowers, tackle demons, escort people to safety, etc. She's a hands-on lady and she runs her organization the same way.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Feb 21, 2018 4:05:50 GMT
The thing about the War Table is that the devs understood that they were making the best of a limited budget, but how are players supposed to know that? I get from their point of view it's better than nothing, but since players don't know that, it just comes across as, at best, puzzling and pointless, at worse, a goddamn nuisance.
And, to the point made above, a better trade-off would have been cutting back on some of the filler -- I mean, let's face it, there were not one, not two, but three separate collectibles intended to drive exploration, where any one of them would have sufficed -- and instead, using that budget to flesh out some of the more interesting mini-stories that ended up in the War Table.
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Post by TheodoricFriede on Feb 21, 2018 4:10:36 GMT
I probably would have liked the war table a lot more if I didn't have to adjust my system clock every goddamned time to finish them in less than 20 hours each.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Feb 21, 2018 4:17:19 GMT
I probably would have liked the war table a lot more if I didn't have to adjust my system clock every goddamned time to finish them in less than 20 hours each. If you're on PC, there's mods that work really well. Just a friendly FYI.
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Post by TheodoricFriede on Feb 21, 2018 4:36:17 GMT
If you're on PC, there's mods that work really well. Just a friendly FYI. I. Am. Not.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Feb 21, 2018 4:42:44 GMT
If you're on PC, there's mods that work really well. Just a friendly FYI. I. Am. Not.
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Post by melbella on Feb 21, 2018 4:45:12 GMT
I probably would have liked the war table a lot more if I didn't have to adjust my system clock every goddamned time to finish them in less than 20 hours each.
I agree some of the times were ridiculous but those I would just set to percolate overnight and they would be ready next day by the time I could play again. I don't see any reason why any of them should take more than hour though. Set 'em up, go do a quest or 2 (or craft everyone new armor ) come back and boom! Done. Ready for more.
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Post by TheodoricFriede on Feb 21, 2018 4:48:57 GMT
If Bioware games were playable on anything other than EA's Malware of a platform, I might consider it. Until then, I will enjoy the ease and convenience of a console.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Feb 21, 2018 4:50:28 GMT
If Bioware games were playable on anything other than EA's Malware of a platform, I might consider it. Until then, I will enjoy the ease and convenience of a console. Different strokes for different folks.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Feb 21, 2018 5:08:22 GMT
I probably would have liked the war table a lot more if I didn't have to adjust my system clock every goddamned time to finish them in less than 20 hours each.
I agree some of the times were ridiculous but those I would just set to percolate overnight and they would be ready next day by the time I could play again. I don't see any reason why any of them should take more than hour though. Set 'em up, go do a quest or 2 (or craft everyone new armor ) come back and boom! Done. Ready for more.
Yeah, talk about best intentions gone awry! You can kind of see how they backed into it. Not enough budget to do all these great mini-stories, so put them in a War Table. Well, you know, a "real" War Table would take a lot of game days for missions to complete, so let's simulate that with long player hours, give those players a hint of what a real commander might feel like, waiting to hear back what happened. Not realizing that long wait times for players, however "realistic" they may be, created a gigantic disincentive for players to experience the cool mini-stories in the first place! Espeically for multi-stage missions. I can barely remember what I did an hour ago, let alone 11 or 14. It wouldn't have been so bad if those long wait times weren't tied to having to visit one specific physical location, behind multiple loading screens no less, and didn't have valuable rewards attached, and wasn't conflated with progressing main and side quests. If there was a way to open up the War Table at any point in the game when you are stuck doing something boring -- like traversing the Hissing Wastes or farming Silverite nodes -- and could progress the mini-stories without worrying about making the wrong choice that would deny you the cool unique gear or the power-up amulet for Cassandra, I wouldn't have cared about the long waits so much. It would have been a pleasant way to kill time while otherwise occupied.
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Feb 21, 2018 5:09:53 GMT
*Hugs her No Waiting war table mod forever and ever *
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Feb 21, 2018 5:41:28 GMT
I don’t mind text adventurness of the war table so much except for background quests being there. And the cameos, like Zevran or Rhys and Evangeline. I suppose the background quests might not have been quite as grand if they’d been something we participated in cus then they become actual set pieces that need to be made. But keeping the text and just interacting in a pivotal quest in the chain would have been enough. For the Dalish one for example lemme go with whoever I sent my support with and defend my clan against the bandits, maybe changing conditions accordingly depending on war table choices. The wycome stuff (which was also cool) could stay text. Just give me a taste.
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