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Post by Gilli on Apr 5, 2018 23:15:22 GMT
Mike Laidlaw 🛫 PAX East @mike_Laidlaw Bull by @fetalol Mike Laidlaw 🛫 PAX East @mike_Laidlaw And now with Aveline sign action. Mike Laidlaw 🛫 PAX East @mike_Laidlaw Also @davidgaider, @liamesler wanted you to see this explicitly. [HASH]DAT
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Mike Laidlaw 🛫 PAX East @mike_Laidlaw Bull by @fetalol Mike Laidlaw 🛫 PAX East @mike_Laidlaw And now with Aveline sign action. Mike Laidlaw 🛫 PAX East @mike_Laidlaw Also @davidgaider, @liamesler wanted you to see this explicitly. [HASH]DAT Ha! The DON'T sign is good. I would have probably put on there "DON'T or I'll say Don't Again!"
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Post by Nightscrawl on Apr 5, 2018 23:36:43 GMT
Ha! The DON'T sign is good. I would have probably put on there "DON'T or I'll say Don't Again!" It's one of the best banters in the game. XD (Although I thought it should just be "no.")
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Post by Hrungr on Apr 6, 2018 0:25:04 GMT
Francesca Di Chiara @fvdichiara@mike_Laidlaw Are you going to be in any panels at PAX East on Fri/Sat/Sun? Mike Laidlaw🛫 PAX EastYes, a building a healthy community panel tomorrow at 8:00. - *Cough*... must... resist...
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Post by Hrungr on Apr 6, 2018 2:28:22 GMT
John Epler @eplerjc Sometimes I think of the perfect way to troll @patrickweekes and it's an actual physical effort not to do it.
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Post by Hrungr on Apr 6, 2018 5:26:30 GMT
Miellyn @miellynb Lunchtime poll: which #DragonAge character do you like to think you were and which DA character are you afraid you really are? Me: Alistair/Morrigan
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Post by wright1978 on Apr 6, 2018 11:49:08 GMT
And as either one of the Weekes or Gaider mentioned at HavenCon this past weekend, Dragon Age and Mass Effect romances are already extremely expensive ($500,000 to over $1,000,000 for EACH romance to cover the costs of animations, voices, etc. for romance-specific content), so it seems extremely doubtful that we'll ever get really in-depth romances in a game series that isn't actually a dating sim. That Reddit post has been deleted so I have no useful link to offer - here's where it was: https://www.reddit.com/r/dragonage/comments/88yxhp/dai_spoilers_dragon_age_things_from_havencon_2018/ What is the total cost of both games for context?
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Apr 6, 2018 13:22:06 GMT
What is the total cost of both games for context? As far as I know, that information isn't publically available. You can poke around online if you wish to try finding it.
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Post by Hrungr on Apr 6, 2018 13:38:32 GMT
What is the total cost of both games for context? As far as I know, that information isn't publically available. You can poke around online if you wish to try finding it. I've often heard $40M associated with ME:A.
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Post by Mresa on Apr 6, 2018 13:59:47 GMT
See that text, including marketing and research, they're like their own thing. 40 mill was used for actual game development, which for a game like that is actually very little, Witcher 3 was about twice that much.
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Post by river82 on Apr 6, 2018 14:04:07 GMT
See that text, including marketing and research, they're like their own thing. 40 mill was used for actual game development, which for a game like that is actually very little, Witcher 3 was about twice that much. Research is part of development. Also that wasn't the final cost.
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Post by river82 on Apr 6, 2018 14:10:09 GMT
That is, it also doesn't factor in the 6 month post free support the game was given because it was released in a very buggy state. The Witcher 3's total budget, which also includes marketing, was 80 million US. So the budgets of Andromeda and Witcher 3 are comparable: CEO Adam Kicinski revealed the game's total budget--including development and marketing costs--as 306 million złoty or about $81 million USD.www.gamespot.com/articles/this-is-how-much-the-witcher-3-cost-to-make/1100-6430409/
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Post by Hrungr on Apr 6, 2018 14:25:44 GMT
Yeah, $40M was the development cost. Marketing can easily cost as much as development.
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Post by midnight tea on Apr 6, 2018 14:46:00 GMT
That is, it also doesn't factor in the 6 month post free support the game was given because it was released in a very buggy state. I'm not really sure that you should characterize the support period as something that happened because of state of the game when it was released. Most games today have support period during which they churn out patches or improvements. DAI also had extended support and continued it until they released their paid and free DLC, a year past main game's release.
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Post by wickedcool on Apr 6, 2018 15:04:59 GMT
So bioware is at pax east. Do they have a booth
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Post by thats1evildude on Apr 6, 2018 15:19:44 GMT
Yeah, $40M was the development cost. Marketing can easily cost as much as development. With the AAA games, marketing can cost MORE than development. And ironically, the games guaranteed to sell often have the biggest marketing budgets.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Apr 6, 2018 15:28:35 GMT
Miellyn @miellynbLunchtime poll: which #DragonAge character do you like to think you were and which DA character are you afraid you really are? Me: Alistair/Morrigan Mike Laidlaw🛫 PAX EastVarric / Varric
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Post by Hrungr on Apr 6, 2018 15:29:37 GMT
So bioware is at pax east. Do they have a booth While a few Devs are there, I don't think they have an "official" presence there this year.
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Post by vertigomez on Apr 6, 2018 16:17:00 GMT
BioWare @biowareFull of lessons about life & death. But mostly death. ᴍ ᴏ ʟ ʟ ʏ💤 @hibirdsI had to design a golden book cover using popular media in class so I came up with the charming story of Hawke and his adventures moving to the big city in another country and how he learns to be a valuable member of society while making friends along the way. pbs.twimg.com/media/DZ-yVs3XUAEpdO3.jpg I would read the shit out of this. Miellyn @miellynbLunchtime poll: which #DragonAge character do you like to think you were and which DA character are you afraid you really are? Me: Alistair/Morrigan Mike Laidlaw🛫 PAX EastVarric / Varric I'm gonna have to go with... Sigrun/Bianca lolol
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Post by phoray on Apr 6, 2018 16:56:53 GMT
I'm gonna have to go with... Sigrun/Bianca lolol Oh maker. @_@ hmmmm.... Flemeth/Celene
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Post by simit on Apr 6, 2018 17:21:02 GMT
You know reading what you guys posted for the cost of each romance, makes me wonder if the best overall choice would be to shrink them right down to maybe 2 or 3 with better stories/time allocated to each, if its say for instance a set budget of say 6mill for romance wouldn't you rather have 3 in depth options intertwined with yours an the main narrative than 6 seperate washed down experiences that are all basically do my mission?
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Post by phoray on Apr 6, 2018 17:31:35 GMT
You know reading what you guys posted for the cost of each romance, makes me wonder if the best overall choice would be to shrink them right down to maybe 2 or 3 with better stories/time allocated to each, if its say for instance a set budget of say 6mill for romance wouldn't you rather have 3 in depth options intertwined with yours an the main narrative than 6 seperate washed down experiences that are all basically do my mission? Some people really like the non plot relevant romances. Then there are plot connected options such as Alistair, Morrigan, Leliana, Anders, Cassandra (if made Divine) and Solas. People who are politically connected or massively powerful, the movers and shakers of Thedas. I feel like DAI did a really good job for the high amount of romances they created. I feel MEA failed completely except for the main three. It may be that 9 is the max limit for quality vs quantity, and even then there was Harding feeling a little left out and people wishing they could have romanced Viv (what would that even look like, I imagine some sort of hot cold fiasco ala Yennifer of Vegenburg) Additionally, even with the 9 in DAI, some people didn't like any of them. And I also disliked that other than one instance, there was no casual NPC sex to express any of my hedonistic Inky's desires, reducing roleplay. I guess I hope for 8 romances in DA4, polished to the level of Cullen quality. (where there was a date and lots of hugs and a wedding) with a return of casual dalliances like Isabella in DAO and Zevran in DA2. So to answer your question, I don't consider DAI romances to be too washed out. Additionally, making only 2 or 3 options mean all three would have to be bisexual as well.
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Post by Hrungr on Apr 6, 2018 18:14:25 GMT
Der Zeitgeist @derzeitgeistHey @bioware , what's going on with these fruit? Does this stuff even run on my PS4? 🧐 #bioware pbs.twimg.com/media/DaHHnCwWAAEMQ_X.jpgBioWare @biowareWe produce games. Produce games. Produce. Makes sense to us. [HASH]DAT
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