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Post by smilesja on Jul 1, 2018 16:40:55 GMT
Mark's brain is probably overheating from all the responses he's sent on his Twitter But it seems to me that he has accumulated a lot of player community's good faith thanks to his efforts. By criticizing the games people don’t like.
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Post by phoray on Jul 1, 2018 17:01:14 GMT
It means 'goodbye and good luck' in Ancient Elven. Probably.) Blasphemy. It's pronounced B'lep m'lem m'lem.
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Post by Rascoth on Jul 1, 2018 17:46:10 GMT
It means 'goodbye and good luck' in Ancient Elven. Probably.) Blasphemy. It's pronounced B'lep m'lem m'lem. Still not enough apostrophes.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Jul 2, 2018 12:21:27 GMT
Patrick, on where the City of Ventus is...Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesAha, good question! Ventus is a new name for the city listed on older maps of Thedas as "Qarinus". In-game: Been like that for decades, celebrating an old Tevinter victory on the Ventosus Straits. City name change, yo. Out of Game: Everyone got Qarinus and Qunari mixed up. (Also definitely not a spoiler -- I think they cover that in the first pages of the Deception comic.) So... the city formarly know as Qarinus (on the coast, near the Arlathan Forest). Who in the world thought those were the same word? They're spelled different, they're pronounced differently, ones a person and ones a place so they aren't used in the same context to be easily conflated... Just... okay??? There's no need to be so offensive. I am a real DA fan and I've paid good money for an awful lot of products that have been produced to supplement the games. I am not the only person who gets a little fed up when it seems that the information in those products can be changed in this way So it doesn't matter to you. Fine, but don't insult other people simply because it does and they have wished to express that view. I mean your point about not being sactimonious about being a real DA fan might have worked better if you hadn't brought up how much money you spent on DA products - like c'mon. that's a bit ridiculous, and I say that as a person who's bought the World of Thedas books and the novels. It doesn't make me any better then anyone who was confusing Qarinus and Qunari - it's important to consider newcomers to the series as we were all newcomers once - I recently was trying to get one of my friends to try Dragon Age and it was actually very difficult to explain the setting and lore. And we need newcomers coming in too. Yes, we were all newcomers once. And we learned that the city of Qarinus is not 7 feet tall with horns. They can do it, too.
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Post by wickedcool on Jul 2, 2018 14:41:15 GMT
So do we know why they changed the name? Hundreds of cities in the real world have changed throughout history. Are they retconning it ?
Regardless I look at it as a positive for da4 and a mild confirmation on where next game is.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 2, 2018 17:42:53 GMT
So do we know why they changed the name? Hundreds of cities in the real world have changed throughout history. Are they retconning it ? Check out the comic specific thread for the answer to this. Regardless I look at it as a positive for da4 and a mild confirmation on where next game is. Yes, regardless of how you feel about the name change, it is the first positive confirmation about the next game. It must be at least partly in Tevinter and feature Dorian's home city because if it didn't then the "confusion" over the name would not have been an issue.
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Post by wickedcool on Jul 2, 2018 21:06:52 GMT
Question on the Varric book- is this based on actual events in da universe or is this fiction in a fictional universe
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Post by melbella on Jul 3, 2018 0:36:34 GMT
Question on the Varric book- is this based on actual events in da universe or is this fiction in a fictional universe
I believe the latter though, if you've read the codex entries for all the chapters in DAI, you'll notice many similarities to names of "actual" people in the universe.
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Post by Hrungr on Jul 3, 2018 5:40:49 GMT
Paula Kirkus ⭕️ @midgetpaula Would these [Dragon Age Comics] be considered canon?
Patrick Weekes @patrickweekes Yes, except that in places where an assumption is made about past events that a player could have chosen differently for. Then assume that the past-event section is not true for everyone, but picked as reasonable.
Clumsy Example: In the Magekiller series, Marius and Tessa meet the Chargers. For games where the Inquisitor never recruited Bull, the bit about the Chargers isn’t true, but Marius and Tessa still worked for the Inquisition and did the major events.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 3, 2018 5:49:40 GMT
Paula Kirkus ⭕️ @midgetpaula
Would these [Dragon Age Comics] be considered canon? Patrick Weekes @patrickweekes
Yes, except that in places where an assumption is made about past events that a player could have chosen differently for. Then assume that the past-event section is not true for everyone, but picked as reasonable. Clumsy Example: In the Magekiller series, Marius and Tessa meet the Chargers. For games where the Inquisitor never recruited Bull, the bit about the Chargers isn’t true, but Marius and Tessa still worked for the Inquisition and did the major events. [HASH]DAT As much as I think this does work out most of the time there is one mind blowing implication if: Wynne got killed in Dragon Age Origins, just think about how much the plot of Asunder would have changed if that happened. Even if it would have happened at all. I mean I suppose they'd say 'another mage would just do it' but I do not think Evangeline is dead in a PT with Wynne dead in Origins.
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Post by bshep on Jul 3, 2018 5:54:43 GMT
That is pure BS. They should just choose some canon choices and move on with it.
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Post by Hrungr on Jul 3, 2018 6:06:17 GMT
Paula Kirkus ⭕️ @midgetpaula
Would these [Dragon Age Comics] be considered canon? Patrick Weekes @patrickweekes
Yes, except that in places where an assumption is made about past events that a player could have chosen differently for. Then assume that the past-event section is not true for everyone, but picked as reasonable. Clumsy Example: In the Magekiller series, Marius and Tessa meet the Chargers. For games where the Inquisitor never recruited Bull, the bit about the Chargers isn’t true, but Marius and Tessa still worked for the Inquisition and did the major events. [HASH]DAT As much as I think this does work out most of the time there is one mind blowing implication if: Wynne got killed in Dragon Age Origins, just think about how much the plot of Asunder would have changed if that happened. Even if it would have happened at all. I mean I suppose they'd say 'another mage would just do it' but I do not think Evangeline is dead in a PT with Wynne dead in Origins. Possible out... Wynne's spirit of faith revived her from death once before, so she could have been brought back again to play out the events in Asunder.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 3, 2018 6:08:03 GMT
As much as I think this does work out most of the time there is one mind blowing implication if: Wynne got killed in Dragon Age Origins, just think about how much the plot of Asunder would have changed if that happened. Even if it would have happened at all. I mean I suppose they'd say 'another mage would just do it' but I do not think Evangeline is dead in a PT with Wynne dead in Origins. Possible out... Wynne's spirit of faith revived her from death once before, so she could have been brought back again to play out the events in Asunder. Honestly that is an out that makes a lot of sense too given how many times we have seen magic revive dead or 'near dead' companions too. I guess we just have to assume that Dragon Age is like Star Trek/ the Arrowverse, no one stays dead.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Jul 3, 2018 6:09:21 GMT
That is pure BS. They should just choose some canon choices and move on with it. Meh, I don't think any of the ancillary materials have been harmed by their choosing to write around these things. Let's just take Magekiller as an example, since Patrick Weekes used it. Sure, there is the Chargers thing, and Dorian as well, if you recruited him, but not having the Inquisitor present doesn't take anything away from the story. Neither would the Inquisitor's presence add anything. Magekiller is about Marius and Tessa and an outsider look at the events of DAI. In that series, the Inquisitor isn't important and can remain a nameless, faceless shadow. It just so happens that having the Inquisitor as a shadow helps players that would be taken out of the story if the PC were made more explicit. They choose some canon events, like in the David Gaider-written Alistair and co. comics, but not everything needs to be made explicit.
In this upcoming comic, if Dorian makes an appearance, he might reference his time with the Inquisition, which would imply that he was in fact recruited. I don't see much more than that, actually given that Tevinter is so removed from events in the South, so it's less likely that player canon interferes with whatever story the comic has to tell.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 3, 2018 7:02:40 GMT
I assume that the comics being considered canon means that plots that were set up in them are going to be involved in the next game. For example, red lyrium is going to feature when we get to Tevinter and trying to stop its spread is likely to be an important element.
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Post by midnight tea on Jul 3, 2018 12:46:07 GMT
I assume that the comics being considered canon means that plots that were set up in them are going to be involved in the next game. For example, red lyrium is going to feature when we get to Tevinter and trying to stop its spread is likely to be an important element. True, but given the big role red lyrium had in DAI means that they could do that without the comic as well. It's not a stretch to imagine that at some point someone has managed to smuggle enough of red lyrium to Tevinter for it to be trouble. And while events will likely be linked, we don't know how linked they will be - how much comic characters will be involved and how much things we see in comics set up what we'd see in the game. On one hand, say, making Dorian travel with Chargers to break ice with Marius in Magekiller suggests that they want those characters acquainted and trust one another enough to work together... on another they could just Rogue One almost everyone, but set in motion important events around the main plot.
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Post by midnight tea on Jul 3, 2018 12:48:40 GMT
Paula Kirkus ⭕️ @midgetpaula
Would these [Dragon Age Comics] be considered canon? Patrick Weekes @patrickweekes
Yes, except that in places where an assumption is made about past events that a player could have chosen differently for. Then assume that the past-event section is not true for everyone, but picked as reasonable. Clumsy Example: In the Magekiller series, Marius and Tessa meet the Chargers. For games where the Inquisitor never recruited Bull, the bit about the Chargers isn’t true, but Marius and Tessa still worked for the Inquisition and did the major events. Hah - so it is exactly how many think these things work, despite some disbelievers.
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Post by LukeBarrett on Jul 3, 2018 16:30:29 GMT
Fun fact (and self plug), when Casey says at the beginning about "figuring out what a (sic) next Dragon Age might look like" the clip used is me walking by (during late Inquisition development) wearing a DAI T-shirt - how appropriate
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Post by enaste on Jul 3, 2018 16:42:27 GMT
Fun fact (and self plug), when Casey says at the beginning about "figuring out what a (sic) next Dragon Age might look like" the clip used is me walking by (during late Inquisition development) wearing a DAI T-shirt - how appropriate You know mentioning next, Dragon, Age, late, development in one sentence is going to raise a dozen new tweets?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2018 20:01:30 GMT
Why is hrungr's avatar suddenly so much fancier?
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He's earned it?
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Post by Hrungr on Jul 3, 2018 23:36:36 GMT
Why is hrungr's avatar suddenly so much fancier? Okay, seriously... @howyummy 's awesome.
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