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Post by OhDaniGirl on Sept 13, 2018 23:30:21 GMT
I wonder why the VO can't open their mouth in this situation. Is their character gagged,perhaps? Saarebas?
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Post by Hrungr on Sept 13, 2018 23:37:29 GMT
I wonder why the VO can't open their mouth in this situation. Is their character gagged,perhaps? Saarebas? I think he just wants someone to make a lazy/disinterested "I dunno" noise along with a shrug. |
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Post by githcheater on Sept 13, 2018 23:37:49 GMT
David Gaider @davidgaiderSomething I’ll never get: DA fans who still bring up “egg” every time Solas is mentioned, or vice-versa. Because Solas is bald, you see. This is, evidently, the height of hilarity. [HASH]DAT While I never found that meme amusing Gaider just sounds like a bitter old man here. I mean why complain about something as meaningless as that? Guess he must be bored out of his mind. I prefer genuine "grumpy honest" to phony "marketing-happy-speak" |
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Post by azarhal on Sept 13, 2018 23:50:35 GMT
I wonder why the VO can't open their mouth in this situation. Is their character gagged,perhaps? Saarebas? Probably something similar to Cassandra's "disgusted noises" and "snarls" moment in DAI. |
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Post by midnight tea on Sept 14, 2018 0:15:42 GMT
I wonder why the VO can't open their mouth in this situation. Is their character gagged,perhaps? Saarebas? Probably something similar to Cassandra's "disgusted noises" and "snarls" moment in DAI. True, it may be quirk of a character. It's also a probable indicator that there will be more scenes with pretty elaborate animations. |
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Post by ajensis on Sept 14, 2018 7:23:41 GMT
I prefer genuine "grumpy honest" to phony "marketing-happy-speak"
I prefer "non-grumpy honest" to "grumpy honest" 
Not that I'm terribly bothered by Gaider's tweet, he can say whatever he wants, it just doesn't add anything positive to anyone's life to read a tweet like that. But I guess he just needed to vent, which is fair enough.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Sept 14, 2018 7:50:22 GMT
Patrick Weekes @patrickweekes
Sometimes content voice actors have to perform means spending far too long staring at the screen trying to figure out how to write the subtitle for "Sound of someone trying to say 'I dunno' without opening their mouth." Also, fun fact, I apparently cannot make the "mouth-closed-I-dunno" noise without shrugging my left shoulder. I did the sound as I was reading the tweet, before I got to the "fun fact" sentence, and I shrugged my left shoulder to do it. Little weirded out now. |
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Post by thats1evildude on Sept 14, 2018 7:58:22 GMT
So much of communication is nonverbal, it's not surprising that your instinct is to shrug when saying, "I don't know."
I can do it without shrugging my shoulder.
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Post by Avejajed on Sept 14, 2018 20:50:55 GMT
While I never found that meme amusing Gaider just sounds like a bitter old man here. I mean why complain about something as meaningless as that? Guess he must be bored out of his mind. I prefer genuine "grumpy honest" to phony "marketing-happy-speak" I still wonder why someone who has moved on to other projects is talking so much about dragon age. I think he's gone back to Bioware to take Mike's job. |
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Post by midnight tea on Sept 14, 2018 21:15:25 GMT
I prefer genuine "grumpy honest" to phony "marketing-happy-speak" I still wonder why someone who has moved on to other projects is talking so much about dragon age. I think he's gone back to Bioware to take Mike's job. I'm not sure I understand this? He may not be actively working on the project, but it's still his baby in large part and he dedicated a significant portion of his life working on it... Nevermind that he's still friends or living around people who are currently working on next DA. |
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Post by Avejajed on Sept 14, 2018 21:24:45 GMT
I still wonder why someone who has moved on to other projects is talking so much about dragon age. I think he's gone back to Bioware to take Mike's job. I'm not sure I understand this? He may not be actively working on the project, but it's still his baby in large part and he dedicated a significant portion of his life working on it... Nevermind that he's still friends or living around people who are currently working on next DA. He went from not mentioning it much at all while working at beamdog. That's been my opinion all along and I've mentioned it here several times. They said to me on Twitter that Mike's job (creative director) has been taken but has not been announced. Months and months. David left beamdog, Mike left Bioware..... I mean, makes sense to me. |
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Post by midnight tea on Sept 14, 2018 21:44:13 GMT
I'm not sure I understand this? He may not be actively working on the project, but it's still his baby in large part and he dedicated a significant portion of his life working on it... Nevermind that he's still friends or living around people who are currently working on next DA. He went from not mentioning it much at all while working at beamdog. That's been my opinion all along and I've mentioned it here several times. They said to me on Twitter that Mike's job (creative director) has been taken but has not been announced. Months and months. David left beamdog, Mike left Bioware..... I mean, makes sense to me. Well of course... he was working at Beamdog at the time and was probably very busy. Now he's not so - presumably - he has more time. And I find it very unlikely that Gaider is a creative director. His Twitter profile says 'formerly of Bioware' and he keeps denying working in BW as recently as a few hours ago. At best I think they could make him a guest writer, like Kennedy or Karpyshyn for Anthem, but even that is a far-fetched speculation, especially given his denials. Both Kennedy and Karpyshyn were fairly open about their work. Anyway - Matt Goldman on his LinkedIn (since Oct '17 to present) and Daniel Kading on his Twitter have 'creative directors' in their descriptions. It's fairly certain they're on DA team. |
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Post by midnight tea on Sept 14, 2018 21:48:07 GMT
Also, the very likely reason why he was talking about Solas at all recently:
So nope... it was not out of nowhere, but it has a very simple explanation.
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Post by Hrungr on Sept 14, 2018 21:57:17 GMT
He went from not mentioning it much at all while working at beamdog. That's been my opinion all along and I've mentioned it here several times. They said to me on Twitter that Mike's job (creative director) has been taken but has not been announced. Months and months. David left beamdog, Mike left Bioware..... I mean, makes sense to me. Well of course... he was working at Beamdog at the time and was probably very busy. Now he's not so - presumably - he has more time. And I find it very unlikely that Gaider is a creative director. His Twitter profile says 'formerly of Bioware' and he keeps denouncing working in BW as recently as a few hours ago. At best I think they could make him a guest writer, like Kennedy or Karpyshyn for Anthem, but even that is a far-fetched speculation, especially given his denials. Both Kennedy and Karpyshyn were fairly open about their work. Anyway - Matt Goldman on his LinkedIn (since Oct '17 to present) and Daniel Kading on his Twitter have 'creative directors' in their descriptions. It's fairly certain they're on DA team. I assumed it was Matt Goldman as he became a Creative Director the same month Mike left...  |
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Post by Hrungr on Sept 14, 2018 23:29:46 GMT
I'm not sure I understand this? He may not be actively working on the project, but it's still his baby in large part and he dedicated a significant portion of his life working on it... Nevermind that he's still friends or living around people who are currently working on next DA. He went from not mentioning it much at all while working at beamdog. That's been my opinion all along and I've mentioned it here several times. They said to me on Twitter that Mike's job (creative director) has been taken but has not been announced. Months and months. David left beamdog, Mike left Bioware..... I mean, makes sense to me.
maybe if you announced the new game people would let it go David Gaider @davidgaider
I don't work for BioWare. I am not about to announce anything, am I. - That was timely... |
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Post by phoray on Sept 14, 2018 23:41:45 GMT
I think Gaider is getting irritated that all his followers are mostly DA fans not Gaider fans. Not enough people are loving him for him.  My take on it. Why lash out when you could just ignore unless it's actually bothering you. |
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Post by Avejajed on Sept 14, 2018 23:57:58 GMT
He went from not mentioning it much at all while working at beamdog. That's been my opinion all along and I've mentioned it here several times. They said to me on Twitter that Mike's job (creative director) has been taken but has not been announced. Months and months. David left beamdog, Mike left Bioware..... I mean, makes sense to me.
maybe if you announced the new game people would let it go David Gaider @davidgaider
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Sept 15, 2018 4:31:41 GMT
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maybe if you announced the new game people would let it go David Gaider @davidgaider
I don't work for BioWare. I am not about to announce anything, am I. - That was timely... He says.... (I've used no logic but I'm sticking by it lol) He just came back from working for a couple of months in Melbourne, Australia, and is back in Canada "for a while". There are no BioWare studios in Melbourne, Australia. I honestly think he's gone indie or freelance writer/narrative design consultant. |
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Post by Zemgus on Sept 15, 2018 4:51:23 GMT
I think Gaider is getting irritated that all his followers are mostly DA fans not Gaider fans. Not enough people are loving him for him. My take on it. Why lash out when you could just ignore unless it's actually bothering you. How many people working in the video game industry even have their own fans? People who like their work might follow them in hopes of some inside info or game news. Me personally I don't care about what former Bioware employees tweet about. Their gym routine really is of no interest to me. I'm just here still waiting for that DA4 announcement. |
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Post by thats1evildude on Sept 15, 2018 6:34:57 GMT
How many people working in the video game industry even have their own fans? I’m fairly certain that PC gamers were required to keep a candlelit shrine to Gabe Newell at one point. They might have relaxed that requirement since Valve stopped making actual games. (Nobody quote me with a whiny “But what about Artifaaaaaaact?” You know what I meant.) |
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Post by Serza on Sept 15, 2018 8:28:05 GMT
How many people working in the video game industry even have their own fans? I’m fairly certain that PC gamers were required to keep a candlelit shrine to Gabe Newell at one point. They might have relaxed that requirement since Valve stopped making actual games. (Nobody quote me with a whiny “But what about Artifaaaaaaact?” You know what I meant.)
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Post by arvaarad on Sept 15, 2018 12:37:08 GMT
I think Gaider is getting irritated that all his followers are mostly DA fans not Gaider fans. Not enough people are loving him for him. My take on it. Why lash out when you could just ignore unless it's actually bothering you. How many people working in the video game industry even have their own fans? People who like their work might follow them in hopes of some inside info or game news. Me personally I don't care about what former Bioware employees tweet about. Their gym routine really is of no interest to me. I'm just here still waiting for that DA4 announcement. Nonsense, I’m sure if we keep digging, we’ll find a codex. Just like all the other times this forum went on a bender trying to prove that Gaider was secretly bitter about one thing or another. He can’t possibly be a normal-ass person who tweets mildly funny stuff and then forgets about it immediately. It’s all part of some grand, dramatic character arc.  Seriously though, I agree. Can we focus on dissecting the games/announcements, which have a narrative to dissect, rather than real people, who don’t? Any narrative that gets ascribed to real game developers is usually a hallucination. |
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Post by Avejajed on Sept 15, 2018 13:10:22 GMT
Plus, DG has always been kind of an asshole, it's not exactly news. I mean his personality has been the same for years now lol
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Post by Mresa on Sept 15, 2018 16:24:25 GMT
Plus, DG has always been kind of an asshole, it's not exactly news. I mean his personality has been the same for years now lol Really wouldn't call DG an asshole. He's annoyed and I don't blame him, has had to deal with lot of shit coming from shitty fans. |
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Sept 15, 2018 16:31:12 GMT
I’m fairly certain that PC gamers were required to keep a candlelit shrine to Gabe Newell at one point. They might have relaxed that requirement since Valve stopped making actual games. (Nobody quote me with a whiny “But what about Artifaaaaaaact?” You know what I meant.)
Valve making actual games? We have dismissed this claim.
Shucks I loved Valve games....they were just wonderfully medium you know? They didn't push the boundaries too far with graphics so they'd always work on my average laptops, and the concepts were great. *sigh* All my favourites suck now, or they just stopped making stuff.  |
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My take on it. Why lash out when you could just ignore unless it's actually bothering you.
