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Post by DragonKingReborn on Oct 29, 2018 19:57:23 GMT
Well, would more likely work if it was a really big, juicy tidbit!  Like, the whole game!  Plot twist: Anthem is a Master Troll act of misdirection. There is no Anthem. It is a smokescreen. In February next year, the Anthem page will change to Dragon Age 4 and the game will release to thunderous cheers and rapturous applause. |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 29, 2018 20:02:05 GMT
Gamedam Meister @gamedammeister Christina Weir @ndefilippis I had a question about your Dragon Age comics(love them btw and looking forward to more 🙂). I saw that Aaron and Olivia had a romantic history and that made me wonder: Are any of the characters in them Asexual or Demisexual or could be interpreted that way?
Nunzio DeFilippis @ndefilippisWe hadn't really created anyone as asexual or demisexual. However, we have written Vaea with a general lack of sexual attraction to anyone. We're still deciding how that will play out. |
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Post by NotN7 on Oct 29, 2018 20:07:31 GMT
sorry but if DA goes "live" like they have been discussing then I will not be playing since and I have said it before I have crap for internet and i'm not moving so be as it will I will not play just casue they say this the way it should go.  |
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Post by Serza on Oct 29, 2018 20:16:45 GMT
Starting to sound like Vaea is not planned as a romance.
Seriously... I can only be sad on that front for so long...
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 29, 2018 20:19:28 GMT
Starting to sound like Vaea is not planned as a romance. Seriously... I can only be sad on that front for so long... Not all romances have to involve sex. The DA devs have even talked about maybe doing an asexual romance eventually, while they are interested in having more have sex be either optional or ambiguous. |
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Post by thats1evildude on Oct 29, 2018 20:24:23 GMT
A romance without sex. Huzzah. Sounds about as exciting as shopping for furniture.  |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 29, 2018 20:24:59 GMT
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Post by Serza on Oct 29, 2018 20:26:53 GMT
Starting to sound like Vaea is not planned as a romance. Seriously... I can only be sad on that front for so long... Not all romances have to involve sex. The DA devs have even talked about maybe doing an asexual romance eventually, while they are interested in having more have sex be either optional or ambiguous.
It's not a confirmed thing yet. I'll wait. God knows I'm good at that.
A romance without sex. Huzzah. Sounds about as exciting as shopping for furniture.
Hey, some of us enjoy shopping for furniture.
You know, the kind that has a pair of wings, engines and a big ol' rotary 20mm gun up front, and goes up to a thousand knots.
Shit, that's not furniture, is it. That... actually matches the profile of an F/A-18C Hornet...
Crap, I'll be in the hangar.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 29, 2018 20:32:57 GMT
A romance without sex. Huzzah. Sounds about as exciting as shopping for furniture. I'm sure there will be other romances for you to fap to. What's the harm in letting other people have what they want? Not all romances have to involve sex. The DA devs have even talked about maybe doing an asexual romance eventually, while they are interested in having more have sex be either optional or ambiguous. It's not a confirmed thing yet. I'll wait. God knows I'm good at that. Hopefully it stays the way it is. |
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Post by Serza on Oct 29, 2018 20:36:03 GMT
A romance without sex. Huzzah. Sounds about as exciting as shopping for furniture. I'm sure there will be other romances for you to fap to. What's the harm in letting other people have what they want? It's not a confirmed thing yet. I'll wait. God knows I'm good at that. Hopefully it stays the way it is.
Whoa, you mean, like, no romance? Because I'd much rather have something ambiguous, if the scene itself just ain't there.
God knows I'm not looking for a woman just for the bouncy bits.
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Post by thats1evildude on Oct 29, 2018 20:37:47 GMT
It’s not about masturbation, Hanako. (There’s porn for that.)
Romance is just synonymous with sex for me. Without it, you’re just really good friends. (Or roommates, if you’re living together.)
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 29, 2018 20:38:10 GMT
I'm sure there will be other romances for you to fap to. What's the harm in letting other people have what they want? Hopefully it stays the way it is. Whoa, you mean, like, no romance? Because I'd much rather have something ambiguous, if the scene itself just ain't there. God knows I'm not looking for a woman just for the bouncy bits.
No, I meant her having "a general lack of sexual attraction to anyone". I definitely want a romance, even more now since it could be the first time a character is representative of me canonically. It’s not about masturbation, Hanako. (There’s porn for that.) Romance is just synonymous with sex for me. Without it, you’re just really good friends. (Or roommates, if you’re living together.) Needless to say I couldn't disagree with you more vehemently. |
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Post by midnight tea on Oct 29, 2018 21:57:40 GMT
This place is gonna explode when they go official with it. That is, unless they're literally shut down in case Anthem flops, and from what I gather, there's not much interest, among the hardcore fans, or the casuals. You gather from... where exactly? The Internet machine seems to be humming months before launch and aside from a few negative nancies here and there I don't really see Anthem being hit with negative press. Plus - live service games like Anthem don't necessarily have to have a strong start (and I am willing to bet that unless Anthem does something as ludicrous as drawing the attention of every gamer there is at launch date the negative crowd will state that the game's flopped). More than a few games these days have become quite popular/successful after pretty poor first few months/year - like Division, or Rainbow Six Siege or Warframe. Conclusion? So long as Anthem has a strong backbone - and by that I mean strong post-launch support - I don't think the game's in much trouble. The biggest thing that seemed to have turned people away from Destiny 2 were post-launch hijinks (and from what I saw the game is now beating Fortnite and Spider Man on consoles, profit-wise). Plus, Bioware itself has experience with turning their supposedly 'failing' long-term project into a huge financial success with SWTOR. They got a 1 billion dollars revenue out of that game in 2015. Heck, even MEA seems to have turned a satisfying profit for EA, given their comments in internal reports... In other words, I don't think I'd worry that much about Bioware. |
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Post by Serza on Oct 29, 2018 22:09:34 GMT
This place is gonna explode when they go official with it. That is, unless they're literally shut down in case Anthem flops, and from what I gather, there's not much interest, among the hardcore fans, or the casuals. You gather from... where exactly? The Internet machine seems to be humming months before launch and aside from a few negative nancies here and there I don't really see Anthem being hit with negative press. Plus - live service games like Anthem don't necessarily have to have a strong start (and I am willing to bet that unless Anthem does something as ludicrous as drawing the attention of every gamer there is at launch date the negative crowd will state that the game's flopped). More than a few games these days have become quite popular/successful after pretty poor first few months/year - like Division, or Rainbow Six Siege or Warframe. Conclusion? So long as Anthem has a strong backbone - and by that I mean strong post-launch support - I don't think the game's in much trouble. The biggest thing that seemed to have turned people away from Destiny 2 were post-launch hijinks (and from what I saw the game is now beating Fortnite and Spider Man on consoles, profit-wise). Plus, Bioware itself has experience with turning their supposedly 'failing' long-term project into a huge financial success with SWTOR. They got a 1 billion dollars revenue out of that game in 2015. Heck, even MEA seems to have turned a satisfying profit for EA, given their comments in internal reports... In other words, I don't think I'd worry that much about Bioware.
It looks a little different once you look around, and it's different enough to make me worry.
Let's leave it at that.
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Post by thats1evildude on Oct 29, 2018 22:17:07 GMT
As I’ve said elsewhere, I’m as much worried about Anthem’s potential success smothering Dragon Age as I am its potential failure. But I’ve ranted enough about that.
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Post by midnight tea on Oct 29, 2018 22:32:30 GMT
It looks a little different once you look around, and it's different enough to make me worry. Let's leave it at that.
I'm not entirely sure what you mean by 'looking around', though suspect you mean anecdotal data - and there's a reason why anecdotes are considered to be the least forms of evidence. And let's leave it at that until more robust data comes in. |
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Post by midnight tea on Oct 29, 2018 22:35:38 GMT
As I’ve said elsewhere, I’m as much worried about Anthem’s potential success smothering Dragon Age as I am its potential failure. So you assume that Anthem is going to be harmful to other Bioware projects regardless of whether it succeeds or fails? |
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Post by Serza on Oct 29, 2018 22:43:38 GMT
It looks a little different once you look around, and it's different enough to make me worry. Let's leave it at that.
I'm not entirely sure what you mean by 'looking around', though suspect you mean anecdotal data - and there's a reason why anecdotes are considered to be the least form of evidence. And let's leave it at that until more robust data comes in.
Those are my observations. They may be incorrect, but right now, I have little reason to doubt them.
Obviously it will be hard to prove observation outside of a scientific field. Let's drop this, it won't go anywhere. With luck, it's just the paranoia talking. I wish that took breaks.
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Post by themikefest on Oct 29, 2018 23:15:44 GMT
Well, would more likely work if it was a really big, juicy tidbit! Like letting the fans know the Inquisitor will be the main character in the next da game.   |
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Post by natetrace on Oct 29, 2018 23:18:18 GMT
I like all the back and forth over sex and Dragon Age and Anthems possible success/failure. I don't care if there is an asexual romance in DA4, for me sex is a necessity but not everyone is me. I should say it was a necessity when I was younger, now sex happening is more determined by if our backs don't hurt too bad after a long day lol.
As for if Anthem and DA4 will succeed, I do think they'll do well. I do think, however, that a large number of people, especially younger gamers, fall into the trap of buying into negativity. Especially from YouTubers who claim to be on the consumers side, while asking for money from their loyal viewers. Smash that subscribe button!
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Post by ellawyn on Oct 30, 2018 4:06:51 GMT
I'm sure Anthem will do fine, but tbh I worry more about Bioware's reputation and less about their finances. The endless nay-saying rants claiming that Bioware's on the brink of death always sounded more like wishful thinking instead of accurate analysis to me. But the fact that said wishful thinking is about Bioware's death is disconcerting enough, I'd think. Not the least because Inquisition genuinely did feel sort of... odd. Too much open-world, not enough of the companions, imo. I hope they model DA4 off of Trespasser, because it was singularly the best part of the game for me. (Despite it technically not being part of the game.)
But I think the fear that Anthem's success will negatively effect DA4 carry more weight than its failure shuttering the studio. If Andromeda proved nothing else, it's that EA will push out a game if they've already invested a certain amount of resources in it. Given that DA4's been in development for years now, I imagine they'd rather shove out a half-finished mess and then close the studio. |
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Post by colfoley on Oct 30, 2018 4:26:20 GMT
I'm sure Anthem will do fine, but tbh I worry more about Bioware's reputation and less about their finances. The endless nay-saying rants claiming that Bioware's on the brink of death always sounded more like wishful thinking instead of accurate analysis to me. But the fact that said wishful thinking is about Bioware's death is disconcerting enough to me. Not the least because Inquisition genuinely did feel sort of... odd. Too much open-world, not enough of the companions, imo. I hope they model DA4 off of Trespasser, because it was singularly the best part of the game for me. (Despite it technically not being part of the game.)
But I think the fear that Anthem's success will negatively effect DA4 carry more weight than its failure shuttering the studio. If Andromeda proved nothing else, it's that EA will push out a game if they've already invested a certain amount of resources in it. Given that DA4's been in development for years now, I imagine they'd rather shove out a half-finished mess and then close the studio. People hate EA and BioWare is a part of EA so you will always have some segment of the population constantly moaning about their games no matter what they do. I think the days of Tripple A RPGS like...Mass Effect or DA 2, are probably looonnng gone. But remember we've had what? 5 years? 6? of technological development between DA Is release and now. And there seem to be a lot of 'big' games out there that have really pushed the envelope in terms of story content in an 'open' world. Everything from Witcher 3 to HZD to Assassin's Creed Oddyssey seem to be getting fairly universal praise and they aren't quite alone. Plus DAI did try and release on two console generations at once which has been a much talked about problem for them. Note that neither Tresspasser or Descent was released on the last generation console and those turned out just fine. Now either with them releasing the game late this gen or for the next generation could solve a lot of these problems plus them learning their lesson plus the long development time I think DA 4 is going to be a very different animal from DA I in terms of side quests and livelieness of the world. |
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Oct 30, 2018 4:32:15 GMT
I'm sure Anthem will do fine, but tbh I worry more about Bioware's reputation and less about their finances. The endless nay-saying rants claiming that Bioware's on the brink of death always sounded more like wishful thinking instead of accurate analysis to me. But the fact that said wishful thinking is about Bioware's death is disconcerting enough to me. Not the least because Inquisition genuinely did feel sort of... odd. Too much open-world, not enough of the companions, imo. I hope they model DA4 off of Trespasser, because it was singularly the best part of the game for me. (Despite it technically not being part of the game.)
But I think the fear that Anthem's success will negatively effect DA4 carry more weight than its failure shuttering the studio. If Andromeda proved nothing else, it's that EA will push out a game if they've already invested a certain amount of resources in it. Given that DA4's been in development for years now, I imagine they'd rather shove out a half-finished mess and then close the studio. People hate EA and BioWare is a part of EA so you will always have some segment of the population constantly moaning about their games no matter what they do. I think the days of Tripple A RPGS like...Mass Effect or DA 2, are probably looonnng gone. But remember we've had what? 5 years? 6? of technological development between DA Is release and now. And there seem to be a lot of 'big' games out there that have really pushed the envelope in terms of story content in an 'open' world. Everything from Witcher 3 to HZD to Assassin's Creed Oddyssey seem to be getting fairly universal praise and they aren't quite alone. Plus DAI did try and release on two console generations at once which has been a much talked about problem for them. Note that neither Tresspasser or Descent was released on the last generation console and those turned out just fine. Now either with them releasing the game late this gen or for the next generation could solve a lot of these problems plus them learning their lesson plus the long development time I think DA 4 is going to be a very different animal from DA I in terms of side quests and livelieness of the world. DAI not only had the old consoles to deal with, but the Bioware DA team also had to learn Frostbite. So I agree with you, DA4 will probably be more realized than DAI, they'll get into the game more of what they want to get in. There's some empty in Inquisition because they couldn't make things work on the XBox 360/Playstation 3. |
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Post by colfoley on Oct 30, 2018 4:35:39 GMT
People hate EA and BioWare is a part of EA so you will always have some segment of the population constantly moaning about their games no matter what they do. I think the days of Tripple A RPGS like...Mass Effect or DA 2, are probably looonnng gone. But remember we've had what? 5 years? 6? of technological development between DA Is release and now. And there seem to be a lot of 'big' games out there that have really pushed the envelope in terms of story content in an 'open' world. Everything from Witcher 3 to HZD to Assassin's Creed Oddyssey seem to be getting fairly universal praise and they aren't quite alone. Plus DAI did try and release on two console generations at once which has been a much talked about problem for them. Note that neither Tresspasser or Descent was released on the last generation console and those turned out just fine. Now either with them releasing the game late this gen or for the next generation could solve a lot of these problems plus them learning their lesson plus the long development time I think DA 4 is going to be a very different animal from DA I in terms of side quests and livelieness of the world. DAI not only had the old consoles to deal with, but the Bioware DA team also had to learn Frostbite. So I agree with you, DA4 will probably be more realized than DAI, they'll get into the game more of what they want to get in. There's some empty in Inquisition because they couldn't make things work on the XBox 360/Playstation 3. Honestly we should be looking to Andromeda as a more reasonable expectation of what to get for DA 4 then DA I. And I thought the 'side content' in MEA was extremely well done. |
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Post by Fredward on Oct 30, 2018 4:52:25 GMT
Blind, reflexive hatred of EA has reached meme proportions (see: r/gamingcirclejerk). It almost feels like an inflection point but the people who work themselves into an apoplectic fit whenever they hear EA aren't the kind of people who'd be placated by Anthem, regardless of how it turns out. There could probably be an opportunity for some image rehabilitation when it comes to DA4 if EA was interested in that, though I'm still leery about how live elements will turn out.
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