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Post by midnight tea on Dec 2, 2018 19:21:41 GMT
I'm hoping for something on the 4th or the 6th. 👀 What with DA Day and the Game Awards coming up. The sooner the better I'd say
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Post by midnight tea on Dec 2, 2018 19:23:12 GMT
I'm hoping for something on the 4th or the 6th. 👀 What with DA Day and the Game Awards coming up. Yeah those are my guesses, as well as maybe the 12th if the announcement or reveal ties in with the ending of Dragon Age: Deception. Even if we get it earlier than 12th, I wonder if there's going to be some info buried in the comic?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 2, 2018 19:47:06 GMT
Yeah those are my guesses, as well as maybe the 12th if the announcement or reveal ties in with the ending of Dragon Age: Deception. Even if we get it earlier than 12th, I wonder if there's going to be some info buried in the comic? If we do get stuff before the comic, I could see the comic having a bit more since it's not like the new game would be spoiled. I've said it before, but I would love if the final panels of the comic had Dorian using the messaging crystal to call for help and the final panel shows the other crystal being held by a prosthetic left hand thus teasing the return of the Inquisitor.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 2, 2018 19:55:32 GMT
Another couple reasons I don't think the announcement will e too late in the month is first it's the holidays so a lot of people would be busy, but also because if earlier in the month than everyone can revel in the news for a few weeks before things like the alpha and beta of Anthem come out. It would excite people but not overshadow Anthem.
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Post by thats1evildude on Dec 2, 2018 20:15:47 GMT
I've said it before, but I would love if the final panels of the comic had Dorian using the messaging crystal to call for help and the final panel shows the other crystal being held by a prosthetic left hand thus teasing the return of the Inquisitor. Yeah, that ... that ain't happening.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 2, 2018 20:20:17 GMT
I've said it before, but I would love if the final panels of the comic had Dorian using the messaging crystal to call for help and the final panel shows the other crystal being held by a prosthetic left hand thus teasing the return of the Inquisitor. Yeah, that ... that ain't happening. Which part? The specific idea or the Inquisitor returning in general?
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 2, 2018 20:20:36 GMT
I've said it before, but I would love if the final panels of the comic had Dorian using the messaging crystal to call for help and the final panel shows the other crystal being held by a prosthetic left hand thus teasing the return of the Inquisitor. Yeah, that ... that ain't happening. Do you mean the comic’s end, or the return of the Inquisitor?
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Post by thats1evildude on Dec 2, 2018 20:23:29 GMT
The end of the comic signalling the return of the Inquisitor. Doesn't have a snowball's chance in the Ninth Circle of Hell.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 2, 2018 20:27:43 GMT
Got it. About the Inquisitor, it’s sadly a lose-lose situation, which means that they’d get criticized if it’ll be the MC in DA4, or if it won’t, due to how polarizing it was. They have proven they’re willing to ignore the obvious connections and plans they had before (Hawke as Inquisitor), so it won’t be something new if they proceed with a new MC, but then again, the connection to Solas is much bigger and direct. The only way to avoid or lower criticisms would be if DA4 won’t focus on Solas and his quest.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 2, 2018 20:28:44 GMT
The end of the comic signalling the return of the Inquisitor. Doesn't have a snowball's chance in the Ninth Circle of Hell. Ah, okay. Yeah I know it won't happen but just thought it would be a really interesting idea. The game could even literally pick up from that moment with that battle being the first mission.
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Post by Heimdall on Dec 2, 2018 20:31:45 GMT
I think the awards are our best bet, though they may tease on D4 day...
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 2, 2018 20:35:20 GMT
I think the awards are our best bet, though they may tease on D4 day... Possible. Like maybe they tweet a few seconds from the trailer on D4 Day while the full trailer drops at the VGAs. Would that make the announcement a couple days ago a tease for a tease of a tease?
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 2, 2018 20:36:55 GMT
I think the awards are our best bet, though they may tease on D4 day... Agreed. Or they’ll announce the game on the 4th and have a gameplay video on the 6th...but that seems too much optimistic.
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Post by rras1994 on Dec 2, 2018 20:38:30 GMT
Got it. About the Inquisitor, it’s sadly a lose-lose situation, which means that they’d get criticized if it’ll be the MC in DA4, or if it won’t, due to how polarizing it was. They have proven they’re willing to ignore the obvious connections and plans they had before (Hawke as Inquisitor), so it won’t be something new if they proceed with a new MC, but then again, the connection to Solas is much bigger and direct. The only way to avoid or lower criticisms would be if DA4 won’t focus on Solas and his quest. I'm not sure it's as polarising as you think, even on this forum were as extreme fans of Dragon Age probably have more of an idea in their head of the way they think the series should go, the vote in that thread had about double the people not want the Inquisitor as the main protag (56%) compared to those who did want the Inquisitor to return as the main protag (31%). The vast majority said they would play any way as well, with only one vote saying they wouldn't play the game if the Inquisitor wasn't the main Protag. If you read the posts of this forum you'd think that more people felt really really strongly about the Inquisitor being the main protag in this forum but that's not actually the case. A small minority can appear louder trhen we think. I don't think overall, the main consumer base of Dragon Age is hung up on the issue - I've never seen it mentioned when DA is brought up in other gaming forums.
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Post by midnight tea on Dec 2, 2018 20:41:14 GMT
Got it. About the Inquisitor, it’s sadly a lose-lose situation, which means that they’d get criticized if it’ll be the MC in DA4, or if it won’t, due to how polarizing it was. They have proven they’re willing to ignore the obvious connections and plans they had before (Hawke as Inquisitor), so it won’t be something new if they proceed with a new MC, but then again, the connection to Solas is much bigger and direct. The only way to avoid or lower criticisms would be if DA4 won’t focus on Solas and his quest. Which seems quite unlikely, especially with Trespasser leaving things where it did. I mean, who knows how plans have changed in the last 4 years. But I'd say that all the comics they released still make it seem like they're heading in the direction they planned to head: we know that Inquisition still exists, we know our companions are still working with or for Inquisition and we know new people are being found and recruited AND that we're more and more entering the realm of Tevinter. And if Inquisition still exists and functions it'd seem that it's only correct to assume that Inquisitor is still at its helm. Things may change at a time when we start playing the game, but so far they're not straying from what they established in Trespasser.
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Post by midnight tea on Dec 2, 2018 20:47:25 GMT
Got it. About the Inquisitor, it’s sadly a lose-lose situation, which means that they’d get criticized if it’ll be the MC in DA4, or if it won’t, due to how polarizing it was. They have proven they’re willing to ignore the obvious connections and plans they had before (Hawke as Inquisitor), so it won’t be something new if they proceed with a new MC, but then again, the connection to Solas is much bigger and direct. The only way to avoid or lower criticisms would be if DA4 won’t focus on Solas and his quest. I'm not sure it's as polarising as you think, even on this forum were as extreme fans of Dragon Age probably have more of an idea in their head of the way they think the series should go, the vote in that thread had about double the people not want the Inquisitor as the main protag (56%) compared to those who did want the Inquisitor to return as the main protag (31%). The vast majority said they would play any way as well, with only one vote saying they wouldn't play the game if the Inquisitor wasn't the main Protag. If you read the posts of this forum you'd think that more people felt really really strongly about the Inquisitor being the main protag in this forum but that's not actually the case. A small minority can appear louder trhen we think. I don't think overall, the main consumer base of Dragon Age is hung up on the issue - I've never seen it mentioned when DA is brought up in other gaming forums. I'd caution against gauging things on a small sample size and guessing what will Bioware do based on that - I remember one ardent HoF fan telling us at one point that their internal polls have shown that over 3/4th of people want HOF back... and we know Bioware's thoughts on that. The story points where it does and does so very overtly. I don't necessarily think that it means that Inquisitor will come back as the main protag - but the main protagonist ain't the only viable way they can be back and play a vital role in the story.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 2, 2018 20:50:36 GMT
Got it. About the Inquisitor, it’s sadly a lose-lose situation, which means that they’d get criticized if it’ll be the MC in DA4, or if it won’t, due to how polarizing it was. They have proven they’re willing to ignore the obvious connections and plans they had before (Hawke as Inquisitor), so it won’t be something new if they proceed with a new MC, but then again, the connection to Solas is much bigger and direct. The only way to avoid or lower criticisms would be if DA4 won’t focus on Solas and his quest. Which seems quite unlikely, especially with Trespasser leaving things where it did. I mean, who knows how plans have changed in the last 4 years. But I'd say that all the comics they released still make it seem like they're heading in the direction they planned to head: we know that Inquisition still exists, we know our companions are still working with or for Inquisition and we know new people are being found and recruited AND that we're more and more entering the realm of Tevinter. And if Inquisition still exists and functions it'd seem that the only correct to assume that Inquisitor is still at its helm. Things may change at a time when we start playing the game, but so far they're not straying from what they established in Trespasser. The same could be said for DA2, since Legacy was released later on, with a clear intention of connecting Corypheus and Hawke. I don’t personally care one way or another, but I’d not hold much expectations on this issue, since both outcome are still quite possible. Also, having a different MC in DA4, while addressing different plots then Solas or Inquisition related ones, and leaving them for later, might work with keeping their plans as they are. @ras1994: With polarizing, I mean that a lot disliked the Inquisitor and a lot liked him.
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Post by rras1994 on Dec 2, 2018 20:52:30 GMT
I'm not sure it's as polarising as you think, even on this forum were as extreme fans of Dragon Age probably have more of an idea in their head of the way they think the series should go, the vote in that thread had about double the people not want the Inquisitor as the main protag (56%) compared to those who did want the Inquisitor to return as the main protag (31%). The vast majority said they would play any way as well, with only one vote saying they wouldn't play the game if the Inquisitor wasn't the main Protag. If you read the posts of this forum you'd think that more people felt really really strongly about the Inquisitor being the main protag in this forum but that's not actually the case. A small minority can appear louder trhen we think. I don't think overall, the main consumer base of Dragon Age is hung up on the issue - I've never seen it mentioned when DA is brought up in other gaming forums. I'd caution against gauging things on a small sample size and guessing what will Bioware do based on that - I remember one ardent HoF fan telling us at one point that their internal polls have shown that over 3/4th of people they asked to want HOF back... and we know Bioware's thoughts on that. The story points where it does. I don't necessarily think that it means that Inquisitor will come back as the main protag - but the main protagonist ain't the only viable way they can be back and play a vital role in the story. I disagree with you on where the story points since they said they needed someone that Solas doesn't know.
My point was I haven't seen this discussion come up elsewhere - it really seems only important in this forum and even the posts on this forum don't actually seem to align with what the poll on this forum says, which that most don't want the Inquisitor back as Protag but the vast majority either side will buy the game regardless. If other places aren't discussing it and the place were it is being discussed has the majority still willing to buy the game, I don't think it's as big an issue as some would suggest?
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Post by midnight tea on Dec 2, 2018 20:53:07 GMT
Which seems quite unlikely, especially with Trespasser leaving things where it did. I mean, who knows how plans have changed in the last 4 years. But I'd say that all the comics they released still make it seem like they're heading in the direction they planned to head: we know that Inquisition still exists, we know our companions are still working with or for Inquisition and we know new people are being found and recruited AND that we're more and more entering the realm of Tevinter. And if Inquisition still exists and functions it'd seem that the only correct to assume that Inquisitor is still at its helm. Things may change at a time when we start playing the game, but so far they're not straying from what they established in Trespasser. The same could be said for DA2, since Legacy was released later on, with a clear intention of connecting Corypheus and Hawke. And we did get Hawke in DAI and both Hawke and VArric dealing with the reality of them being responsible for releasing Cory, didn't we?
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Post by rras1994 on Dec 2, 2018 20:56:26 GMT
Which seems quite unlikely, especially with Trespasser leaving things where it did. I mean, who knows how plans have changed in the last 4 years. But I'd say that all the comics they released still make it seem like they're heading in the direction they planned to head: we know that Inquisition still exists, we know our companions are still working with or for Inquisition and we know new people are being found and recruited AND that we're more and more entering the realm of Tevinter. And if Inquisition still exists and functions it'd seem that the only correct to assume that Inquisitor is still at its helm. Things may change at a time when we start playing the game, but so far they're not straying from what they established in Trespasser. The same could be said for DA2, since Legacy was released later on, with a clear intention of connecting Corypheus and Hawke. I don’t personally care one way or another, but I’d not hold much expectations on this issue, since both outcome are still quite possible. Also, having a different MC in DA4, while addressing different plots then Solas or Inquisition related ones, and leaving them for later, might work with keeping their plans as they are. @ras1994: With polarizing, I mean that a lot disliked the Inquisitor and a lot liked him. Oh you meant the character was polarising rather then the issue whether or who should be the protag? Yeah, I can kinda understand that, I have seen a common complaint of the Inquisitor being a bit bland, though I'm not sure how big a proportion of people that would be. Personally I love all my protags and have loved all their stories which is kinda why I want a new one - I'm happy how my Inky ended and want a new protag to shape again with new problems and baggage to try out - and I'll probably put them through suffering and pain like my other protags too
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 2, 2018 21:00:17 GMT
The same could be said for DA2, since Legacy was released later on, with a clear intention of connecting Corypheus and Hawke. And we did get Hawke in DAI and both Hawke and VArric dealing with the reality of them being responsible for releasing Cory, didn't we Oh, he can obviously appear in such a way, and not as a MC, as you mentioned in another post. My argument isn’t mostly about the Inquisitor returning as a MC.
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Post by midnight tea on Dec 2, 2018 21:00:44 GMT
I'd caution against gauging things on a small sample size and guessing what will Bioware do based on that - I remember one ardent HoF fan telling us at one point that their internal polls have shown that over 3/4th of people they asked to want HOF back... and we know Bioware's thoughts on that. The story points where it does. I don't necessarily think that it means that Inquisitor will come back as the main protag - but the main protagonist ain't the only viable way they can be back and play a vital role in the story. I disagree with you on where the story points since they said they needed someone that Solas doesn't know. It's the Inquisitor that decides to find/recruit people that Solas doesn't know and focusing on Tevinter. I don't know how much more clear they could be as to who remains the leader of the whole endeavor of doing something about Solas.
Well, I do remember some external poll showing that at least 70-75% of people want Inquisitor back at some capacity. Either way, small polls are really not a way to measure such things - and I'm fairly sure that most players don't really care and will be like 'who?' when Inquisitor shows up. Same with Solas. Or Dorian. It's been 4 years. They're going to have to re-introduce some stuff and characters anyhow.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 2, 2018 21:05:48 GMT
Got it. About the Inquisitor, it’s sadly a lose-lose situation, which means that they’d get criticized if it’ll be the MC in DA4, or if it won’t, due to how polarizing it was. They have proven they’re willing to ignore the obvious connections and plans they had before (Hawke as Inquisitor), so it won’t be something new if they proceed with a new MC, but then again, the connection to Solas is much bigger and direct. The only way to avoid or lower criticisms would be if DA4 won’t focus on Solas and his quest. I'm not sure it's as polarising as you think, even on this forum were as extreme fans of Dragon Age probably have more of an idea in their head of the way they think the series should go, the vote in that thread had about double the people not want the Inquisitor as the main protag (56%) compared to those who did want the Inquisitor to return as the main protag (31%). The vast majority said they would play any way as well, with only one vote saying they wouldn't play the game if the Inquisitor wasn't the main Protag. If you read the posts of this forum you'd think that more people felt really really strongly about the Inquisitor being the main protag in this forum but that's not actually the case. A small minority can appear louder trhen we think. I don't think overall, the main consumer base of Dragon Age is hung up on the issue - I've never seen it mentioned when DA is brought up in other gaming forums. That would be me. Still feel that way too.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 2, 2018 21:05:56 GMT
More then 4 years, since if it’ll be announced it won’t be released at best until the very end of 2019, but more likely 2020/21.
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