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Post by midnight tea on Mar 1, 2017 1:17:34 GMT
Oooo is that their mocap studio? No idea. But it does seem to be a mocap studio  |
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Post by Hrungr on Mar 1, 2017 1:33:37 GMT
Oooo is that their mocap studio? No idea. But it does seem to be a mocap studio It's The Capture Lab at EA Vancouver (Burnaby). |
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Post by Hrungr on Mar 1, 2017 2:00:11 GMT
I mean, I kinda expect at this point that they are actually working on DA4 beyond just preproduction stuff. I mean, even if they don't have all the companion stories and dialogue written (As it seems like they don't have a full writer's pit) I imagine they could still have some programmers prototyping changes to the battle system and artists building assets they know will be in with the amount of preproduction they've done. Except for the last part, about art assets, everything you described counts as preproduction. Prototyping is preproduction. Engine changes to support known changes to game mechanics or improvements to stuff like hair could be preproduction, or at least, a parallel schedule for core platform work, not necessarily allocated to one project. But it wouldn't be impossible for up to 1/3 of the total resources to switch to DA4. I don't think it would be more of that, since Secret IP is a 1.0 launch, which have their own special challenges. Plus, even though 1/3 of the resources may start on DA4, they could get yanked off to work on Secret IP if it runs into problems. I think what's important to most people, and probably some of the most labor intensive stuff, is cutscenes. It would be great if we had a couple of animators and artists that work on cutscenes to tweet about their progress. Not sure if that stuff comes early or late in production, but until they even start it, I don't think it matters that much whether the whole project is in production or not. For cutscenes, I imagine they're not done until later in production. You have to know what people are saying, where they are saying it, what quest it relates to, potential capture work involved, voice work, etc (they're expensive). And before they even start, I imagine they'll wait as long as they can to make sure (or as sure as possible) the scene is going to wind up in the final game (and not cut) before pouring resources into creating it. |
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Post by midnight tea on Mar 1, 2017 2:08:31 GMT
Except for the last part, about art assets, everything you described counts as preproduction. Prototyping is preproduction. Engine changes to support known changes to game mechanics or improvements to stuff like hair could be preproduction, or at least, a parallel schedule for core platform work, not necessarily allocated to one project. But it wouldn't be impossible for up to 1/3 of the total resources to switch to DA4. I don't think it would be more of that, since Secret IP is a 1.0 launch, which have their own special challenges. Plus, even though 1/3 of the resources may start on DA4, they could get yanked off to work on Secret IP if it runs into problems. I think what's important to most people, and probably some of the most labor intensive stuff, is cutscenes. It would be great if we had a couple of animators and artists that work on cutscenes to tweet about their progress. Not sure if that stuff comes early or late in production, but until they even start it, I don't think it matters that much whether the whole project is in production or not. For cutscenes, I imagine they're not done until later in production. You have to know what people are saying, where they are saying it, what quest it relates to, potential capture work involved, voice work, etc (they're expensive). And before they even start, I imagine they'll wait as long as they can to make sure (or as sure as possible) the scene is going to wind up in the final game (and not cut) before pouring resources into creating it. There's no way of saying what they're recording now - perhaps some of the stuff is either done or at a stage where preliminary scenes can be constructed. They could also be recording footage for new animations, be it for combat or some basic body language stuff and generic expressions that could be used later in cutscenes. A lot of animations in cutscenes in Inquisition or earlier games weren't individually crafted and staged, but used pre-recorded animations after all. |
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Post by Hrungr on Mar 1, 2017 2:12:29 GMT
For cutscenes, I imagine they're not done until later in production. You have to know what people are saying, where they are saying it, what quest it relates to, potential capture work involved, voice work, etc (they're expensive). And before they even start, I imagine they'll wait as long as they can to make sure (or as sure as possible) the scene is going to wind up in the final game (and not cut) before pouring resources into creating it. There's no way of saying what they're recording now - perhaps some of the stuff is either done or at a stage where preliminary scenes can be constructed. They could also be recording footage for new animations, be it for combat or some basic body language stuff and generic expressions that could be used later in cutscenes. Since John was just down there for the day, my guess is he was sitting in on a session for MEA or Secret IP. Probably getting his head around some of the new capture tech. You can see 2 people crouching behind cover in that shot, so my guess is MEA. |
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Post by midnight tea on Mar 1, 2017 2:32:18 GMT
There's no way of saying what they're recording now - perhaps some of the stuff is either done or at a stage where preliminary scenes can be constructed. They could also be recording footage for new animations, be it for combat or some basic body language stuff and generic expressions that could be used later in cutscenes. Since John was just down there for the day, my guess is he was sitting in on a session for MEA or Secret IP. Probably getting his head around some of the new capture tech. You can see 2 people crouching behind cover in that shot, so my guess is MEA. The later tweet suggests that it's one of multiple trips Epler took, and the one before was actually longer than the one during which the picture was taken. Now I don't know much about gamedev, but multiple trips probably means more than getting familiar with tech. People crouching also can't really tell us much about the scene in question - it could be taking cover in MEA, but it looks more like two people are observing something from some secure spot. Could be scouts in Andromeda, or those could be spies in Thedas or whatever else they're brewing for Secret IP. May even be something unrelated to spying, merely two people witnessing some sort of event. |
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Mar 1, 2017 2:33:07 GMT
Sheryl Chee @sherylchee.@patrickweekes GOOD TALK. #scheming Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesI thought so too!  Hmmmmm. I wonder if this is Solas-related. |
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Post by Hrungr on Mar 1, 2017 2:58:39 GMT
Since John was just down there for the day, my guess is he was sitting in on a session for MEA or Secret IP. Probably getting his head around some of the new capture tech. You can see 2 people crouching behind cover in that shot, so my guess is MEA. The later tweet suggests that it's one of multiple trips Epler took, and the one before was actually longer than the one during which the picture was taken. Now I don't know much about gamedev, but multiple trips probably means more than getting familiar with tech. People crouching also can't really tell us much about the scene in question - it could be taking cover in MEA, but it looks more like two people are observing something from some secure spot. Could be scouts in Andromeda, or those could be spies in Thedas or whatever else they're brewing for Secret IP. May even be something unrelated to spying, merely two people witnessing some sort of event. His prior trips could have been referring to the work on DAI (where we do know he was down there then). That said, it doesn't mean they couldn't be prototyping something at the studio. But I think it's a safe bet they're not going to be shooting DA4 cutscenes before there was even a Writers' Pit put together. We didn't even start seeing mocap tweets from MEA until the 3rd year of its development. |
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Post by Heimdall on Mar 1, 2017 5:12:12 GMT
I think what's important to most people, and probably some of the most labor intensive stuff, is cutscenes. It would be great if we had a couple of animators and artists that work on cutscenes to tweet about their progress. Not sure if that stuff comes early or late in production, but until they even start it, I don't think it matters that much whether the whole project is in production or not. I would imagine that comes later, as they would require both the writing and all the relevant art assets to be completed. So actually that probably means they do it as they go, through much of development. |
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Post by LukeBarrett on Mar 1, 2017 18:05:29 GMT
The later tweet suggests that it's one of multiple trips Epler took, and the one before was actually longer than the one during which the picture was taken. Now I don't know much about gamedev, but multiple trips probably means more than getting familiar with tech. People crouching also can't really tell us much about the scene in question - it could be taking cover in MEA, but it looks more like two people are observing something from some secure spot. Could be scouts in Andromeda, or those could be spies in Thedas or whatever else they're brewing for Secret IP. May even be something unrelated to spying, merely two people witnessing some sort of event. His prior trips could have been referring to the work on DAI (where we do know he was down there then). That said, it doesn't mean they couldn't be prototyping something at the studio. But I think it's a safe bet they're not going to be shooting DA4 cutscenes before there was even a Writers' Pit put together. We didn't even start seeing mocap tweets from MEA until the 3rd year of its development. If it helps, I'll let you know that I was at that same location for... reasons  ... a couple weeks ago. I greatly prefer the cold of Edmonton to the rain of Vancouver  |
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Post by midnight tea on Mar 1, 2017 18:08:16 GMT
HA!  |
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Post by Hrungr on Mar 1, 2017 18:15:27 GMT
His prior trips could have been referring to the work on DAI (where we do know he was down there then). That said, it doesn't mean they couldn't be prototyping something at the studio. But I think it's a safe bet they're not going to be shooting DA4 cutscenes before there was even a Writers' Pit put together. We didn't even start seeing mocap tweets from MEA until the 3rd year of its development. If it helps, I'll let you know that I was at that same location for... reasons ... a couple weeks ago. Unexpected, but. .. intriguing.s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/c0/f1/5f/c0f15fd2afc06e64c03dab60c3a62584.gif  Fair. |
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Mar 1, 2017 19:37:42 GMT
Except for the last part, about art assets, everything you described counts as preproduction. Prototyping is preproduction. Engine changes to support known changes to game mechanics or improvements to stuff like hair could be preproduction, or at least, a parallel schedule for core platform work, not necessarily allocated to one project. But it wouldn't be impossible for up to 1/3 of the total resources to switch to DA4. I don't think it would be more of that, since Secret IP is a 1.0 launch, which have their own special challenges. Plus, even though 1/3 of the resources may start on DA4, they could get yanked off to work on Secret IP if it runs into problems. I think what's important to most people, and probably some of the most labor intensive stuff, is cutscenes. It would be great if we had a couple of animators and artists that work on cutscenes to tweet about their progress. Not sure if that stuff comes early or late in production, but until they even start it, I don't think it matters that much whether the whole project is in production or not. Well, we do know that John Epler - the main cinematic guy and current Narrative Lead - has tweeted this in October: Much more likely to be for MEA or Secret IP, given the timing, no? |
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Post by midnight tea on Mar 1, 2017 19:48:39 GMT
Epler is the Narrative Presentation Lead (which suggests being responsible for more than just cinematics) for Dragon Age, so it's highly doubtful he'd be working on any other projects. Also - what's been stated above |
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Post by Heimdall on Mar 1, 2017 20:06:46 GMT
Epler is the Narrative Presentation Lead (which suggests being responsible for more than just cinematics) for Dragon Age, so it's highly doubtful he'd be working on any other projects. Also - what's been stated above Then is is probably either some cinematic related stuff for DA4 or he's just getting a handle on the new toys. Well, depending on how much detail they have pinned down for the main story (Which I guess is the only thing they could have pinned down without a full writer's pit), it isn't outside the realm of possibility that they could be working on some cinematics at this point, or at least animation for them. EDIT: Or heck, maybe that long ago rumored tactics game is really in the works and Epler + other leads are working with whatever studio that got farmed out to. |
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Post by thats1evildude on Mar 1, 2017 20:31:55 GMT
I did a random news search for Dragon Age and I spotted an article saying "Dragon Age 4 pushed to 2018." Given what we know, along with the poor writing qualify and the lack of any named sources, I think this qualifies as #fakenews. Just a heads up.
EDIT: Deleting the link because this site doesn't deserve the traffic.
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Post by Hrungr on Mar 1, 2017 21:06:10 GMT
Trevor @trevor1223@mike_Laidlaw this is so true. pbs.twimg.com/media/C529Uf5U8AERtVE.jpg Mike Laidlaw @mike_LaidlawHahahha. Oh that’s crazy. We’d never* do that! (*often) David Gaider@GDC @davidgaider Well, that list is...more or less true.
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Post by Rascoth on Mar 1, 2017 22:02:42 GMT
^ The ones you can't romance are above suspicion. Because they can't just use you, they have to break your heart as well, little shi... *cough* |
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Post by thats1evildude on Mar 1, 2017 22:10:07 GMT
You never go wrong romancing the nice bisexual girl with a non-English accent. They stick with you to the end!
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Post by Nightscrawl on Mar 1, 2017 22:39:33 GMT
Just goes to show that Dorian > all mages.
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Post by Hrungr on Mar 2, 2017 0:04:36 GMT
Mark Darrah @biomarkdarrah
Well @patrickweekes didn't come to a meeting.
Now the story is a tragedy about how the interconnecting block don't fit.
They. Do. Not. Fit.
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I swear I will sneak in tonight and lick your keyboard.
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Thank you.
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@patrickweekes looking at my keyboard, this would either kill you or cure you.
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Mark Darrah @biomarkdarrahI'm formally presenting the most sarcastic deck ever tomorrow. @mike_Laidlaw said I couldn't make it more sarcastic. He was wrong. i.imgur.com/C9gtnEX.gif John Epler @eplerjcis it the sarcastic deck you showed me a while back? Mark Darrah @biomarkdarrahnow more sarcastic John Epler @eplerjcgotta say, with Mike on this one. I'm impressed. Mark Darrah @biomarkdarrahlikely close to peak sarcasm at this point. I think a monocle might be too far... Mike Laidlaw @mike_Laidlaw Too far would be affecting an accent while wearing the monocle. Mike Laidlaw @mike_Laidlaw OR WOULD IT?!? Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesI have a fluffy cat that I can bring in tomorrow, and we can take turns petting it while we talk? for reference: pbs.twimg.com/media/C535j65XEAA-PI2.jpg Mark Darrah @biomarkdarrah i.imgur.com/JFOZZwk.gif John Epler @eplerjc Too far would be introducing musical backing and treating the whole thing like a spoken word album. Mark Darrah @biomarkdarrah
i.imgur.com/b20MdWg.gif Mark Darrah @biomarkdarrah Thinking about it It's not that I have NO boundaries It's more that the biggest boundary is interact at all Once we get over THAT one...
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Post by Nightscrawl on Mar 2, 2017 1:27:30 GMT
1 Seeing conversations like the above makes me realize how boring I am.
2 That keyboard thing is about 10x more disgusting than the whole bit about Mark's teapot.
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Post by blighted on Mar 2, 2017 1:46:42 GMT
I have no idea what is going on but I want it to continue.
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Post by Avejajed on Mar 2, 2017 2:05:28 GMT
They lost me at licking keyboards and sarcasm decks. I never know wtf any of them are talking about but it still sounds amusing.
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