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Post by Hrungr on Jun 25, 2017 16:30:00 GMT
Where does mo cap fit into the production cycle? Isn't pre-production a tad bit early to start doing that? Whatever stage they're at, it'd seem to me that it's been a while since 'pre-production' morphed to something else. They've been on a hiring spree at least since beginning of May, they've been mo-capping since end of last year and their writing team seems to have been working full-time since January. In fact, if I remember correctly, Alexis Kennedy is nearing the end of his writing gig for them. Yeah, it was just a small team (25-30 IIRC) in pre-prod on DA until MEA wrapped up. Now the team is starting to grow and as you say, they're also hiring on top of that. I haven't heard anything to suggest they're running a full team yet though. The majority of DA team (AFAIK) are still on Anthem, so they may be running with a smaller team until that game wraps up. What they could be mocaping though... it could be almost anything I imagine. General Movement/Idling/Combat/Actions animations? The things that aren't plot specific.
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Post by Hrungr on Jun 25, 2017 18:26:12 GMT
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#solavellan #Solas #DragonAgeInquisition #commission #art #illustration @patrickweekes what do you think about the Inquisitor joining Solas? pbs.twimg.com/media/DDKTC_CXUAEmizL.jpgPatrick Weekes @patrickweekes
Absolutely get the appeal, but we wouldn't have been able to support it if we ever did a future game, so it felt wrong to make it an option.
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Post by Hrungr on Jun 25, 2017 18:28:37 GMT
🎭 @ultraviol3ncia I don't understand why some people didn't like Dragon age 2. I mean, it's a fantastic game! I'm in love. Thank you ❤
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#solavellan #Solas #DragonAgeInquisition #commission #art #illustration @patrickweekes what do you think about the Inquisitor joining Solas? Patrick Weekes @patrickweekes
Absolutely get the appeal, but we wouldn't have been able to support it if we ever did a future game, so it felt wrong to make it an option. Smells like plans for Inquisitor!
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Jun 25, 2017 20:35:56 GMT
Whatever stage they're at, it'd seem to me that it's been a while since 'pre-production' morphed to something else. They've been on a hiring spree at least since beginning of May, they've been mo-capping since end of last year and their writing team seems to have been working full-time since January. In fact, if I remember correctly, Alexis Kennedy is nearing the end of his writing gig for them. Yeah, it was just a small team (25-30 IIRC) in pre-prod on DA until MEA wrapped up. Now the team is starting to grow and as you say, they're also hiring on top of that. I haven't heard anything to suggest they're running a full team yet though. The majority of DA team (AFAIK) are still on Anthem, so they may be running with a smaller team until that game wraps up. What they could be mocaping though... it could be almost anything I imagine. General Movement/Idling/Combat/Actions animations? The things that aren't plot specific. Could be for an internal pre-production milestone demo, like for EA bigwigs, show some cutscene or gameplay with animations. But, more likely, I think they have transitioned to production. The hiring spree strongly suggests a green lit project with additional funding. That said, production could be divided into early, mid and late phases, with the bulk of resources for art, environment and level design, the most labor intensive stuff, coming in the mid phase. This might be early production.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Jun 25, 2017 20:39:53 GMT
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#solavellan #Solas #DragonAgeInquisition #commission #art #illustration @patrickweekes what do you think about the Inquisitor joining Solas? Patrick Weekes @patrickweekes
Absolutely get the appeal, but we wouldn't have been able to support it if we ever did a future game, so it felt wrong to make it an option. Smells like plans for Inquisitor! It suggests the opposite to me. If you had the option to join with Solas, and assuming Solas features prominently in DA4, the Inquisitor would have to feature prominently in DA4 also. Without the option, the Inquisitor can be left to the obscurity of history. "Wouldn't have been able to support," might mean couldn't support having the Inquisitor show up as a voiced part again, PC or NPC. But it is confirmation that they thought about the option and decided against it. Many "why didn't they" threads about the lack of the option should be settled by that comment.
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Post by LordGunSmith90 on Jun 25, 2017 21:23:06 GMT
I think we will get official conformation for this game by September, maybe at Pax West.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Jun 25, 2017 21:34:30 GMT
Whatever stage they're at, it'd seem to me that it's been a while since 'pre-production' morphed to something else. They've been on a hiring spree at least since beginning of May, they've been mo-capping since end of last year and their writing team seems to have been working full-time since January. In fact, if I remember correctly, Alexis Kennedy is nearing the end of his writing gig for them. Yeah, it was just a small team (25-30 IIRC) in pre-prod on DA until MEA wrapped up. Now the team is starting to grow and as you say, they're also hiring on top of that. I haven't heard anything to suggest they're running a full team yet though. The majority of DA team (AFAIK) are still on Anthem, so they may be running with a smaller team until that game wraps up. What they could be mocaping though... it could be almost anything I imagine. General Movement/Idling/Combat/Actions animations? The things that aren't plot specific. Maybe they will take this time to come up with new animations for certain things like walking that they've used since DAO and DA2 >.>. I don't think anyone likes the gorilla walk, which looks especially bad on female characters, or males with slighter builds.
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Post by Hrungr on Jun 25, 2017 21:42:38 GMT
I think we will get official conformation for this game by September, maybe at Pax West. Honestly, I wouldn't expect an official announcement until after Anthem's launch. But it is BioWare, so... I expect they'll find some way to add a cryptic hashtag between now and then.
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 25, 2017 21:54:29 GMT
Smells like plans for Inquisitor! It suggests the opposite to me. If you had the option to join with Solas, and assuming Solas features prominently in DA4, the Inquisitor would have to feature prominently in DA4 also. Without the option, the Inquisitor can be left to the obscurity of history. "Wouldn't have been able to support," might mean couldn't support having the Inquisitor show up as a voiced part again, PC or NPC. But it is confirmation that they thought about the option and decided against it. Many "why didn't they" threads about the lack of the option should be settled by that comment. I think the end of Trespasser, paired with this comment, definitely suggests Inquisitor's involvement at some significant capacity. Inquisitor telling Solas that they'd personally either stop him or prove him wrong, saying to the Council (among other things) that they have world to save... again and being shown planning in secret doesn't seem like a behavior or a set up for a character who is prepared to be left to the obscurity of history, or story. If anything, it makes sense that they can't feature Inquisitor at the side of Solas is because it splits the narrative too much. Inquisitor's side is that of modern Thedosians, as the opposition to Solas, so I'd be surprised if they'd let Inky join him. And the whole "we wouldn't have been able to support it if we ever did a future game" sounds more of DA devs continuous attempt to speak of DA4 as if it's merely a hypothetical title (and let's face it, until official announcement, it sort of is...).
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 25, 2017 21:56:49 GMT
I think we will get official conformation for this game by September, maybe at Pax West. Honestly, I wouldn't expect an official announcement until after Anthem's launch. But it is BioWare, so... I expect they'll find some way to add a cryptic hashtag between now and then. Oh I hope they'll start being openly cryptic soon enough T_T
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Post by Lazarillo on Jun 25, 2017 22:11:11 GMT
I think we will get official conformation for this game by September, maybe at Pax West. Honestly, I wouldn't expect an official announcement until after Anthem's launch. I think the reveal that Anthem isn't really a "typical" BW game has a lot of people realizing that they're not going to get the kind of scratching their particular itch needs, and thus are hoping for anything that would indicate the game's coming sooner than later...but unfortunately (being one of those people myself), I think that's mostly just wishful thinking. Oh I hope they'll start being openly cryptic soon enough T_T Isn't "openly cryptic" what they're already being?
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 25, 2017 22:28:24 GMT
Oh I hope they'll start being openly cryptic soon enough T_T Isn't "openly cryptic" what they're already being? Haha, I need more than what they're doing now MOARRRR.
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Aussie Miriam @sagedufraine So I need answers pretty please! Did we ever find out what Maric & Flemeth's secret deal was? @mike_Laidlaw @patrickweekes @davidgaider
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#solavellan #Solas #DragonAgeInquisition #commission #art #illustration @patrickweekes what do you think about the Inquisitor joining Solas? Patrick Weekes @patrickweekes
Absolutely get the appeal, but we wouldn't have been able to support it if we ever did a future game, so it felt wrong to make it an option. Wow, that's a huge response. So, I assume this means no joining Solas in DA4. I am a bit disappointed, but it is not unexpected.
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#solavellan #Solas #DragonAgeInquisition #commission #art #illustration @patrickweekes what do you think about the Inquisitor joining Solas? Patrick Weekes @patrickweekes
Absolutely get the appeal, but we wouldn't have been able to support it if we ever did a future game, so it felt wrong to make it an option. Wow, that's a huge response. So, I assume this means no joining Solas in DA4. I am a bit disappointed, but it is not unexpected. It's not surprising to me, the ending of Trespasser has the protagonist picking two choices... both varying degrees of opposition to Solas. There are no degrees of acceptance.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 16:32:09 GMT
Wow, that's a huge response. So, I assume this means no joining Solas in DA4. I am a bit disappointed, but it is not unexpected. It's not surprising to me, the ending of Trespasser has the protagonist picking two choices... both varying degrees of opposition to Solas. There are no degrees of acceptance. I was hanging my hopes on that promise to provide closure for Solamancer population. I guess, they meant a time-honoured sort of closure for female PCs romances.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jun 26, 2017 16:36:12 GMT
It's not surprising to me, the ending of Trespasser has the protagonist picking two choices... both varying degrees of opposition to Solas. There are no degrees of acceptance. I was hanging my hopes on that promise to provide closure for Solamancer population. I guess, they meant a time-honoured sort of closure for female PCs romances. (guessing by "time-honored sort of closure" you mean a tragic ending to the romance, admittedly I never play female characters in Bioware games) That's possible, though it is also possible that the Quizzy can walk off into the sunset with Solas after he's gone through a redeeming, life-saving character arc.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 16:43:45 GMT
I was hanging my hopes on that promise to provide closure for Solamancer population. I guess, they meant a time-honoured sort of closure for female PCs romances. (guessing by "time-honored sort of closure" you mean a tragic ending to the romance, admittedly I never play female characters in Bioware games) That's possible, though it is also possible that the Quizzy can walk off into the sunset with Solas after he's gone through a redeeming, life-saving character arc. In which case it will still be a time-honoured closure, but for a male PC. The amazing number of minor villains were saved between the sheets.... but the female pc gets big win then, probably the most major win by seduction scenario.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jun 26, 2017 16:47:19 GMT
(guessing by "time-honored sort of closure" you mean a tragic ending to the romance, admittedly I never play female characters in Bioware games) That's possible, though it is also possible that the Quizzy can walk off into the sunset with Solas after he's gone through a redeeming, life-saving character arc. In which case it will still be a time-honoured closure, but for a male PC. The amazing number of minor villains were saved between the sheets.... but the female pc gets big win then, probably the most major win by seduction scenario. Well, I'm all for a "good" romance ending for female protags and the Solas romance. Hopefully, you'll get one. I think Solas is one of Bioware's best/most interesting characters.
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Post by thats1evildude on Jun 26, 2017 17:03:31 GMT
In which case it will still be a time-honoured closure, but for a male PC. The amazing number of minor villains were saved between the sheets.... but the female pc gets big win then, probably the most major win by seduction scenario. Well, I'm all for a "good" romance ending for female protags and the Solas romance. Hopefully, you'll get one. I think Solas is one of Bioware's best/most interesting characters. Ramsay, you want to take this? Hope for the best. Brace for the worst.
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Josiah Renaudin @josiahrenaudin 🚨 PODCAST 🚨 @dragonage guru @mike_Laidlaw joins me to talk creating open worlds, reviews, and Jade Empire. LISTEN: bit.ly/2s9wVZMpbs.twimg.com/media/DDQuNrQVwAAxKzi.jpgOn this week's episode, the creative director of Dragon Age, Mike Laidlaw, joins host Josiah Renaudin to discuss how the team at BioWare creates such massive open worlds. Mike explains the different roles he's played at BioWare, the struggles of even starting a five-year AAA project, what a linear Dragon Age (similar to Uncharted) would look like, how he deals with Dragon Age reviews, and the possibility of a Jade Empire 2.
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