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Post by midnight tea on Dec 13, 2018 23:00:42 GMT
John Epler @eplerjcThis job is always fun. Sometimes, it is very, -very- fun. They must be writting Solas stabing someone on the back. My bet is on DRAGON FLYING!
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 13, 2018 23:05:07 GMT
Characters should be the way they work best. Creating characters just to meet quota is stupid. If you can't make a believable character of that particular combination of whatever, maybe you shouldn't force it in the story. People bitching about representation is... I dunno, how 'bout no characters right there and then just happen to be whatever you are? Look, I don't want to derail the thread again, but it's not about meeting quotas for the sake of quotas so much as it's about not having every character default to straight white cis person, because straight white cis people are not the only people who exist, are definitely not the only ones who play video games (for escapism or otherwise), and it's exhausting being told not to bitch about representation by people who are always represented in everything.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Dec 13, 2018 23:06:34 GMT
They must be writting Solas stabing someone on the back. My bet is on DRAGON FLYING!
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Post by Heimdall on Dec 13, 2018 23:07:44 GMT
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Post by Hrungr on Dec 13, 2018 23:20:46 GMT
Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesIt may not be a GOOD idea per se, but if it gets @eplerjc to respond with a text with just your name THREE TIMES, you know it's an INTERESTING idea.
To be clear, three separate texts. Each with just my name. A single text with "Patrick Patrick Patrick" just means I have stumbled into his fiendish deathtrap and must now pay the price for my hubris. John Epler @eplerjcYou'll notice I never said -no-. [HASH]DAT
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Post by bshep on Dec 13, 2018 23:28:49 GMT
Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesIt may not be a GOOD idea per se, but if it gets @eplerjc to respond with a text with just your name THREE TIMES, you know it's an INTERESTING idea.
To be clear, three separate texts. Each with just my name. A single text with "Patrick Patrick Patrick" just means I have stumbled into his fiendish deathtrap and must now pay the price for my hubris. John Epler @eplerjcYou'll notice I never said -no-. Didn't i tell you?
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Post by therevanchist25 on Dec 14, 2018 0:48:24 GMT
Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesIt may not be a GOOD idea per se, but if it gets @eplerjc to respond with a text with just your name THREE TIMES, you know it's an INTERESTING idea.
To be clear, three separate texts. Each with just my name. A single text with "Patrick Patrick Patrick" just means I have stumbled into his fiendish deathtrap and must now pay the price for my hubris. John Epler @eplerjcYou'll notice I never said -no-. Didn't i tell you?
#backstabbingegg Who else could he possibly back stab? he's already back stabbed the Inquisitor, and by extension the player.
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 14, 2018 0:57:47 GMT
I don't think this quite counts as hashtag DAT, but... 👭 Autumn Witch 🎄 @dragon_Age_FansBioware: here’s a 40 second clip and an image Fans for the next 3-5 years: (src - t.co/sbIaFtMyf2)edit: and the original source is here
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Post by midnight tea on Dec 14, 2018 1:14:32 GMT
I don't think this quite counts as hashtag DAT, but... 👭 Autumn Witch 🎄 @dragon_Age_FansBioware: here’s a 40 second clip and an image Fans for the next 3-5 years: (src - t.co/sbIaFtMyf2)edit: and the original source is here... As if anybody has any doubts that this was exactly what they were aiming at Also - can I just say, after some time has passed, that the DA4 teaser reception appears to have been pretty much unanimously positive?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 1:22:46 GMT
I don't think this quite counts as hashtag DAT, but... 👭 Autumn Witch 🎄 @dragon_Age_FansBioware: here’s a 40 second clip and an image Fans for the next 3-5 years: (src - t.co/sbIaFtMyf2)edit: and the original source is hereLawl, I made one of those when Trespasser came out, tho now I see a bunch of things wrong with it.
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Post by Zemgus on Dec 14, 2018 5:17:17 GMT
I'm mostly baffled by the people who say: - "Colour, gender, orientation shouldn't be a factor in whether you like a game or not!" as an argument in support of not having POC, well-written women who are not just there as eye candy, or LGBT+ representation in games. Can they not see how hypocritical that statement is? - "I use games to escape the real world, which sucks!" So do we all, my friend, so do we all. And by "we," I mean people who are not straight, white, and male as well as those who are. As John Epler stated in one of his replies, inclusion of certain groups does not mean exclusion of others.
I just can't help but wonder why is this so important to spend hours on end discussing it.
People in real life happen to be a wide variety of races. They also happen to have a fairly wide spectrum of what they like doing (or not doing, let's face it) in the bedroom.
Characters should be the way they work best. Creating characters just to meet quota is stupid. If you can't make a believable character of that particular combination of whatever, maybe you shouldn't force it in the story. People bitching about representation is... I dunno, how 'bout no characters right there and then just happen to be whatever you are?
It's shit, and it's causing at least me (and I imagine I wouldn't be alone) to think of things differently than I would say two years ago.
Stupid agendas do not fight bigots. They create them.
End of rant.
I have to agree with this 100% It's like the difference between Mae and Krem: one is well written and feels like part of the world - the other was cool until they turned into a lecture/walking wikipedia page.
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Post by therevanchist25 on Dec 14, 2018 6:28:57 GMT
I would post a giant WALL OF TEXT giving my 2 cents about this...but that would derail the Twitter thread...I left my rant over in the "Unpopular Opinions" thread in off topic...
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 14, 2018 6:42:50 GMT
Look, I don't want to derail the thread again, but it's not about meeting quotas for the sake of quotas so much as it's about not having every character default to straight white cis person, because straight white cis people are not the only people who exist, are definitely not the only ones who play video games (for escapism or otherwise), and it's exhausting being told not to bitch about representation by people who are always represented in everything. So is it the fact that the devs are choosing to showcase a "straight white cis male" in the promos that bothers you, or the idea that the default character isn't immediately who you want from the start? Regardless somebody's going to be disappointed either way. Spoiler'd for OT... Wut? I never said a thing about the player character or promos at all.
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Post by Hrungr on Dec 14, 2018 6:46:44 GMT
Again, can I ask that you take this conversation to a new thread. Thanks!
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Post by jjdxb on Dec 14, 2018 8:44:55 GMT
My bet is on DRAGON FLYING!
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Post by Serza on Dec 14, 2018 8:47:03 GMT
Characters should be the way they work best. Creating characters just to meet quota is stupid. If you can't make a believable character of that particular combination of whatever, maybe you shouldn't force it in the story. People bitching about representation is... I dunno, how 'bout no characters right there and then just happen to be whatever you are? Look, I don't want to derail the thread again, but it's not about meeting quotas for the sake of quotas so much as it's about not having every character default to straight white cis person, because straight white cis people are not the only people who exist, are definitely not the only ones who play video games (for escapism or otherwise), and it's exhausting being told not to bitch about representation by people who are always represented in everything.
Are you trying to make me into something I'm not?
Don't think you read that properly.
Fortunately we seem to be done here.
I just can't help but wonder why is this so important to spend hours on end discussing it.
People in real life happen to be a wide variety of races. They also happen to have a fairly wide spectrum of what they like doing (or not doing, let's face it) in the bedroom.
Characters should be the way they work best. Creating characters just to meet quota is stupid. If you can't make a believable character of that particular combination of whatever, maybe you shouldn't force it in the story. People bitching about representation is... I dunno, how 'bout no characters right there and then just happen to be whatever you are?
It's shit, and it's causing at least me (and I imagine I wouldn't be alone) to think of things differently than I would say two years ago.
Stupid agendas do not fight bigots. They create them.
End of rant.
I have to agree with this 100% It's like the difference between Mae and Krem: one is well written and feels like part of the world - the other was cool until they turned into a lecture/walking wikipedia page.
Uh-huh...? I ain't sure, but whatever you say.
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Post by bshep on Dec 14, 2018 9:42:45 GMT
Again, can I ask that you take this conversation to a new thread. Thanks! Just to remind people one more time.
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Post by Hrungr on Dec 14, 2018 15:30:15 GMT
sparklingwinefather @sprklngwinefthrApologies for being off topic, but I was wondering if I could ask you a question about healing magic in Dragon Age if you aren’t too busy Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesThat lore MUST be flexible enough to change based on what our folks in gameplay want to do game-to-game to make the best player experience, so I can give general info, but rarely a solid written in stone. That said, fire away. sparklingwinefather @sprklngwinefthrUnderstandable. I was wondering if healing magic is fully restorative. For example, if someone broke a bone and it was healed by magic would it heal completely or could the person still experience residual pain likes aches? Thanks for your time Patrick! Maybe a better example would be someone with a bad knee, in the real world a knee can be fixed but still experience knee pains after a surgery, would healing magic mean the person is healed so completely that even aches and pains are prevented in the future? Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesAs a guess: a normal mage using healing magic could do something close to modern ER-room surgery. Wounds, simple diseases/conditions. Spirit-aided healer like Wynne could do near-miraculous healing like top-of-the line specialist surgery. Removing tumors, bypass surgery. Spirit healer would leave fewer scars and less pain, but the once broken shoulder that aches when it rains could well still be a thing. (As it is for me in real life.) [HASH]DAT
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Post by Sifr on Dec 14, 2018 16:33:32 GMT
I don't think this quite counts as hashtag DAT, but... 👭 Autumn Witch 🎄 @dragon_Age_FansBioware: here’s a 40 second clip and an image Fans for the next 3-5 years: (src - t.co/sbIaFtMyf2)edit: and the original source is hereAnyone else immediately think of the Swan Lockdown Map from Lost when they saw this?
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Post by Hrungr on Dec 14, 2018 18:28:24 GMT
Cori Nicole @genevraelI have had the same chair since midway through Jade Empire. Almost 15 years. I've spent more time with this chair than any human being. It is the longest relationship of my life. In other news, I'm dealing really well with plans for the office move. ladyiolanthe ladyiolantheIs that the big move downtown or another of the seemingly frequent office shuffles as people get moved to different projects/teams? Either way, you should definitely smuggle your chair. 🙂 Cori Nicole @genevraelThe big move downtown. [HASH]DAT
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Post by Hrungr on Dec 14, 2018 18:51:15 GMT
John Epler @eplerjc And now for my favourite part of my job, 'expense submission'.
[HASH]DAT
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Dec 14, 2018 19:04:17 GMT
John Epler @eplerjcAnd now for my favourite part of my job, 'expense submission'. Some EA exec: "Why are there 97 bottles of Writer's Tears on this list?!?"
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Post by midnight tea on Dec 14, 2018 19:09:48 GMT
Cori Nicole @genevraelI have had the same chair since midway through Jade Empire. Almost 15 years. I've spent more time with this chair than any human being. It is the longest relationship of my life. In other news, I'm dealing really well with plans for the office move. ladyiolanthe ladyiolanthe Is that the big move downtown or another of the seemingly frequent office shuffles as people get moved to different projects/teams? Either way, you should definitely smuggle your chair. 🙂 Cori Nicole @genevraelThe big move downtown. Seems to make sense for them to move the bulk of the studio during X-mas break.
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Post by Bondari the Reloader on Dec 14, 2018 19:47:34 GMT
sparklingwinefather @sprklngwinefthrApologies for being off topic, but I was wondering if I could ask you a question about healing magic in Dragon Age if you aren’t too busy Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesThat lore MUST be flexible enough to change based on what our folks in gameplay want to do game-to-game to make the best player experience, so I can give general info, but rarely a solid written in stone. That said, fire away. sparklingwinefather @sprklngwinefthrUnderstandable. I was wondering if healing magic is fully restorative. For example, if someone broke a bone and it was healed by magic would it heal completely or could the person still experience residual pain likes aches? Thanks for your time Patrick! Maybe a better example would be someone with a bad knee, in the real world a knee can be fixed but still experience knee pains after a surgery, would healing magic mean the person is healed so completely that even aches and pains are prevented in the future? Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesAs a guess: a normal mage using healing magic could do something close to modern ER-room surgery. Wounds, simple diseases/conditions. Spirit-aided healer like Wynne could do near-miraculous healing like top-of-the line specialist surgery. Removing tumors, bypass surgery. Spirit healer would leave fewer scars and less pain, but the once broken shoulder that aches when it rains could well still be a thing. (As it is for me in real life.) Cool explanation of lore, but his first response has me confused (and slightly hopeful?). Healing magic essentially didn't exist in Inquisition after being present in the first two games, but if their decision on whether or not to include it varies game-to-game, it makes me wonder if they might bring it back. Patrick seems to be implying that spirit healers still exist in the lore, so would they maybe bring it back as a specialization only? I'd be fine with either option, I just want to play a healer again.
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