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Post by midnight tea on Nov 29, 2016 5:10:32 GMT
Well, we do know from interview with Alexis Kennedy that early work's on a project he'd be working on (... very likely DA4) is done - however he will start in January and will be involved for 6+ months. Judging from what devs said before, Bioware writers are more intrinsic to game production than just creating a script at the start of the project, so we can't say what stage they're now and what exactly Kennedy will be writing... a companion or major NPC is on the table though. I have no idea whatsoever how such writing works, but I assume that it's done during earlier stages and adjusted along the way. What we can safely assume though is that when majority of BW team will start working on DA4, it'll likely tak less time than DAI. I mean, the tech is there, honed by further work on MEA and whatever they've done for Secret IP now AND they don't have to bother with designing on 5 platforms at once.... We just don't know how Secret IP will factor in, but that game seems... well, if not almost done, then mostly built already. The question I was trying to raise (and failing obviously... ) was what would the Dev team be working on if they weren't pulled to work on ME:A. Which they've been doing for some time now. Would they have all been working on the Secret IP or split between that and DA4? Obviously, we may never find out, so it more just wondering out loud... TBH I'm not entirely sure if it matters. I they thought that it'd delay the project (well, we don't know that, but perhaps we can assume that with 3 games baking in the oven they might have tightened their schedule) they likely wouldn't be allocating dev power from other projects to MEA team (apparently it worked? Didn't ehlien or Blair mentioned something about them finishing ahead of schedule?). Perhaps we can also assume that the experience gained while working on MEA will directly translate into faster/more efficient work on sIP or DA4, that with keeping the team up-to-date with development on Frostbite or already working between transferring/modifying modules and assets?
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Nov 29, 2016 10:03:13 GMT
Damn, it's been more than two years now since DA:I and nothing at all about DA4... Am I the only one hoping that they are secretly working hard on DA4 and that in a year or so from now they will be like and we will be able to buy the game a month or two later?
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Post by eriador117 on Nov 29, 2016 10:39:52 GMT
Damn, it's been more than two years now since DA:I and nothing at all about DA4... Am I the only one hoping that they are secretly working hard on DA4 and that in a year or so from now they will be like and we will be able to buy the game a month or two later? Oh, wouldn't that be good?
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Post by Rascoth on Nov 29, 2016 12:56:18 GMT
Damn, it's been more than two years now since DA:I and nothing at all about DA4... Am I the only one hoping that they are secretly working hard on DA4 and that in a year or so from now they will be like and we will be able to buy the game a month or two later? To tell the truth, I think this may happen... but to Secret IP. Doubt we're getting DA4 before it.
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Post by Heimdall on Nov 29, 2016 13:43:02 GMT
Damn, it's been more than two years now since DA:I and nothing at all about DA4... Am I the only one hoping that they are secretly working hard on DA4 and that in a year or so from now they will be like and we will be able to buy the game a month or two later? That does seem to be strategy their marketing is going for now Still... probably not until late 2018.
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Nov 29, 2016 14:16:55 GMT
Damn, it's been more than two years now since DA:I and nothing at all about DA4... Am I the only one hoping that they are secretly working hard on DA4 and that in a year or so from now they will be like and we will be able to buy the game a month or two later? Might be more like six months later, but yeah.
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Post by phoray on Nov 29, 2016 14:43:31 GMT
^^^^^ Was just about to go find that comment about 6 months. 2017 Summer Announcement for Christmas 2017 That's my hope.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Nov 29, 2016 19:39:39 GMT
Almost certainly Secret IP. Though -- given the comment to the "CEO" that Secret IP was more done than expected ... that theory may not hold water. But that begs bigger questions as well. How can something that is theoretically short-staffed be further along than expected? Is the scope of Secret IP very, very modest? Or is the "more done" just a very early milestone? Like, it's fully storyboarded, but not a scrap of production code or art asset has been done yet.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Nov 29, 2016 19:42:53 GMT
Do you guys really want news about DA4 now? Why? Don't you want them to take their time and really do it well? Not to mention avoid overhyping it?
Everyone keeps looking at the historical 2 year duration for the next installment and getting impatient, but I'd rather they took 3 years to really break some new ground and do the story justice. And the timer isn't going to start until January 2017 anyway, due to most of the team working on MEA and as suggested by Alexis Kennedy's contract.
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Post by midnight tea on Nov 29, 2016 19:48:28 GMT
Do you guys really want news about DA4 now? Why? Don't you want them to take their time and really do it well? Not to mention avoid overhyping it? Everyone keeps looking at the historical 2 year duration for the next installment and getting impatient, but I'd rather they took 3 years to really break some new ground and do the story justice. And the timer isn't going to start until January 2017 anyway, due to most of the team working on MEA and as suggested by Alexis Kennedy's contract. I think it's more a matter of "throw us a bone, Bioware!". Even if we're comfortably confident that they're working on next game, it's unsurprising that people who like the franchise crave something new. It doesn't even have to be game info - just something DA-related with which we can have fun with, both with searching for new (story-wise or game-wise) information, speculation, fan creations and so on. We do know there's comic book coming... but it's half a year from now :/
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Nov 29, 2016 19:59:20 GMT
Do you guys really want news about DA4 now? Why? Don't you want them to take their time and really do it well? Not to mention avoid overhyping it? Everyone keeps looking at the historical 2 year duration for the next installment and getting impatient, but I'd rather they took 3 years to really break some new ground and do the story justice. And the timer isn't going to start until January 2017 anyway, due to most of the team working on MEA and as suggested by Alexis Kennedy's contract. I think it's more a matter of "throw us some bone, Bioware!". Even if we're comfortably confident that they'e working on next game, it's unsurprising people who like the franchise crave something new. It doesn't even have to be game info - just something DA-related with which we can have fun with, both with searching for new (story-wise or game-wise) information, speculation, fan creations and so on. We do know there's comic book coming... but it's half a year from now :/ Ah, I see. Some kind of mid-life kicker. That would be great and totally a win-win, since it keeps the fandom happy without hyping DA4 at all. Though, I bet they know what fandoms do. Give 'em an inch and they'll want a mile ... It will take about 0.13 microseconds before someone posts on Reddit, "Y u no work on DA4 2 make dis crap?!"
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Post by Hrungr on Nov 29, 2016 20:04:03 GMT
Almost certainly Secret IP. Though -- given the comment to the "CEO" that Secret IP was more done than expected ... that theory may not hold water. But that begs bigger questions as well. How can something that is theoretically short-staffed be further along than expected? Is the scope of Secret IP very, very modest? Or is the "more done" just a very early milestone? Like, it's fully storyboarded, but not a scrap of production code or art asset has been done yet. The Secret IP has been in the works for a long time now. We knew they were working on it back in 2012 and we've seen concept video back in E3 2014. So I could conceivably see this game being out by late 2017/early 2018 (if that makes more sense timing-wise). But yeah, I don't expect to see DA4 until late 2019, if they plan on putting in ~2.5 or so years of full production. DAI for example had 3 years full production, 1 year pre-production.
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Post by midnight tea on Nov 29, 2016 20:10:29 GMT
Almost certainly Secret IP. Though -- given the comment to the "CEO" that Secret IP was more done than expected ... that theory may not hold water. But that begs bigger questions as well. How can something that is theoretically short-staffed be further along than expected? Is the scope of Secret IP very, very modest? Or is the "more done" just a very early milestone? Like, it's fully storyboarded, but not a scrap of production code or art asset has been done yet. The Secret IP has been in the works for a long time now. We knew they were working on it back in 2012 and we've seen concept video back in E3 2014. So I could conceivably see this game being out by late 2017/early 2018 (if that makes more sense timing-wise). But yeah, I don't expect to see DA4 until late 2019, if they plan on putting in ~2.5 or so years of full production. DAI for example had 3 years full production, 1 year pre-production. True. But a lot of that time was spent converting and building new modules for Frostbite and dealing with designing game on 5 platforms, 2 of which were old and tricky.
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Post by thats1evildude on Nov 29, 2016 20:20:05 GMT
I think it's more a matter of "throw us some bone, Bioware!". To clarify, it's "throw us a bone." "Throw us some bone" has other connotations.
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Post by midnight tea on Nov 29, 2016 20:23:25 GMT
I think it's more a matter of "throw us some bone, Bioware!". To clarify, it's "throw us a bone." "Throw us some bone" has other connotations. LAWL, fixed. ... though at least it seems to have come across as it was intended
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Post by phoray on Nov 29, 2016 20:35:22 GMT
Do you guys really want news about DA4 now? Why? Don't you want them to take their time and really do it well? Not to mention avoid overhyping it? Everyone keeps looking at the historical 2 year duration for the next installment and getting impatient, but I'd rather they took 3 years to really break some new ground and do the story justice. And the timer isn't going to start until January 2017 anyway, due to most of the team working on MEA and as suggested by Alexis Kennedy's contract. 1. I was under the impression there are 2-3 locations of Bioware. And even if one location is helping another location, not ALL of the Dragon Age group are going to completely stop what they're doing to help Adromeda. 2. I have yet to see anything but speculation about this Secret IP, and until there is more than one tweeted question (posted over a year ago?) I do not believe in it's existence. I DO believe in the existence of a DA4, however. 3. I have read very good arguments that the next game would go a bit faster because they have the Frostbite Engine figured out and running well. 4. I have read very good arguments that the story is already pretty much written for DA4. My assumptions of all the above are that they are working on DA4 at a moderate pace and considering how much I liked DA2, despite everyone's misplaced hatred of it, DA4 being released in early 2018, or at the latest, Summer 2018 would not alarm me as I was tongue in cheek about a Christmas 2017 release. That's 3.5 years after release of base Inquisition, and 2.5 years after Trespasser. DA2 got 18 months, DAI got 3 ish with all the work of a NEW engine being broke in.
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Post by midnight tea on Nov 29, 2016 20:55:21 GMT
2. I have yet to see anything but speculation about this Secret IP, and until there is more than one tweeted question (posted over a year ago?) I do not believe in it's existence. But... there's an entire Secret IP Twitter Thread It existed on original forum and exists here now. There's more stuff tweeted about it than currently is of Dragon Age, if thread pages are anything to go by. There are also interviews with EA and BW representatives where Secret IP is mentioned, including recent interview with Aaryn Flynn - and we do know for a fact that David Gaider worked on it as a lead writer before he left BW ...
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Post by Rascoth on Nov 29, 2016 21:13:12 GMT
2. I have yet to see anything but speculation about this Secret IP, and until there is more than one tweeted question (posted over a year ago?) I do not believe in it's existence. But... there's an entire Secret IP Twitter Thread It existed on original forum and exists here now. There's more stuff tweeted about it than currently of Dragon Age, if thread pages are anything to go by. There are also interviews with EA and BW representatives where Secret IP is mentioned, including recent interview with Aaryn Flynn and we do know for a fact that David Gaider worked on it as a lead writer before he left BW ... To add to this: bsn.boards.net/thread/94/secret-ip-twitter-info-thread
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Post by phoray on Nov 29, 2016 22:09:33 GMT
2. I have yet to see anything but speculation about this Secret IP, and until there is more than one tweeted question (posted over a year ago?) I do not believe in it's existence. But... there's an entire Secret IP Twitter Thread It existed on original forum and exists here now. There's more stuff tweeted about it than currently is of Dragon Age, if thread pages are anything to go by. There are also interviews with EA and BW representatives where Secret IP is mentioned, including recent interview with Aaryn Flynn - and we do know for a fact that David Gaider worked on it as a lead writer before he left BW ... huh. I don't Twitter/pinterest/facebook/Tumbler, so I pretty much just read the DA Twitter thread and call it a day. So, the Secret IP is completely unrelated to Dragon Age or Mass Effect. They're wanting to start a whole new world from scratch. The mention of "contemperary" is an immediate turn off for me. The fact that it is being implied as what's slowing down DA4 also makes me glare at it. Someone up thread said it was mentioned first in 2012. That means they were doing stuff with it while working on DAI and DAI still came out in 3 ish years. so there. AND I DO WANT HYPE. I want to squee like the little fan girl that I am with all the other fans and WONDER and TEETH on tidbits of info the way I hear people did leading up to DAI.
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Post by Heimdall on Nov 29, 2016 22:24:15 GMT
I think it's more a matter of "throw us some bone, Bioware!". Even if we're comfortably confident that they'e working on next game, it's unsurprising people who like the franchise crave something new. It doesn't even have to be game info - just something DA-related with which we can have fun with, both with searching for new (story-wise or game-wise) information, speculation, fan creations and so on. We do know there's comic book coming... but it's half a year from now :/ Ah, I see. Some kind of mid-life kicker. That would be great and totally a win-win, since it keeps the fandom happy without hyping DA4 at all. Though, I bet they know what fandoms do. Give 'em an inch and they'll want a mile ... It will take about 0.13 microseconds before someone posts on Reddit, "Y u no work on DA4 2 make dis crap?!" Sad, but true. They do have some DA comics in the works, so there's that. We also know that the cryptic chess piece tweets are Dragon Age related, and it seems way too early to start trolling us about DA4 proper, so some sort of game, whether it be a dragon age chess set, something like that-Fallen-London-thing-I'm-forgetting-the-name-of or a tactics spinoff, seem to exist.
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Ahh... so that's what's going on! Todd Babiak @babiak In other Alberta economic news: Sir aarynflynn presents to the Alberta government about the potential of the video game industry in #yeg.
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