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Post by Lavochkin on Nov 2, 2016 18:49:49 GMT
Ian McCollum of Forgotten Weapons and InRangeTV does a review of Battlefield 1 in terms of it's historical representation.
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Post by PhroX on Nov 2, 2016 18:59:55 GMT
Nader Shah is one of the historical character that most interest me - the shepherd boy who defeated two of the great "Gundpowder Empires" and restored the third before descending into insane cruelty. Have you read Axworthy's book on him ( Sword of Persia)? If not, I highly recommend it.
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Nov 2, 2016 19:12:40 GMT
No, sadly. The insane cruelty part of his reign is what turns me off. Basically not much different than Agha Mohammad Khan Qajar.
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Post by Lady Artifice on Nov 5, 2016 0:52:16 GMT
1. Napoleon wasn’t just about war. He contributed to fashion in many ways too. The reason we have buttons on the sleeves of our jackets is because Napoleon got tired of his soldiers wiping their noses on their sleeves.
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Post by masterwarderz on Nov 5, 2016 0:53:34 GMT
...There need to be more war movies about Korea.
Its all either modern day anti terrorism, world war two or vietnam.
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Post by Lavochkin on Nov 5, 2016 3:26:13 GMT
...There need to be more war movies about Korea. Its all either modern day anti terrorism, world war two or vietnam. You can try checking out the Korean flick "Tae Guk Gi" if you haven't already for some korean war film action. It's been years since i saw it(i rented it from blockbuster when that was still a thing) but i remember it being pretty decent. s19.postimg.org/i4pav6137/taegukgi_hwinalrimyeo_original.jpgThere also needs to be korean war video games too. I'm not sure if any even exist. You'd think a war setting where Soviet and American WW2 and post-war equipment face off against each other(ex. T-34s vs Shermans) would be taken advantage of, but alas...
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Post by Lavochkin on Nov 6, 2016 1:40:06 GMT
Vid from the Great War channel's sister channel "It's History" about the Korean war.
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Nov 6, 2016 7:13:37 GMT
I watched the only movie about Otto von Bismarck yesterday (made in 1940). It was a very exciting movie for me! It doesn't focus on battles but on political conflicts and cunnings of Bismarck (both national and foreign) mainly in 1860s. The battles are low budget but it doesn't really matter. The ending to 1871 was rushed other than that it was a great movie. 8/10 There was only one Jew reference... considering the time of producing this movie!
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Post by Serza on Nov 6, 2016 12:18:05 GMT
"Korea: Forgotten Conflict" is one such Korean War game. The name itself is really suggesting why the hell there's so few interpretations, ironically.
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Post by Lavochkin on Nov 8, 2016 8:02:18 GMT
Great War special on the Italian special assault units, the "Arditi", which were the equivalent of the German sturmtruppen.
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Nov 9, 2016 8:35:01 GMT
Oh wait a minute...
Anyone knows which movie these scenes are from? (the last ones are from a different movie)?
They're not from the 1940 movie.
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Post by Serza on Nov 9, 2016 8:40:33 GMT
I'm pretty sure it's not the Battle of the Bulge (Wacht am Rhein was the codename). I can't watch it right now however.
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Post by Melra on Nov 9, 2016 9:58:10 GMT
Bit of a long video of Battle of Tali-Ihantala.
"The battle was fought between Finnish forces—using war materiel provided by Germany—and Soviet forces. To date, it is the largest battle in the history of the Nordic countries.
The Finns, though outnumbered 3 to 1, inflicted more than three times the number of casualties on the Soviet forces than they received. However, with just 50,000 men to the Soviets 150,000, the Finnish forces took proportionally more casualties."
"According to historians Jowett & Snodgrass, Mcateer, Lunde, and Alanen & Moisala, the Battle of Tali-Ihantala, along with other Finnish victories (in the battles of Vyborg Bay, Vuosalmi, Nietjärvi, and Ilomantsi) achieved during the period, finally convinced the Soviet leadership that conquering Finland was proving difficult, and not worth the cost; the battle was possibly the single most important battle fought in the Continuation War, as it largely determined the final outcome of the war, allowing Finland to conclude the war with relatively favorable terms and continue its existence as an autonomous, democratic, and independent nation. Finnish researchers state that Soviet sources, such as POW interviews, prove that the Soviets intended to advance all the way to Helsinki. There also existed an order from Stavka to advance far beyond the borders of 1940."[/font]
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Post by Melra on Nov 9, 2016 12:23:37 GMT
Another bit of history, still bit related to Finland, but also to US and Germany.
Lauri Törni/Larry Thorne, soldier of three armies.
"Lauri Allan Törni (28 May 1919 – 18 October 1965), later known as Larry Thorne, was a Finnish Army captain who led an infantry company against the Soviet Union in the Finnish Winter and Continuation Wars and moved to the United States after World War II. He fought under three flags: Finnish, German (when he again fought the Soviets in World War II), and American (where he was known as Larry Thorne) when he served in U.S. Army Special Forces in the Vietnam War.
During the early years of World War II, he developed, trained and commanded the Finish ski troops. Under his strict and demanding leadership, the ski troops fought the Russians deep behind enemy lines for extended periods of time. During Finland's wars against the former Soviet Union, he was awarded every medal for bravery that Finland could bestow including the Knight of the Mannerheim Cross, which is the equivalent of the American Congressional Medal of Honor. After Finland fell to the communists, Captain Torni joined the German SS in order to continue fighting the communists. After World War II, Lauri Torni made his way to the United States where he enlisted in the U.S. Army under the Lodge Bill. After completing basic training, Larry Thorne was selected for the budding Special Forces program. He quickly rose through the ranks, and with the assistance of allies within the military, received a commission. In 1964, Larry Thorne served his first 6-month tour of duty in South Vietnam."
"Most of Törni's reputation was based on his successful feats in the Continuation War (1941–44) between the Soviet Union and Finland. In 1943 a famous unit informally named Detachment Törni was created under his command. This was an infantry unit that penetrated deep behind enemy lines and soon enjoyed a reputation on both sides of the front for its combat effectiveness. One of Törni's men was future President of Finland Mauno Koivisto. Koivisto served in a reconnaissance company under the command of Captain Törni together during the Battle of Ilomantsi, which was the final Finnish-Soviet engagement of the Continuation War during July and August 1944. Törni's unit inflicted such heavy casualties on Russian units that the Soviet Army placed a bounty on his head of 3,000,000 Finnish marks. He was decorated with the Mannerheim Cross on 9 July 1944."
The September 1944 Finnish peace treaty with the Soviets required Finland to remove German troops from its territory and resulted in the Lapland War; also, much of the Finnish Army was demobilized along with Törni, leaving him unemployed in November 1944. In January 1945, he was recruited by a pro-German resistance movement in Finland and left for saboteur training in Germany, and to organize resistance in case Finland was occupied by the Soviet Union. The training was prematurely ended in March, but as Törni could not secure transportation to Finland, he joined a German unit to fight Soviet troops near Schwerin, Germany. He surrendered to American and British troops in the last stages of World War II and eventually returned to Finland in June 1945 after escaping a British POW camp in Lübeck, Germany.
The band, Sabaton, also made a song about him.
Larry Thorne died in the Vietnam War, his remains weren't recovered until 2003.
Some Finnish audio, but it is from his funeral in Arlington.
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Nov 9, 2016 21:34:37 GMT
Two 19th century cartoons.
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Post by masterwarderz on Nov 9, 2016 23:26:30 GMT
Another bit of history, still bit related to Finland, but also to US and Germany. Lauri Törni/Larry Thorne, soldier of three armies.
"Lauri Allan Törni (28 May 1919 – 18 October 1965), later known as Larry Thorne, was a Finnish Army captain who led an infantry company against the Soviet Union in the Finnish Winter and Continuation Wars and moved to the United States after World War II. He fought under three flags: Finnish, German (when he again fought the Soviets in World War II), and American (where he was known as Larry Thorne) when he served in U.S. Army Special Forces in the Vietnam War.
During the early years of World War II, he developed, trained and commanded the Finish ski troops. Under his strict and demanding leadership, the ski troops fought the Russians deep behind enemy lines for extended periods of time. During Finland's wars against the former Soviet Union, he was awarded every medal for bravery that Finland could bestow including the Knight of the Mannerheim Cross, which is the equivalent of the American Congressional Medal of Honor. After Finland fell to the communists, Captain Torni joined the German SS in order to continue fighting the communists. After World War II, Lauri Torni made his way to the United States where he enlisted in the U.S. Army under the Lodge Bill. After completing basic training, Larry Thorne was selected for the budding Special Forces program. He quickly rose through the ranks, and with the assistance of allies within the military, received a commission. In 1964, Larry Thorne served his first 6-month tour of duty in South Vietnam."
"Most of Törni's reputation was based on his successful feats in the Continuation War (1941–44) between the Soviet Union and Finland. In 1943 a famous unit informally named Detachment Törni was created under his command. This was an infantry unit that penetrated deep behind enemy lines and soon enjoyed a reputation on both sides of the front for its combat effectiveness. One of Törni's men was future President of Finland Mauno Koivisto. Koivisto served in a reconnaissance company under the command of Captain Törni together during the Battle of Ilomantsi, which was the final Finnish-Soviet engagement of the Continuation War during July and August 1944. Törni's unit inflicted such heavy casualties on Russian units that the Soviet Army placed a bounty on his head of 3,000,000 Finnish marks. He was decorated with the Mannerheim Cross on 9 July 1944."
The September 1944 Finnish peace treaty with the Soviets required Finland to remove German troops from its territory and resulted in the Lapland War; also, much of the Finnish Army was demobilized along with Törni, leaving him unemployed in November 1944. In January 1945, he was recruited by a pro-German resistance movement in Finland and left for saboteur training in Germany, and to organize resistance in case Finland was occupied by the Soviet Union. The training was prematurely ended in March, but as Törni could not secure transportation to Finland, he joined a German unit to fight Soviet troops near Schwerin, Germany. He surrendered to American and British troops in the last stages of World War II and eventually returned to Finland in June 1945 after escaping a British POW camp in Lübeck, Germany.The band, Sabaton, also made a song about him. Larry Thorne died in the Vietnam War, his remains weren't recovered until 2003. Some Finnish audio, but it is from his funeral in Arlington. That dude is a legend in the American military, sort of the Stepfather of modern special forces and all.
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Post by Lavochkin on Nov 10, 2016 20:29:42 GMT
Iron Maiden track about the Battle of Paschendale, with footage of the TV film "All Quiet on the Western Front"
And one they did of the Crimean War.
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Post by Princess Trejo on Nov 10, 2016 21:48:16 GMT
There need to be movies about this man. Maybe not, he's too awesome for a movie. Perhaps a visual poem will do just fine.
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Post by Beerfish on Nov 10, 2016 21:51:58 GMT
...There need to be more war movies about Korea. Its all either modern day anti terrorism, world war two or vietnam. Well Mash was a pretty big educator on that front because of its popularity. It may not have been a real good teacher about the facts of the war but many people would have never even known about it it not for MASH.
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Post by Beerfish on Nov 10, 2016 21:53:43 GMT
There need to be movies about this man. Maybe not, he's too awesome for a movie. Perhaps a visual poem will do just fine. My awesome dude is: David Thompson
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Nov 10, 2016 22:13:19 GMT
So I want to introduce you one of the oldest cities on earth, that is actually very close to my birthplace: Susa It existed as a village since 7000 BC, but in city form for more than 6000 years. Almost as old as Sumer. It was the capital of the state called Susiana (Šušan) of Elam empire. Linguistically and culturally Like Sumer they were different than Semite and Persian. It has a freer society comparing to for example 1300 AD in the same region! They had good knowledge of iron working, pottery and architecture. Since 1400BC till Ashurbanipal razing the city in 7th century BC was the greatest time for Elamite civilization and culture. In Achaemenid period it was rebuilt masterfully and was one of the capitals. Later after Alexander the great it was one of the (2nd) important cities of the Hellenist Seleucid Empire. Marble head representing Seleucid King Antiochus III who was born near Susa around 242 BC. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiochus_III_the_GreatAlso an important city in Pathian and Sassanian periods. Got ruined by Muslims (7th century) and later by Mongols (13th century). Until finally the majority of its population immigrated to a close city in 15th century. Interesting fact: "Susa had a significant Christian population during the first millennium, and was a diocese of the Church of the East between the 5th and 13th centuries, in the metropolitan province of Beth Huzaye (Elam)." <- too far in the east. They likely had a hard time between Muslims. ^ Beautiful bowl. Look at the upper part of it and you can see the older Elamite alphabet which is different than Sumerian and Babylonian alphabets. The tomb of Jewish prophet Daniel is also there:
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Post by Lavochkin on Nov 14, 2016 1:32:07 GMT
Documentary about John Moses Browning, one of the most prolific gun designers in history, whose designs are still widely used today, from the 1911 pistol, M2 machine gun and the .45ACP and .50BMG cartridges.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2016 7:24:04 GMT
...There need to be more war movies about Korea. Its all either modern day anti terrorism, world war two or vietnam. There is a movie *supposedly* going to be developed about the Battle of the Chosin Reservoir, called 17 Days of Winter. I say supposedly because there has been no news on it since it was announced a couple years ago, so it is probably sharing development hell with the Mass Effect movie. A shame, if so. It was the greatest battle against the odds in American military history, yet even in the U.S. very few have heard of it. It had the misfortune of being in a 'forgotten war' rather than the Second World War or the Civil War, both of which attract a great deal more interest from people browsing the military history sections of American book stores. If and when a movie ever gets filmed, I hope the focus is on Fox company, 2nd Battalion, 7th Marines. While the entire 1st Marine division was surrounded and heavily outnumbered by the PLA's 9th Army Group (roughly 20,000 men surrounded by 120,000), Fox company held arguably the most vital piece of ground in the battlespace (a hill overlooking the strategic Toktong pass, which if cut by the Chinese would have prevented the 1st Marine division from breaking out of the encirclement) and against a staggering 40-to-1 odds. For four nights and five days the 234 men of F/2/7 held the hill alone in sub-zero temperatures against repeated human wave assaults by roughly 9,000 Chinese soldiers, until another Marine battalion could break through and reinforce them. By the time it was over they had run out of ammo and were using weapons scavenged from the enemy's slain, were fighting behind barricades made from the frozen corpses of the PLA soldiers that had died in the assaults (the ground was too frozen to dig foxholes or trenches), had come close to being overrun more than once and had gone hand-to-hand, and three quarters of the company had been killed or wounded. They did however hold, and the pass was never cut. It would be easier as well to tell the story of a single company on a single hill than to try and squeeze the entire battle, an event that involved thousands of men spread over many miles of terrain, into a two hour film.
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