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Post by ineedmoreguns on Mar 26, 2017 6:48:04 GMT
If EA wasn't the publisher. It's very obvious Bioware was rushed to release this game before it was ready. Yes, it's a good game, but it is full of bugs, glitches, and balance issues that are NOT common in Bioware games. This game has every sign of a rushed release, and it's a shame. All the main gripes about this game are things that are usually fixed in the last few months before a fully ready release, or fixed by having a beta or extended play testing. It is very obvious that there was almost no play testing of this game, and if there was a multiplayer beta months ago it could have been far better on release. But hey, EA makes money off of hype, not polished products. Bioware is a great dev; the bugs, animation issues, and lag are not on them, they are on the worst publisher in the industry. Thanks EA for bringing down a great framchise
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 26, 2017 6:51:03 GMT
Which alternative publisher did you have in mind?
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 26, 2017 7:13:44 GMT
One with infinite money?
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 26, 2017 7:27:43 GMT
If only Canadians used maple leaves as currency, then that dream could become reality.
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Post by suikoden on Mar 26, 2017 7:29:32 GMT
If only Canadians used maple leaves as currency, then that dream could become reality. If only Americans used bullets as currency, then that dream could become reality. Muh guns. MAGA!
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 26, 2017 7:37:21 GMT
If only Canadians used maple leaves as currency, then that dream could become reality. If only Americans used bullets as currency, then that dream could become reality. Muh guns. MAGA! That's ridiculous. I'd have to trade my wallet for a bandoleer. But then if bullets were currency, the gun trade would suffer because people turned to stabbing so they don't literally throw their money away at people.
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Post by suikoden on Mar 26, 2017 7:39:25 GMT
If only Americans used bullets as currency, then that dream could become reality. Muh guns. MAGA! That's ridiculous. I'd have to trade my wallet for a bandoleer. Lol I just read the name of the first poster in this thread.
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Post by ticktak77 on Mar 26, 2017 7:39:49 GMT
If EA wasn't the publisher. I t's very obvious Bioware was rushed to release this game before it was ready. Excuse me french, but how the frack is it very obvious that Bioware was rushed? Where's your proof? Or the reasons why it's so obvious? (Not being difficult, I'm being genuinely serious here - I'd love a reply).
Surely the simpler explanation is that Bioware knew the release window, years before the game came out, and simply shat the bed? T he way some of you guys act, is as if EA shows up at Bioware one day with 3 weeks notice that they need the game done. SPOILER ALERT - Game Development doesn't work like that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2017 8:18:51 GMT
If EA wasn't the publisher. It's very obvious Bioware was rushed to release this game before it was ready. EA deserves a lot of the criticism it gets, but gamers also tend to get a bit carried away at times. Not everything that goes wrong with a Bioware game is EA's fault. This game had five years in development. Any game that takes that long to develop is not rushed. Even if Bioware was asking for more time and money at the end and EA finally said no more and pulled the trigger, that's on Bioware. Unless information comes out indicating that EA was pushing Bioware towards unreachable goals, the blame for any technical shortcomings lies with Bioware Montreal. They had long enough to create a well-polished game, and in some respects did not deliver. Publishers can't be expected to keep delaying and throwing more money at projects. They're a business after all.
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Post by admiralbonetopickmk2 on Mar 26, 2017 8:27:40 GMT
Even if you did change publishers you'd still have a noob, B-team studio full of z-list hacks, interns and general nobodies making the actual game. 5 years under a different publisher probably wouldnt of made much difference when that is the base your working from, a z-list hack is a z-list hack regardless of the publisher. But generally i agree with you OP. I mean the overriding corporate culture and ethos at EA cant be a good thing on game development. Its bound to effect things in a negative sense one way or another. Likewise being under a big publisher that doesnt really let devs do what they do best wont help matters.
But I always felt like Bioware never needed EA in the first place. They couldve easily of stayed indepedent and published their own games(like Rockstar & Bethesda do), be their own bosses not beholden to a mega-corp etc. They had the talent and the IP to make it viable, but alas $$$$ is hard to turn down, and they got in bed with the proverbial devil, and now its too late. And Mass Effect: Andromeda is ultimately the logical conclusion of all that.
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Post by ticktak77 on Mar 26, 2017 17:33:24 GMT
40 million dollars, and 3.5 year development cycle. Or, about 11.5 million dollars per year. But let's blame EA..
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Post by shechinah on Mar 26, 2017 17:40:14 GMT
But I always felt like Bioware never needed EA in the first place. They couldve easily of stayed indepedent and published their own games(like Rockstar & Bethesda do), be their own bosses not beholden to a mega-corp etc. They had the talent and the IP to make it viable, but alas $$$$ is hard to turn down, and they got in bed with the proverbial devil, To my knowledge, Bioware and Pandemic Studios belonged to Elevation Partners which itself was bought by Electronic Art and was how Bioware came to be the property of EA so no, Bioware could not have stayed independent.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Mar 26, 2017 17:48:50 GMT
If only Canadians used maple leaves as currency, then that dream could become reality. If only Americans used bullets as currency, then that dream could become reality. Muh guns. MAGA! Strip clubs would be a nightmare!
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Post by derrame on Mar 26, 2017 17:49:20 GMT
EA is part of the problem, the bigger part is the open world thing and unnecesarily gigantic maps, and boring repetitive fetch quests
if this game would be like the previous games, it would be a lot better, just imagine more qulity in side quests and less walking or driving,
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Post by Otter on Mar 26, 2017 17:51:12 GMT
If only Americans used bullets as currency, then that dream could become reality. Muh guns. MAGA! Strip clubs would be a nightmare! But imagine how fun it would be to deposit your paycheck.
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Post by SofNascimento on Mar 26, 2017 17:54:42 GMT
They had more than enough time. EA isn't the bad guy here.
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Post by shechinah on Mar 26, 2017 17:56:01 GMT
EA is part of the problem, the bigger part is the open world thing and unnecesarily gigantic maps, and boring repetitive fetch quests if this game would be like the previous games, it would be a lot better, just imagine more qulity in side quests and less walking or driving, I'd have to disagree. I really love the open world in Andromeda so far and think it's the best balance yet. It's like the exploration aspect of the first Mass Effect except fun and with each map feeling unique and different from each other. Heck, it's what I wanted to see continued from the first game. I like the emphasis on exploration and would hate to see it gone in the next installment. I don't want go back to corridors and cramped "worlds" of the old games. It'd feel even more restrictive after experiencing this.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 26, 2017 18:29:51 GMT
Everyone is all saying x is the problem. Meanwhile the game is my crack.
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Post by jpcab on Mar 26, 2017 18:36:04 GMT
i didn t play much yet...the game is fun...but one thing is already certain to me.. Ryder ain t no Shepard and Andromeda will not reach even half of the MET sucess. But hey...i like the game. but my opinion is this one.
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Post by isaidlunch on Mar 26, 2017 18:36:35 GMT
How can you blame EA for a rushed release when Bioware had five years to make it?
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Post by linksocarina on Mar 26, 2017 18:37:35 GMT
But I always felt like Bioware never needed EA in the first place. They couldve easily of stayed indepedent and published their own games(like Rockstar & Bethesda do), be their own bosses not beholden to a mega-corp etc. They had the talent and the IP to make it viable, but alas $$$$ is hard to turn down, and they got in bed with the proverbial devil, To my knowledge, Bioware and Pandemic Studios belonged to Elevation Partners which itself was bought by Electronic Art and was how Bioware came to be the property of EA so no, Bioware could not have stayed independent. Plus people forget why that partnership was made: Both studios were floundering in the mid 2000s.
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Post by vanguardn7 on Mar 26, 2017 18:52:54 GMT
imagine how great it would be if bioware fans actually liked bioware games.
the game has problems literally no one has said otherwise, but the non subjective ones are not things bioware was ever a gold standard for.
and really the EA is the devil therefor everything bad is their fault has gotten old.
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Post by malanek on Mar 26, 2017 19:14:13 GMT
I think they had enough time and I think the game turned out very good. The scope was extremely ambitious and there are some things that could be better, but I think most of the problems come down to design decisions rather than a lack of time. I will say that the longer I play, the less I care about most of the problems.
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Post by lyvean on Mar 26, 2017 19:32:05 GMT
Why infinite? 40m for a AAA game with the fanbase of ME is nothing really. They could have easily doubled that if they wanted.
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 26, 2017 19:55:43 GMT
Why infinite? 40m for a AAA game with the fanbase of ME is nothing really. They could have easily doubled that if they wanted. I don't think that would have been a rational business strategy. ME isn't really all that big or that popular..
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