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Post by neightrix on Mar 28, 2017 17:59:51 GMT
Anyone else on PC with the game on an SSD getting abysmal loading times? Loading times seem to be the same as those with HDD's. Not a problem with my PC, everything else loads like lightning, including the previous ME games. Not sure if this can be fixed or if it's just how it is. Kinda hard to stomach, especially with the 25 second galaxy transitions and landing/departure scenes that can't be skipped.
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Post by havard on Mar 28, 2017 18:02:14 GMT
I'm running mine off of a fairly old SSD and I'm not having this issue. Load screens, except for the occasional infinite one that I have to kill the game for, take no longer than 5-10 seconds.
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Post by mrtijger on Mar 28, 2017 18:09:42 GMT
Run ME:A off a HDD with my system on an SSD and load times are very fast despite running the game at Ultra quality, I dont know why yours would be running slow but perhaps you're running background tasks which interfere with your I/O load?
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Post by griffith82 on Mar 28, 2017 18:14:13 GMT
As someone else said check background tasks. Also you add could be failing, or on the brink of capacity. Other than that failing ram, psi, processor or graphics cards all can cause slowdowns when they are dying.
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Post by AnDromedary on Mar 28, 2017 18:20:38 GMT
I'm running mine off of a fairly old SSD and I'm not having this issue. Load screens, except for the occasional infinite one that I have to kill the game for, take no longer than 5-10 seconds. Same here (except I never had an infinite one). Initial load time when loading a gmae on a big planet (e.g. Eos) from the main menu is about 30 seconds. When loading a game in the same map as before it's about 5-10 sec. Loading times between maps in game are neglegable as they are mostly covered up by videos (on fast travel between forward stations it's 5-10 sec, maybe). All in all, I think it's pretty good.
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Post by spearhead on Mar 28, 2017 18:25:06 GMT
Been having this problem too. Longest loading so far from when I first load up the game the next day takes about 4 minutes. Don't know what's going on. Haven't had this problem with any other game.
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Post by havard on Mar 28, 2017 18:33:46 GMT
Been having this problem too. Longest loading so far from when I first load up the game the next day takes about 4 minutes. Don't know what's going on. Haven't had this problem with any other game. Sounds like it might be regenerating the shader cache or some other background task.
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Post by Laughing_Crow on Mar 28, 2017 18:39:48 GMT
Yes, slow load for this game only. At one point I thought I had corrupted save files. Especially since the saves are quite small 500 - 1500 Kb. (Compare with Fallout 4 up to 8,000 Kb; Skyrim up to 12,000 Kb) If I had to guess, the save file has pointers to other things to be loaded like location and textures, evironments. Or, hey it's EA, some form of DRM.
(New SSD, Optimized weekly and after a major download like a new game.)
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Post by havard on Mar 28, 2017 18:42:34 GMT
Yes, slow load for this game only. At one point I thought I had corrupted save files. Especially since the saves are quite small 500 - 1500 Kb. (Compare with Fallout 4 up to 8,000 Kb; Skyrim up to 12,000 Kb) If I had to guess, the save file has pointers to other things to be loaded like location and textures, evironments. Or, hey it's EA, some form of DRM. (New SSD, Optimized weekly and after a major download like a new game.) What do you mean by optimized?
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Post by Laughing_Crow on Mar 28, 2017 18:52:23 GMT
(New SSD, Optimized weekly and after a major download like a new game.) What do you mean by optimized? Win 10 has an Optimize function (Trim) that I use for non-Intel SSDs. Intel has a Toolbox program for SSDs. Hard drives require DeFrag occasionally, but Trim isn't the same thing.
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Post by Wintermist on Mar 28, 2017 19:06:19 GMT
Nope, it's super fast for me. Granted I got a fairly fast CPU, lots of RAM and the SSD too, so... yeah all good here.
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Post by havard on Mar 28, 2017 19:12:51 GMT
What do you mean by optimized? Win 10 has an Optimize function (Trim) that I use for non-Intel SSDs. Intel has a Toolbox program for SSDs. Hard drives require DeFrag occasionally, but Trim isn't the same thing. Well, that is interesting. Well-aware of what TRIM is, but didn't realize there was an analog baked into the Windows Defragger. Not sure how much of an issue this would really be to be honest.
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Post by scouserant23 on Mar 28, 2017 19:16:08 GMT
My PC is hardly top of the line more mid range but my loading scenes in game are relatively fast on an SDD. If i fast travel on a planet im looking at under 5 seconds. The tram loads instantly after the 2-3 second animation. Loading up a planet for the first time is around 5 seconds in game more like 5-10 from main menu. I was pleasantly surprised for the loading times on MEA they are faster than BF1/DAI which are 2 other games i have on this frostbite engine.
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Post by maokihan on Mar 28, 2017 19:36:34 GMT
No problems at all. Can't narrow it down without more specifics. Your ssd, cpu, and ram can all have an effect on loading times.
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Post by Laughing_Crow on Mar 28, 2017 19:53:02 GMT
Win 10 has an Optimize function (Trim) that I use for non-Intel SSDs. Intel has a Toolbox program for SSDs. Well-aware of what TRIM is, but didn't realize there was an analog baked into the Windows Defragger. Not sure how much of an issue this would really be to be honest. NOTE: For Win 10 onlyClick on the File Icon or This PC Right-click on your SSD drive - select Properties Click on the Tools Tab Click on the Optimize Button -- Optimize and defragment drive That will open another window with all drives listed - both SSDs and Hard Drives
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Post by karaflamestar on Mar 28, 2017 21:02:04 GMT
Make your saves when you're NOT in the Nomad. For whatever reason, the game loads much quicker that way.
When I want to save, I exit the Nomad, then save. Game will usually load much quicker that way.
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Post by acehilator on Mar 28, 2017 21:07:41 GMT
No problems at all, and I am running MEA from an old 2nd gen SSD (350MB/s or something). Super fast. Had the stuck at loading screen bug once in 88 hours.
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Post by hathur on Mar 28, 2017 21:29:55 GMT
Been having this problem too. Longest loading so far from when I first load up the game the next day takes about 4 minutes. Don't know what's going on. Haven't had this problem with any other game. You saved your game while you were in the nomad I bet... this will always cause load times to go from 5-20 seconds to 3+ minutes. Never save in the nomad.. ever... and if you save your game near the nomad on foot, make sure the doors are closed .. if the nomad doors are open it will save as if you were inside the nomad and take many minutes... just... move far away from the nomad before saving.
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Post by mastert on Mar 28, 2017 21:35:02 GMT
Literally everyone says its fast for them but maybe it depends what you call fast.
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Post by spearhead on Mar 29, 2017 10:32:08 GMT
Been having this problem too. Longest loading so far from when I first load up the game the next day takes about 4 minutes. Don't know what's going on. Haven't had this problem with any other game. You saved your game while you were in the nomad I bet... this will always cause load times to go from 5-20 seconds to 3+ minutes. Never save in the nomad.. ever... and if you save your game near the nomad on foot, make sure the doors are closed .. if the nomad doors are open it will save as if you were inside the nomad and take many minutes... just... move far away from the nomad before saving. Wow, my hero. This seems to have fixed my issue.
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Post by degs29 on Mar 29, 2017 12:06:51 GMT
Been having this problem too. Longest loading so far from when I first load up the game the next day takes about 4 minutes. Don't know what's going on. Haven't had this problem with any other game. I think there's a bug that causes very long loading sometimes, but it's not always. I can load up the game fresh in about 20 - 25 seconds normally, but sometimes it literally takes 3 minutes. Even when I've played the game and simply die, loading has the chance of going that long. Haven't experienced it fast traveling though.
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Post by warbaby2 on Mar 29, 2017 12:10:39 GMT
Aside from the occasional infinite loading on auto saves, I thought the load times have been quite quick... sure, all those transition scenes eat up time.
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Post by neocodex and 23 others on Mar 29, 2017 12:12:35 GMT
Anyone else on PC with the game on an SSD getting abysmal loading times? Loading times seem to be the same as those with HDD's. Not a problem with my PC, everything else loads like lightning, including the previous ME games. Not sure if this can be fixed or if it's just how it is. Kinda hard to stomach, especially with the 25 second galaxy transitions and landing/departure scenes that can't be skipped. Check this out: They tested modern games loading times while looking at actual drive read speeds. Turns out, the drives are not the bottleneck. During loading times, the data is being read on average of 20 mb/s with peaks at 100 mb/s, which is 5-20% of what standard SATA SSDs can do. And they had 0% improvement with NVME over classical SATA drives. So... yeah. Yeah. And I can testify myself that I noticed no improvement in loading times when I transfered my copy of DAI and MEA from hybrid SSHD to SSD. Don't know about regular HDDs but probably not much difference either if it never goes past 100 mb/s. You can test it yourself. And yes, I know there are many other benefits with SSDs like shorter access times and so on, but we're talking loading times here and those are the same, unless you would have for example an extreme case of fragmented and old HDD. But if you're saying your MEA loadings are "abysmal" it still hits me as bit of an odd thing, as load times are quite fast for me compared to DA:I. About 3 times as fast as DA:I I would dare to bet. But the downside is that a lot of content is being streamed in after, specially the first 10 seconds everything is stuttering like hell (and never ends later, in smaller doses). It did load for much longer when I first started the game and the MP lobby, I would guess it was unpacking the files at that time, but now it's quite snappy. Now if only the game ran that snappy as well.
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Post by mastert on Mar 29, 2017 12:21:30 GMT
Anyone else on PC with the game on an SSD getting abysmal loading times? Loading times seem to be the same as those with HDD's. Not a problem with my PC, everything else loads like lightning, including the previous ME games. Not sure if this can be fixed or if it's just how it is. Kinda hard to stomach, especially with the 25 second galaxy transitions and landing/departure scenes that can't be skipped. Check this out: They tested modern games loading times while looking at actual drive read speeds. Turns out, the drives are not the bottleneck. During loading times, the data is being read on average of 20 mb/s with peaks at 100 mb/s, which is 5-20% of what standard SATA SSDs can do. And they had 0% improvement with NVME over classical SATA drives. So... yeah. Yeah. And I can testify myself that I noticed no improvement in loading times when I transfered my copy of DAI and MEA from hybrid SSHD to SSD. Don't know about regular HDDs but probably not much difference either if it never goes past 100 mb/s. You can test it yourself. And yes, I know there are many other benefits with SSDs like shorter access times and so on, but we're talking loading times here and those are the same, unless you would have for example an extreme case of fragmented and old HDD. But if you're saying your MEA loadings are "abysmal" it still hits me as bit of an odd thing, as load times are quite fast for me compared to DA:I. About 3 times as fast as DA:I I would dare to bet. But the downside is that a lot of content is being streamed in after, specially the first 10 seconds everything is stuttering like hell (and never ends later, in smaller doses). It did load for much longer when I first started the game and the MP lobby, I would guess it was unpacking the files at that time, but now it's quite snappy. Now if only the game ran that snappy as well. You should check out the massive difference in Gta V for example
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Post by neocodex and 23 others on Mar 29, 2017 12:23:00 GMT
You should check out the massive difference in Gta V for example That's a good point. I really don't know of other games that would significantly benefit from SSDs or even NVME. Do you have any links to some tests anywhere close?
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