Liam's loyalty mission reaction (spoilers)

To be fair, the Kett ship was exploding because of the battle.

There was no opportunity to salvage it.

It even blows up when you evacuate it.

I liked Liam just fine at the beginning of the game, but then he does the armor switch with Jaal, and from there things get ridiculous.

He speaks like he is dumb or something, without even trying to make sentences proper, way worse than Jacob ever did. Then he keeps screwing around in Aya, gives sensitive information to "make friends", it just feels like an idealist dumb teenager in the body of a young adult.

Maybe the only redeeming point about him was the movie night.

This is linked? What the heck is that.

Actually, "what the heck was that?" sums up my reaction to Liam's LM pretty well. It's IMO by far the worst writing of the game so far. Liam pissed me off for a while at this point. Every stupid thing he does without asking me or telling me is a disaster. I did not want to scan that market place on Aya but I can't tell him to leave the Angara alone and if I don't do it, the quests never finishes, so I did it and the outcaome was predictable. At this point I already just wanted him to shut up and stand in the corner.

The big screw up that then leads to the actual mission should have been the last straw but I have no option but just either crack jokes or be mildly upset the entire time.
And Liam is an asshole, sorry.
Ryder: "This plan is really bad and it worked out just as badly, Liam."
Liam: "Not as bad as our first day in Andromeda though, haha. "

I was just sitting there with my mouth open and thought "yea, the first day in Andromeda my father died you f*cking bastard." But yea, Ryder takes that one in stride I guess.
I just wanted to slap this guy left and right but I have to - as the codex says later - "generally agree with him on the risks he takes". Last time I checked, Mass Effect was an RPG, this however is a cheesy action adventure.
By the way, writing is consistently bad all throughout. E.g. the humans in the prison cell are surprised that Hyperion has arrived in the Nexus, despite the fact that they share a cell with an Angara who clearly had contact with Liam, who arrived on Hyperion. You'd think those rather big news would have spilled at some point. ... but I digress.

Anyway, After the mission, I  REALLY wanted to loose my (Ryder's) temper. I wanted to throw Liam off the ship, tell him that he is a liability I cannot afford and that he should go back to the Nexus and go back in Stasis for all I care or go to one of the outposts and tell everyone there that he was in Crisis Response(tm) in every second sentence. Instead, I get to say "Lesson learned? Never again?" in a meek tone (and that was the only alternative to the "No worries" option).
Now from the OP, I gather that maybe you can be harsher if you hold the Angara but why is that? I am not going to take Liam's screw-ups out on someone who didn't really do anything wrong.

What else? Oh yes, the Star Wars rip-off was an embarrassing attempt.

Only good thing I can say about this mission is that the idea with the gravity shift was really neat. Great gameplay there. But that seems to be the general thing with Andromeda, you can get some good gameplay and levels out of it if you just ignore the story sometimes.

Sorry for the rant, had to get this off my chest.

I thought this mission was a little bit too funny

That's rubbish. Just because I am not taking it out on the angara doesn't mean I don't want to take it easy on Liam.
Well, role playing in dialogue is definitely onw of ME:A's strong suits. that much is clear.

Exactly.  You'd think that someone who used to be a Cop and a Crisis Response guy would be a bit more ... professional?  Humor is good.  Taking a stand on the personal business of your fellow shipmates as if you are some priest from the church ... not cool with that.  There's having a conversation or even a debate about morals and then there's just being an Emo downer.

I just played this mission and I literally laughed out loud throughout most of it! I really liked like the light-hearted/Citadel DLC feel to it. I get that not all the missions have to be heavy handed. I enjoyed it so much I may actually create a specific save point so I can play it again with different squadmates. And I appreciated the Star Wars reference

However, I will say that it raised character issues in which I wish I would have a more middle ground response, not just busting balls or joking about it. There are some previous people who posted who rightfully raise a valid concern about Liam being an asshole (or just stupid and inconsiderate). AKA, joking about the day Ryder's dad died. That was in poor taste (or just lazy) who's fault lies with the writers. Now, if Liam would have realized AFTER he said that and apologized I would have actually gone with the casual or emotional response. Instead, I wanted to punch him in the face.

This does bring up an issue. Crew complement. Being the Tempest is such a small ship, you can only have so many on the crew. So there are what six slots. For better role playing I think it would have been much better to introduce us to say 9 or 10 main characters and let Ryder, the captain of the Tempest, decide which ones he wants on his crew.

This would allow me to ditch crew members I don't like. This of course would also give us incentive to play the game through more then once so we could encounter content not covered with your first crew.

Detained his contact and chewed him out (as much as the game let me). I'm actually somewhat surprised we could do this, since there were so many other times I wanted to take a harder line but couldn't in the game.

The more the game went on the less I started to like Liam, which disappointed me. His loyalty mission was definitely the low point. Giving away Nexus data without authorization, yeah, he's lucky he isn't in the brig after that.

His naivety is sometimes interesting and other times annoying. On some level his character puzzles me. He's a cop who basically thinks everyone should just get hold hands and get along. I've never come across one who had that attitude, if anything they take a much more jaded view of people since they typically see people at their worst.

At one point in the game I think he says something along the lines of why do each species have one ark and one home world, that's not how it should be done. That level of obliviousness made me scratch my head and ask why is this guy on the pathfinder squad again?

I still use him and Cora the most since we are the human pathfinder team.

No reaction. Never did

Apparently, only Vetra, Drack and Peebee react.

Bonus on how the console get handled diferently if choose how Ryder will respond to Liam's anger when things don't go right (Turning off the console, shooting the console, not-shooting it)


"I'm sad I can't punch both of you"
 -Vetra

It really does feel like two different people wrote him, one for the field banter and one for everything else, and they didn't check for consistency.